"Life after white people "

[Just Erica]

"Malcom was a reformed racist. He changed his views after his visit to Mecca"-Just Erica-aka Imerica

Did you think I was going to deny I said that? Here...let me help you out so that you won't have to repeat it...

"Malcom was a reformed racist. He changed his views after his visit to Mecca"
And for good measure, just so everyone gets the picture...

"Malcom was a reformed racist. He changed his views after his visit to Mecca"

Well, I really appreciate , that Islam stopped Malcolm X from being a racist.
Thanks, allah.

That didn't make sense. They prevented him from changing his views.

[genteelgentile]

Where is that picture of what happens when blacks take over?  It shows a beautiful city and then a gang of homies hanging out, then a shanty town.

[Just Erica]

Where is that picture of what happens when blacks take over?  It shows a beautiful city and then a gang of homies hanging out, then a shanty town.

Check Ambionix's imagination.. it should be there somewhere.

I think you guys are worried for nothing. Blacks make up 17% of America's population. Even the evil blacks won't be able to take over with that small number. You see how much of an effect the KKK had on America. Not everyone in our country is a racist, good for nothing, ignoramus. I think that those who represent the good in the black community will help out a lot. I dont' think that evil blacks have the power to take over anything.

[genteelgentile]

I hope you are right.  But look at the thug culture in our society.  It is very prevalent.

[fjack]

He hated whitey till the day he was smoked. If you think anyone would believe that dope pusher, rump wrangler, and pimp you are nuts. After the nation of urine dumped him he knew he needed 'friends' that is why he said he no longer hated whites. He figured that we were stupid enough to believe him and that the liberals would take him in and give him some kind of phoney job teaching in a college. I loved the way his 'widow' crawled to screwy louie, the guy who may have given the order to rid us of malcom excrement, to not press charges against her screwball nutso slut daughter. Well she got hers when the little darling malcolm jr. played 'light my fire' and her fat butt.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I am not a Muslim but as I've also said before, I know Muslims who have never tried to convert me and who have been respectful to me. I can't say that Muslims as a whole are evil. I can say that there is indeed evil in every race.

As for Malcom X's change of heart, I think his views changed for ALL white people. He loved whites who were muslims but he also had respect for EVERY white person until the day his own people (The Nation of Islam) killed him. They knew that if he'd kept on with that line of thinking and he'd lived past that fateful day, he'd have denounced Islam or at least Elijah Muhammad in public. He didn't get a chance to prove himself.

Sorry Erica, but I NEVER said all Muslims were evil.  That is your own invention.  I said ISLAM is evil.  And TRUE ISLAMIC followers (probably about 15% of Muslims by estimates I've heard) are therefore evil. 

"As for Malcom X's change of heart, I think his views changed for ALL white people"
You think?  I don't really care nor did I ask what "you think."  I asked for what is true.  Do you have anything to back this up?  I THINK that my observation stands.  That a fanatical Islamist Muslim like Malcolm X would only give a 'free pass' to a white person that practices Islam.

[Just Erica]

I am not a Muslim but as I've also said before, I know Muslims who have never tried to convert me and who have been respectful to me. I can't say that Muslims as a whole are evil. I can say that there is indeed evil in every race.

As for Malcom X's change of heart, I think his views changed for ALL white people. He loved whites who were muslims but he also had respect for EVERY white person until the day his own people (The Nation of Islam) killed him. They knew that if he'd kept on with that line of thinking and he'd lived past that fateful day, he'd have denounced Islam or at least Elijah Muhammad in public. He didn't get a chance to prove himself.

Sorry Erica, but I NEVER said all Muslims were evil.  That is your own invention.  I said ISLAM is evil.  And TRUE ISLAMIC followers (probably about 15% of Muslims by estimates I've heard) are therefore evil. 

"As for Malcom X's change of heart, I think his views changed for ALL white people"
You think?  I don't really care nor did I ask what "you think."  I asked for what is true.  Do you have anything to back this up?  I THINK that my observation stands.  That a fanatical Islamist Muslim like Malcolm X would only give a 'free pass' to a white person that practices Islam.

Some of you here respond to comments or situations as if you were there when 'things happened'. I said "I THINK" because I don't know for sure. I can only go by what I  read and what I saw played out on the movie screen. I wouldn't come here saying "I know for a FACT...." because there are things in history that one would have to be there to actually KNOW about. We're ALL working on speculation. If you don't agree with me, look at some of the JTF'ers ' responses that say "ONLY 5% of blacks in America are good"...when they only know of the blacks they've come in contact with. No statistic ever said that...it was an assumption made by people with opinions. I'm assuming that since not all whites are evil that there are many good whites in America (and abroad.)

