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A UFO POLL? THE OUTTER LIMITS WOO OO OO

I believe they are out there
7 (24.1%)
It may be possible but I don't know
10 (34.5%)
No way! Are you nuts?
11 (37.9%)
I may have believed at one time
1 (3.4%)

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Offline MasterWolf1

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« on: January 27, 2008, 12:18:07 PM »
I know this may be a tad silly.  However this is to wonder if any of you,  at anytime ever wondered if there are such things as UFOs or another form of life even if its not as advanced as Earth.  Outside our solar system, since our technology never gone pass this system.
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Re: UFOs
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2008, 12:43:50 PM »
I really don't know. But there are some points, like the great distance between the solar systems that are against UFO's. :-\
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Re: UFOs
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2008, 01:49:55 PM »
They are Lizard people from the constellation of Sirius...mm hmmm
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Re: UFOs
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2008, 01:51:31 PM »
They are Lizard people from the constellation of Sirius...mm hmmm

Mord showed me a video on Zootube. The message of it was, that Jews are aliens.  ;D
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Re: UFOs
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2008, 03:09:59 PM »
I don't believe in them ;D

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Re: UFOs
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2008, 03:39:32 PM »
yes and no. Yes other creatures might exist, but no - not with free choice.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2008, 03:43:26 PM »
yes and no. Yes other creatures might exist, but no - not with free choice.

please elaborate how and why?
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 04:42:53 PM »
yes and no. Yes other creatures might exist, but no - not with free choice.

please elaborate how and why?

maybe a drop- http://www.koshertorah.com/alefbet.html  (in alphabetical order - "Virtual Reality of Alien Angels" )
 Its not everything,- but does touch on this.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: UFOs
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2008, 05:29:00 PM »
God hasn't stated that there isn't creation on other planets or in the universe, so it could be possible. Who knows.

I think UFO's are stupid though.

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2008, 05:31:51 PM »
interesting thread, but since god does not mention aliens i think they are baloney....

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2008, 05:32:22 PM »
G-d hasn't stated that there isn't creation on other planets or in the universe, so it could be possible. Who knows.

I think UFO's are stupid though.

They are boring and I think an excuse for some people not to believe in G-d but to believe in Aliens, some people believe in both though which is contradicting I think :D

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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2008, 05:38:46 PM »
According to conspiracy whackos there ARE UFOs and Jewish bankers and Masons are keeping them under wraps. :D

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2008, 06:03:12 PM »
According to conspiracy whackos there ARE UFOs and Jewish bankers and Masons are keeping them under wraps. :D

They even have conspiracy UFO Hunter whackos :D

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1200.htm

I was flipping through the channels and saw this on history channel:

http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=173272

I guess that is a new one :D

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Re: UFOs
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2008, 06:32:54 PM »
Maybe it's possible, but I've yet to see any concrete proof, only conspiracy theories.

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2008, 06:53:33 PM »
It makes no difference if intelligent life exists here or there..or if ufo's exist or not.

Their existence or lack of it doesn't disprove Gd's existence and everything that is wonderful and beautiful in this universe.

Nor does it disprove of any miracles that have happened to the Jewish people throughout their history.
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Re: UFOs
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2008, 06:59:34 PM »
If life can exist at hydrothermal vents then it can exist on other planets.

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2008, 07:06:37 PM »
If life can exist at hydrothermal vents then it can exist on other planets.

maybe, maybe not

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2008, 09:00:07 PM »
yes and no. Yes other creatures might exist, but no - not with free choice.

please elaborate how and why?

maybe a drop- http://www.koshertorah.com/alefbet.html  (in alphabetical order - "Virtual Reality of Alien Angels" )
 Its not everything,- but does touch on this.


I read it..eh...a little bit out there...
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2008, 09:51:56 PM »
Aliens do exist.  They're trying to cross over the Southern Border at this very moment.

On the issue of UFO's, I give you this quote: "When man stops believing in G-d, it's not that he believes in nothing; its that he believes in everything."  I don't believe this UFO conspiracy that there are beings from outside of Earth that visit us in flying saucers.  It's really a bit absurd.

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Re: UFOs
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2008, 10:48:59 PM »
I considered it, but its theoretically impossible from a physical stand point. 186,000 mph may seem like a lot, but it would take centuries for anyone to get here
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2008, 11:04:46 PM »
I don't know if they exist, some people claim UFO's are actually time travelers from the future or that they are government aircraft that are top secret. I think it's definitely possible they exist and the topic is very interesting to me.

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2008, 01:22:43 PM »
It makes no difference if intelligent life exists here or there..or if ufo's exist or not.

Their existence or lack of it doesn't disprove Gd's existence and everything that is wonderful and beautiful in this universe.

Nor does it disprove of any miracles that have happened to the Jewish people throughout their history.

Spot on.

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2008, 10:25:22 PM »
It makes no difference if intelligent life exists here or there..or if ufo's exist or not.

Their existence or lack of it doesn't disprove Gd's existence and everything that is wonderful and beautiful in this universe.

Nor does it disprove of any miracles that have happened to the Jewish people throughout their history.

Spot on.

It says in the Zohar that G-d created 6 worlds before this one, one of them was probably the dinosaurs and then 5 others
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2008, 11:10:03 PM »
Well maybe if a UFO or 2 landed on Earth,, Maybe, now just maybe we can ask the little green men if they don't mind gathering Muzzies for their intergalactic zoo.
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2008, 11:15:56 PM »
Re:  "...I considered it, but its theoretically impossible from a physical stand point. 186,000 mph may seem like a lot, but it would take centuries for anyone to get here..."

True, if you're considering that all that will ever be known to man regarding physics, mechanics, and the laws of nature, are known today, and that there are to be no new discoveries ever again.

On the other hand, if you consider the human development in every scientific field of endeavor just in the last 50 years, it stands to reason that what is impossible today, will be considered "standard fare" by our descendants.


It wasn't long ago that "The Academy" scoffed at and denounced Louis Pasteur and Jenner because they insisted that diseases were caused by germs and bacteria.
Sixty years ago the Germans invented the first jet engine airplanes, the first missiles, and were working far ahead of all others in physics and aerospace.
At that time, most everyone would have stated that it is all too obvious that man will never fly at the speed of sound, nor will man ever have just one bomb which is capable of eliminating an entire metropolitan city with one burst.

Now, I suggest all of you reading this look over at your computer on your desk, and explain how is it that thousands of calculations, thousands of photographs and music selections, and instant electronic mail can be stored and generated inside a small square box!

Agreed!
What we know today is that knowledge and discovery is an unlimited field.
It seems factual that our planet has been visited by celestial civilizations.
Don't rely on my opinions...the number of Brigadier Generals, Admirals, Pentagon and Intelligence Officials, as well as Military Brass from France, Japan, UK, including two American hero astronauts who were the first men to walk on the moon, have all  given testimony proving the existence of ET civilizations and inter-galaxy travel.