Proof: Jews were very loyal to the German state

[Ulli]

I have heard before a short time a ask-JTF radioshow, where Chaim mentioned, that the Jews were in general very loyal citizens of Germany. They do all in their power to be good Germans.

He is right.

I have found in the book "The Jews of Oldenburg" [ISBN: 387358056X], written by Rabbi Leo Trepp a picture:



The translation of the text is:

Abb. 13: Decoration table, prayer for the terretorial lord from the years between 1831-1844, German and Hebrew, former synagog in Oevelgoenne, now museum Oldenburg.

[mord]

Yes Golden Pheasent this is very interesting Jews who served in German Army ww1                 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=17642&pid=171042&st=0&

[Ambiorix]

indeed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Haber

[mord]

Yes this is all very interesting

[takebackourtemple]

   I can believe that a select few Jews who thought they were both Jewish and German were loyal to the German state at that time. I do however feel that Jews who are not loyal to Hashem lack the ability to be loyal to anything or anyone. A Jew who converts to another religion will not be loyal to that religion. Many who were ashamed of being Jewish may have claimed to be loyal to Germany, but in actuality they were not.

[Ambiorix]

Haber received the iron cross for inventing the "yperite"
Most of his family died in gas chambers.

[mord]

   I can believe that a select few Jews who thought they were both Jewish and German were loyal to the German state at that time. I do however feel that Jews who are not loyal to Hashem lack the ability to be loyal to anything or anyone. A Jew who converts to another religion will not be loyal to that religion. Many who were ashamed of being Jewish may have claimed to be loyal to Germany, but in actuality they were not.

It was 1,000,000 most remained Jewish a few converted

[takebackourtemple]

   I can believe that a select few Jews who thought they were both Jewish and German were loyal to the German state at that time. I do however feel that Jews who are not loyal to Hashem lack the ability to be loyal to anything or anyone. A Jew who converts to another religion will not be loyal to that religion. Many who were ashamed of being Jewish may have claimed to be loyal to Germany, but in actuality they were not.

It was 1,000,000 most remained Jewish a few converted

   Out of those one remained Jewish, how many really did in spirit? I know that unlike in the US, most Jews did not convert to alternate forms of Judaism such as worshiping MLK YS"Z. All I know, is that we had a lack of Jews who had Kahanist ideals to prevent the whole thing from happening in the first place.

[mord]

   I can believe that a select few Jews who thought they were both Jewish and German were loyal to the German state at that time. I do however feel that Jews who are not loyal to Hashem lack the ability to be loyal to anything or anyone. A Jew who converts to another religion will not be loyal to that religion. Many who were ashamed of being Jewish may have claimed to be loyal to Germany, but in actuality they were not.

It was 1,000,000 most remained Jewish a few converted

   Out of those one remained Jewish, how many really did in spirit? I know that unlike in the US, most Jews did not convert to alternate forms of Judaism such as worshiping MLK YS"Z. All I know, is that we had a lack of Jews who had Kahanist ideals to prevent the whole thing from happening in the first place.

thats true but i don'nt Jews who pray to martin king

[takebackourtemple]

thats true but i don'nt Jews who pray to martin king

   I recently walked out of services from one of those fake rabbis. I went to one of those fake synagogues because I was with a Jewish group and it was after(not before) shabbat dinner. I'm not religious and don't believe you have to be orthodox to be a good Jew, but no matter what you are, the laws of the torah still apply. Especially in services themselves. I should have walked out as soon as they started using microphones and should have realized that I was being disrespectful to Hashem in order to be respectful to the congregation but the thought just didn't dawn on me at that time. I left as soon as the services changed from L'Chad Dodee to MLK YS"Z. They don't technically pray to him, but still worship him as an idol. In the US, this problem is rampant. Sadly enough, it also exists in Eretz Yisrael. On one of the JTF shows Chaim mentioned a MLK YS"Z forest in Israel. Here is something even more recent.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/852791.html