[Boeregeneraal]

Some of you here respond to comments or situations as if you were there when 'things happened'

here we go again...

[Just Erica]

Some of you here respond to comments or situations as if you were there when 'things happened'

here we go again...

Well you do, Boer. ASSUMING that the U.S. is going to turn 'black'. ASSUMING that BLACKS will take over the country. ASSUMING you know anything about the black community (except for the bad parts). Out of all of these assumptions, when have you ever come in here with concrete proof? A lot of you say I'm racist, no matter how many times I post that I dont' hate all white people. Assuming that my grandchildren will grow up killing white people. Aren't you tired of going around in circles?

[Boeregeneraal]

 

ASSUMING that the U.S. is going to turn 'black'. ASSUMING that BLACKS will take over the country. ASSUMING you know anything about the black community

lol...when did I say the US was going to be over run? (eventhough iy's 100% FACT).

Oh and...i lived all my life with blacks...

 

[newman]

With no whites there'd be no government departments for AA jobs, no business for entry level work and no taxes raised to pay for welfare and social security.

Blacks wouldn't starve, though. They'd start eating each other like they do in africa.

[fjack]

Your are 100 percent right Newman, they would start eating eachother, but they could not use the McDonald's special sauce, that is a white man's secret.

[Boeregeneraal]

haha yes!

White man has been the best thing to have happened to blacks, no doubt!

[Ambiorix]

I agree 100% with Newman and Boeregeneraal.
Blacks will do pogroms on whites, once they are the majority.
Right now they kill much more whites, than whites kill blacks.

[JTFFan]

Malcolm excrement's book was written by alex haley who was sued for his plagarism of the book 'roots'. I am not falling for the garbage that he came back from semecca luvin' dat white menz. Give me a break!!! He wanted to destroy white civilization, end of story. His 'advisor' was the crack pot john henrick clark, google him and see how much he loved whites, especially Jews. As for as the others you mentioned, mlk was a useless meat eater, jfk was a drunk, sex addict and was high on meth most of the time and his brother boobie was a little self serving troll that may have killed marilyn monroe.

You must be really comfortable using your brand of ebonics. Everytime I type something in proper English,you turn it into improper language.

And I read up on the Alex Haley hoax. They found 100 words that he plaigarized from "The African"...he paid for that huge crime in money... $650,000 .
I have to ask though, since the characters weren't exactly false (the time line was off, because the births were inaccurate), did it take away from the story of slavery from Africa to America? I'm  more concerned about what slavery was like than of the characters.

And you hate on dead people with ferocity, don't you?

And you are defending all evil blacks with even more ferocity aren't you?
Malcolm X was a racist !

Malcom was a reformed racist. He changed his views after his visit to Mecca. Unfortunately you couldn't love whites and serve in the Nation of Islam at the same time so his own people killed him. I defend those who are good. Not those who are evil.

This whole discussion is ridiculous.  I don't know why people on this forum hate blacks.  It is fine to hate sick individuals like Malcolm x and to hate 'black culture' (presumably this includes propensity of crime that is common to them in black parts of cities) like some on this board do, but I think people are getting carried away and just hating black people. This is wrong.  But I want to point out something you said here.  You admitted that Malcolm X once thought white people were evil, but then he saw white, blue eyed people praying to the Islamic moon-G-d allah.  So at that point he realized not all whites are evil.  But he was still a fervent believer in Islam, and like all true Islamics, a person of ANY color that is NOT Muslim, is evil infidel.  He only gave the white people who followed Islam a free pass.  Or at least that's what it sounds like in your description.  Correct?

I am not a Muslim but as I've also said before, I know Muslims who have never tried to convert me and who have been respectful to me. I can't say that Muslims as a whole are evil. I can say that there is indeed evil in every race.

As for Malcom X's change of heart, I think his views changed for ALL white people. He loved whites who were muslims but he also had respect for EVERY white person until the day his own people (The Nation of Islam) killed him. They knew that if he'd kept on with that line of thinking and he'd lived past that fateful day, he'd have denounced Islam or at least Elijah Muhammad in public. He didn't get a chance to prove himself.

You're not a muSSlim than what are you, you definitely sound like you're not a righteous Kahanist Gentile if you're supporting unrighteous nazi muSSlims like BaraKKK Obama.

[Just Erica]

Malcolm excrement's book was written by alex haley who was sued for his plagarism of the book 'roots'. I am not falling for the garbage that he came back from semecca luvin' dat white menz. Give me a break!!! He wanted to destroy white civilization, end of story. His 'advisor' was the crack pot john henrick clark, google him and see how much he loved whites, especially Jews. As for as the others you mentioned, mlk was a useless meat eater, jfk was a drunk, sex addict and was high on meth most of the time and his brother boobie was a little self serving troll that may have killed marilyn monroe.

