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Does Europe’s Holocaust Guilt Benefit the Islamists?

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2honest:
In my eyes it is absolutely true that muslim fundamentalists exploit the Holocaust for their purposes. We see that as soon as you criticize Islam or for example oppose new mosques being built they start crying: Oh this is discrimination, you treat us like the Jews in the Holocaust, we demand freedom of religion and so on. This is going on worldwide.
But not only islamists do that.

As mad as it is the Holocaust is even used against Israel. Remember the cartoons in western media after the "massacre" in Jenin in 2002? Newspapers directly compared Jenin to the ghettos in Warschau. The implication was that Jenin was as bad as what the Nazis did to the Jews in Warschau/Poland. Unbelievable nonsense!

But lets take a look at Germany. Everybody knows that Germany has a special burden and a special responsibility because of what happend in the past. This is why muslim leaders know they can make rising demands in Germany. Everytime someone opposes them you hear: Oh thats racism. And it works because in Germany you are not allowed to say something against aliens and defend our own culture because very quickly someone (often leftwing politicians) will blame you of being a neo-nazi.

In the last couple of weeks there were some news about crimes from youths of Turkish/Arab origin in the media. Slowly it's getting better but we still have a long way to go until you can say the truth without being labeled a racist.

mord:
But without this guilt by Germany it could become normal and stop giving into moslems

2honest:

--- Quote from: mord on January 30, 2008, 12:33:23 PM ---But without this guilt by Germany it could become normal and stop giving into moslems

--- End quote ---
Depends on what you understand by normal, but at least we could be a little more confident.
But anyway I would prefer if Europe had more confidence because it's sick to sit back and watch how Europe gets islamized.

But in regard to Germany I think its even more. Because of the holocaust the left in Germany hates their own culture and their own country. They hate it so much that they admire Islam and some would even be glad if Islam and sharia law took over. Then they still would say: Look how tolerant we are. But in reality its nothing less than hate towards their own German identity.
As a German you can not say I'm proud to be German. I dont demand that. But why dont we start with I like my country, or at least with There are aspects of my country that I may like. How about that? Is that a crime?

And I want to mention that I like my country does not mean I like everthing Germany did in the past, certainly not!
But in my eyes it should be possible to realise that Germans did unforgivable things without at the same time sink into complete self-hatred and give Germany to Islamic law.   

Whats your view on that?

mord:
I agree 100% a country is like a person too much guilt can cause harm to a country or a person.Yes it's o.k. to remember but if my Grandfather or Great Grandfather did something bad [the did'nt do anything bad] how can i if i'm a good person be to blame.

Ambiorix:
¿¿ Does anyone believe that the Holocaust is being misused as a tool to stab the Jews in the back??

1/ to link them with the gays that went to the death-camps. (Jews perceived as victims , just as (bad as ) gays, ...)
2/ to link them with muslims, that need to be destroyed here (but <<the Jews and their lobby want to help the muslims to destabilise the Western World>>
3/ to cultivate the idea of the <<good (but dead) eternal victim-Jew, the poor ...>>
and to link this with the bad and nazi Zionists of today that kill <<good (but dead) eternal victim-Palis>>,... just as Jews in the camps,...
4/ to revive the conspiracy-lies, the so-called protocols of Zion, the <<grip on the media>> and just many others,...
5/ by 1,2,3,4 to create new anti-semitism, in order to create a hostile atmosphere everywhere against Jews.

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