You must be really comfortable using your brand of ebonics. Everytime I type something in proper English,you turn it into improper language.

And I read up on the Alex Haley hoax. They found 100 words that he plaigarized from "The African"...he paid for that huge crime in money... $650,000 .
I have to ask though, since the characters weren't exactly false (the time line was off, because the births were inaccurate), did it take away from the story of slavery from Africa to America? I'm  more concerned about what slavery was like than of the characters.

And you hate on dead people with ferocity, don't you?

And you are defending all evil blacks with even more ferocity aren't you?
Malcolm X was a racist !

Malcom was a reformed racist. He changed his views after his visit to Mecca. Unfortunately you couldn't love whites and serve in the Nation of Islam at the same time so his own people killed him. I defend those who are good. Not those who are evil.

This whole discussion is ridiculous.  I don't know why people on this forum hate blacks.  It is fine to hate sick individuals like Malcolm x and to hate 'black culture' (presumably this includes propensity of crime that is common to them in black parts of cities) like some on this board do, but I think people are getting carried away and just hating black people. This is wrong.  But I want to point out something you said here.  You admitted that Malcolm X once thought white people were evil, but then he saw white, blue eyed people praying to the Islamic moon-G-d allah.  So at that point he realized not all whites are evil.  But he was still a fervent believer in Islam, and like all true Islamics, a person of ANY color that is NOT Muslim, is evil infidel.  He only gave the white people who followed Islam a free pass.  Or at least that's what it sounds like in your description.  Correct?

I am not a Muslim but as I've also said before, I know Muslims who have never tried to convert me and who have been respectful to me. I can't say that Muslims as a whole are evil. I can say that there is indeed evil in every race.

As for Malcom X's change of heart, I think his views changed for ALL white people. He loved whites who were muslims but he also had respect for EVERY white person until the day his own people (The Nation of Islam) killed him. They knew that if he'd kept on with that line of thinking and he'd lived past that fateful day, he'd have denounced Islam or at least Elijah Muhammad in public. He didn't get a chance to prove himself.

You're not a muSSlim than what are you, you definitely sound like you're not a righteous Kahanist Gentile if you're supporting unrighteous nazi muSSlims like BaraKKK Obama.

You have NO proof that he's neither Muslim or a Nazi. NONE. Your hatred for him speaks for itself and it has NOTHING to do with his religious affiliations..it's everything to do with his color.

No, I'm NOT a Muslim. I'm a Christian. I never claimed to be a Kahnist Gentile. And about who I'm supporting for President...when did I come into a thread where you'd mentioned who you were voting for and then tell you to change your mind or I'll call you a racist? Never. You vote for who you want, I'll vote for who I want. If I give my right to vote over to you, it's no longer mine..it's yours.

[Just Erica]

If you're a true die hard supporter of Barack Hussein Obama, who spent his formative years in Muslim Nazi Indonesia where he was exposed to Islam at a "Moderate" Moslem School then you've already voted for Satan's "agent of change".

So far as Obama's color is concerned I'm sure we all have two words for you: ALAN KEYES

You guys talk about Obama's color all of the time even while you're bashing him on going to a Muslim school when he was a CHILD. Formative years would translate into his teen years and early adulthood. You're saying that if a child is born Muslim that that's all they'll ever be. As if when they become adults they will never decide to one day follow their own train of thought on religion in their lives. Some Christians convert to Judaism. Some Muslims convert to Christianity...and I'm sure that there are muslims who convert to Judaism also.

And (lol) on that dramatic "Satan's "agent in charge" statement. Where did you get that?

As for Alan Keyes, if he didn't agree with your stance on certain issues and was running for president, you'd treat him just you treat Obama.

[genteelgentile]

 I WISH we had a righteous black candidate to support.  I really do.  I am just as sick of the whitebread plastic rich etc. as many others here are.  Obama will use his "blackness" to get whatever political gains he can.

[genteelgentile]

I think you put more thought into what I said than I did... I suppose I was thinking of people like the Kennedys.  Also, I just wish race wasn't an issue.  Liberals bring it up, not us.

[fjack]

Obama is not black, he is a mulatto. His white tramp mammie would lay down with anykind of biological oddity that would throw down two dollars on a filthy mattress. His pappie was an african who was a drunken women beater. He really proved he was black by deserting his 'wife' and the half breed he make. Crack man obama has said that when he becomes the 'chief gun bearer' he will make the government look more like the real America. What he is trying to say is that he will cleanse the federal agencies of white people. I love when you see all the white liberal air-head college dust mites rally around him and participate in their own demise. The liberal college enviorment sure did a great job of screwing their minds up. Have you noticed how obamination has gotten a free ride from the press? How was it that he was able to buy a house for 1.65 million on his civil service salary? What about the allegations made by Larry Stillman (google him and watch the video)? Why doesn't the press talk about the immature and complaining expressed by his affrimative action wife's thesis that was just released? It is written on a fourth or fifth grade level and it full of all the 'blame whitey cliches'. People talk about his great educational achievements, please let us be real here. You know, I know and the press know that he is an affrimative action baby pure and simple, end of story, just the facts. Once this marion barry wanna be takes over the white house, you will see a flood of turd worlders storm the gates and the doors of the treasury vault fly open to give away white taxpayers money to those who refuse to work, to pay for 'reparations', head start, food stamps, aid to dependent children, wich, SSI for low IQ non whites, free breakfeast, lunch and dinner for children 'at risk', free day care for single and working hos, free medical insurance for those that will not get off the butsy to work for a living, free college for those darkies that are unable to graduate, school busing of blacks and hispanics to destroy the white schools in white areas, more affrimative action, Jesse Jackson as secretary of state, al sharpie sharpton as the head of the treasury dept., his nutty preacher as the chaplin of the senate, and screwie louie farrafart as head of the US commission on civil rights. Don't forget that with all the help and money thrown to educate these uneducatible hordes he will spend more money on studies to find out why jamal, la quiesha, chico, said, and shaqueta still can't read or add a simple column of numbers.

[Just Erica]

Obama is not black, he is a mulatto. His white tramp mammie would lay down with anykind of biological oddity that would throw down two dollars on a filthy mattress. His pappie was an african who was a drunken women beater. He really proved he was black by deserting his 'wife' and the half breed he make. Crack man obama has said that when he becomes the 'chief gun bearer' he will make the government look more like the real America. What he is trying to say is that he will cleanse the federal agencies of white people. I love when you see all the white liberal air-head college dust mites rally around him and participate in their own demise. The liberal college enviorment sure did a great job of screwing their minds up. Have you noticed how obamination has gotten a free ride from the press? How was it that he was able to buy a house for 1.65 million on his civil service salary?

Fjack, Of COURSE Obama is black. And contrary to what others believe he's also African American. He was born in Hawaii, an OFFICIAL AMERICAN STATE and his father was African. HE's also of caucasian descent because his mom was white. Are you even familiar with the Grandfather Clause? An 8th of black blood (decendents) makes you black. If you LOOK black, then you are black. Trust me, a racist white man won't look at Obama and see the 'white' in him then leave him alone.

Obama's father and mother divorced each other after he left..yes. Does that make him more black because he deserted his family? I think you need to turn on Maury Povich and Jerry Springer (even some of the court shows) to view all of the white dead-beat dads who display their ignorance on tv...right along-side the dead-beat dads who are black.

And for you to take Obama's words and interpret them to mean the worse thing is pretty typical. And why is it that when some whites don't agree with you, you accuse them of being self-hating, jaded robots who are following some PC operation? As if they don't have a mind of their own. There are more opinions than just your own, you know? Is everyone supposed to follow what you think and believe? If so, when should they do that?

And on the higlighted quote: Obama is a friggen Senator. His wife works also. Why SHOULDN'T they have 1.6 million to invest in a home for their family? You act like the man is being paid peanuts and therefore must be fleecing the system.

His fact sheet...

QUICK FACTS
Born: August 4, 1961 (Hawaii)
Lives in: Chicago, Illinois
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Height: 6' 1" (1.87m)
Family: Married wife Michelle in 1992, 2 daughters Malia and Sasha
Parents: Barack Obama, Sr. (from Kenya) and Ann Dunham (from Kansas)
Religion: United Church of Christ
Drives a: Ford Escape hybrid, Chrysler 300C
Education:
- Graduated: Columbia University (1983) - Major: Political Science
- Law Degree from Harvard (1991) - Major: J.D. - Magna Cum Laude
- Attended: Occidental College
Career: U.S. Senator from Illinois sworn in January 4, 2005
Government Committees:
- Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee
- Foreign Relations Committee
- Veterans Affairs Committee
- 2005 and 2006: served on the Environment and Public Works Committee
Books:
- Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (1995)
- The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream (2006)
- It Takes a Nation: How Strangers Became Family in the Wake of Hurricane Katrina (2006)



The man has paid his dues and has undoubtedly profited from his education, teaching , and working as a Senator in Illinois. He's also written best-selling books which ALSO brings in money.

And while we're on the subject.. here's his wife's Fact Sheet.

Michelle LaVaughn Robinson- Obama

[Born January 17, 1964 (1964-01-17) (age 44)
Chicago, Illinois
Residence Chicago, Illinois, United States
Education A.B. in sociology (Princeton University) cum laude
JD (Harvard Law School)
Occupation Vice President for Community and External Affairs at University of Chicago Hospitals
Religious beliefs Christian
Spouse Barack Obama (1992–present)
Children Malia and Sasha
Parents Frasier Robinson and Marian Robinson


She's a lawyer. And guess what? They did it without needing favor of Affirmative Action.


What about the allegations made by Larry Stillman (google him and watch the video)? Why doesn't the press talk about the immature and complaining expressed by his affrimative action wife's thesis that was just released? It is written on a fourth or fifth grade level and it full of all the 'blame whitey cliches'. People talk about his great educational achievements, please let us be real here. You know, I know and the press know that he is an affrimative action baby pure and simple, end of story, just the facts. Once this marion barry wanna be takes over the white house, you will see a flood of turd worlders storm the gates and the doors of the treasury vault fly open to give away white taxpayers money to those who refuse to work, to pay for 'reparations', head start, food stamps, aid to dependent children, wich, SSI for low IQ non whites, free breakfeast, lunch and dinner for children 'at risk', free day care for single and working hos, free medical insurance for those that will not get off the butsy to work for a living, free college for those darkies that are unable to graduate, school busing of blacks and hispanics to destroy the white schools in white areas, more affrimative action, Jesse Jackson as secretary of state, al sharpie sharpton as the head of the treasury dept., his nutty preacher as the chaplin of the senate, and screwie louie farrafart as head of the US commission on civil rights. Don't forget that with all the help and money thrown to educate these uneducatible hordes he will spend more money on studies to find out why jamal, la quiesha, chico, said, and shaqueta still can't read or add a simple column of numbers.

The rest of your quote is in red because I think that you purposely try to crack jokes on him (or any other black person who is well-to-do) with stereotypes. That happened to be the LONGEST sentence I've ever read, btw. What is upsetting is that you actually believe everything you typed out. When none of this pans out the way you say it will, what will you do? And no need to ask me what I'll do if it DOES pan out because I don't believe it will happen. That's far-fetched. And what's more upsetting is that you poke fun at African American names as if they're the plague. There are idiots who feel that Jewish names are too hard to pronounce and therefore weird, or stupid. You're doing the same thing. THEY'RE NAMES! And the assumption that AA, even as shot as it is, is allowing students with no academic achievement whatsoever enter college is just ridiculous. Blacks who DO attend schools based on a quota system should enter the way everyone else does...with good grades, a student loan, a scholarship, or grant. Not because of their skin color. I have a feeling though that even when AA is irraticated, all of the blacks YOU see going into college will not get your seal of approval because of your biased opinion about how they "may have" gotten there.

[Johnson Brown]

There is no life after white people.
Just look at south Africa.

[Just Erica]

There is no life after white people.
Just look at south Africa.

JB, there are White South Africans in South Africa now. There is, INDEED life after white people. You do know though, that God doesn't favor whites over blacks over hispanics and such, didn't you? We were all created in His image. I said that because some of you act as if whites are the best God ever created.

[newman]

There is no life after white people.
Just look at south Africa.

JB, there are White South Africans in South Africa now. There is, INDEED life after white people. You do know though, that G-d doesn't favor whites over blacks over hispanics and such, didn't you? We were all created in His image. I said that because some of you act as if whites are the best G-d ever created.

And it's a festering, crime-ridden hell hole!

[fjack]

This 'one drop' rule was started in a small parish of La. As far as he being part causcasoid, his ho mammie was celtic, she, nor her white trash family did not come from the region where cascasoid resided. Please read John Baker's book called Race and also consult Coon's book of taxonomy. I consider all white liberals the same as blacks and I see no reason why they should not be forced to live in a ghetto. I do believe it will be the cure for their mental illness. If they don't want to come to their senses let them stay in the depths of the hell hole that are called the inner cities, such as detroit, philly and soon to be New York till they are devoured by the hordes of aggressors and sociopaths that seem to thirive in the ghetto. I am sure that this mulatto will be just as competent as marion barry, david dinkins, cynthia mckinney, the king of chocolate city, the emperor jones and idi amin. You should be very proud of the mulatto. Make sure you goggle larry stillwell to see what your crack head nut case is really all about. Also don't forget to read mammie michele's thesis.