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Offline Mahatma Gandhi

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Christians must turn the other cheek!
« on: February 08, 2008, 07:53:33 AM »
Christianity is all about love. Jesus forgave the people who crucified him, yet we see his 'followers' advocating war against ethnic communities. It's a shame to see such intolerance amongst Jesus' followers. :(

So what if Muslims are trying to grab your land and women? Why can't you forgive them, a la Jesus? By forgiving, you reach heaven. By fighting them, you're preparing yourself for hellfire. :-[

I sincerely request Christians to surrender to the invaders, and keep their conscience clean. ;)
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2008, 08:00:20 AM »
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So what if Muslims are trying to grab your land and women? Why can't you forgive them, a la Jesus? By forgiving, you reach heaven. By fighting them, you're preparing yourself for hellfire. Embarrassed


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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2008, 08:00:59 AM »
No doubt some would, but many will not. Sooo you are still here?  ::)

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2008, 08:15:48 AM »
Mahatma Gandhi was influenced in his views by Leo Tolstoy. Tolstoy's views were pronounced heretical by the Russian Orthodox Church. Loving one's neighbor or even enemy does not translate to national suicide.

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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2008, 08:31:15 AM »
Now I am completly sure that you are a Muslim.
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2008, 09:40:55 AM »
And than punch tham in the eye so the messege will get deep inside.
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2008, 09:47:49 AM »
Nice joke.
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2008, 09:56:04 AM »
Jesus was not a pacifist. The very word neighbor necessitates that one must be able to co-exist with this person or group. Islam dictates that the entire world is divided into Dar al Islam (the house of Islam) and Dar al Harb (the house of War) and it is the mission of Muslims to bring the entire world into Dar al Islam. So loving ones neighbor does not apply to Muslims. Loving ones neighbor means protecting them from the Islamic Jihadists.

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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2008, 10:26:03 AM »
I am a Chrisitian and don't find this funny, and I am not Jesus if you are a Muslim DROP DEAD IF YOU WORSHIP ISLAM THAT MONSTEROUS CULT THAT IS LOOKING FOR THE BLOOD OF MY CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH BROTHERS AND SISTERS
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2008, 10:47:33 AM »
Jesus was not a pacifist. The very word neighbor necessitates that one must be able to co-exist with this person or group. Islam dictates that the entire world is divided into Dar al Islam (the house of Islam) and Dar al Harb (the house of War) and it is the mission of Muslims to bring the entire world into Dar al Islam. So loving ones neighbor does not apply to Muslims. Loving ones neighbor means protecting them from the Islamic Jihadists.

Suuuure, Jesus asked his followers to go around and kill Muslims, is that it? ::) Hope Jesus doesn't come back, if he sees followers like these, he'll crucify himself. ;)
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2008, 10:53:18 AM »
My dear young man ,may i call you a student? you quote turn the other cheek that refers to to a person who insults you. In bygone days a backhand slap was a insult this is meant to overlook the the insult not to let you get slapped around.


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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2008, 11:08:01 AM »
Jesus was not a pacifist. The very word neighbor necessitates that one must be able to co-exist with this person or group. Islam dictates that the entire world is divided into Dar al Islam (the house of Islam) and Dar al Harb (the house of War) and it is the mission of Muslims to bring the entire world into Dar al Islam. So loving ones neighbor does not apply to Muslims. Loving ones neighbor means protecting them from the Islamic Jihadists.

Suuuure, Jesus asked his followers to go around and kill Muslims, is that it? ::) Hope Jesus doesn't come back, if he sees followers like these, he'll crucify himself. ;)

Jesus would not stand idly by and watch Christians and Jews get slaughtered by these Jihadist scum like your naked hindu fundamentalist holocaust supporting idle would.

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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2008, 11:19:45 AM »
Jesus was not a pacifist. The very word neighbor necessitates that one must be able to co-exist with this person or group. Islam dictates that the entire world is divided into Dar al Islam (the house of Islam) and Dar al Harb (the house of War) and it is the mission of Muslims to bring the entire world into Dar al Islam. So loving ones neighbor does not apply to Muslims. Loving ones neighbor means protecting them from the Islamic Jihadists.

Suuuure, Jesus asked his followers to go around and kill Muslims, is that it? ::) Hope Jesus doesn't come back, if he sees followers like these, he'll crucify himself. ;)

Jesus would not stand idly by and watch Christians and Jews get slaughtered by these Jihadist scum like your naked hindu fundamentalist holocaust supporting idle would.

But Jesus isn't doing anything for you, is he? ;D He is standing idly and watching, because he feels this is what you deserve. Oh, and Jesus did watch idly, as they nailed him to the cross.
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2008, 11:21:01 AM »
The Judeo-Christian Bible also supports the notion of an eye for an eye.  We can forgive some things, but others cross the line.

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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2008, 11:32:48 AM »
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But Jesus isn't doing anything for you, is he?  He is standing idly and watching, because he feels this is what you deserve. Oh, and Jesus did watch idly, as they nailed him to the cross.
your insulting Christian members here also you don'nt seem to understand Christian theology
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2008, 12:08:29 PM »
#1) I really don't appreciate the proselytizing tone of your posts, Mahatma Gandhi. This is a Jewish forum. This is a warning.

#2) I remember the J-man beating up people selling stuff in the temple. That doesn't sound very peaceful to me and these people weren't even threatening his life or the life of any others.

In the temple he found those who were selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the moneychangers at their business. And making a whip of cords, he drove them all, with the sheep and oxen, out of the temple; and he poured out the coins of the money-changers, and overturned their tables. And he told those who sold the pigeons, "Take these things away; you shall not make my Father's house a house of trade." John 2:14-16

The J-man did not say turn the other cheek if your life was in danger. You have taken that WAY too far in a way which was never intended. That was intended for petty insults or arguments. Again, this is not a compatible ideology with Judaism. G-d told Israel to wipe out entire nations.

#3) Letting your enemy kill you and your family is not only unsound and immoral, it goes against what the Bible teaches. You don't know your Bible very well.

"Do not circulate gossip or stand by idly when your brother's life is endangered." Leviticus 19:16

"And David said unto his men, Gird ye on every man his sword. And they girded on every man his sword; and David also girded on his sword: and there went up after David about four hundred men; and two hundred abode by the stuff." 1 Samuel 25:13

"Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight," Psalms 144:1.

And one just for you since I am not a Christian: "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22:36
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2008, 12:13:17 PM »
#1) I really don't appreciate the proselytizing tone of your posts, Mahatma Gandhi. This is a Jewish forum. This is a warning.

I beg your pardon? Asking Christians to follow their religion....how on earth is that proselytizing? ::) I didn't push this down anyone's throat, did I? Nor did I try to convert or convince the Jews around here.....

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#2) I remember the J-man beating up people selling stuff in the temple. That doesn't sound very peaceful to me and these people weren't even threatening his life or the life of any others.

My Christian friends tell me the Jewish priests were corrupt and were threatening the lives of hundreds who'd gathered there.
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2008, 12:14:40 PM »
Christianity is all about love. Jesus forgave the people who crucified him, yet we see his 'followers' advocating war against ethnic communities. It's a shame to see such intolerance amongst Jesus' followers. :(

So what if Muslims are trying to grab your land and women? Why can't you forgive them, a la Jesus? By forgiving, you reach heaven. By fighting them, you're preparing yourself for hellfire. :-[

I sincerely request Christians to surrender to the invaders, and keep their conscience clean. ;)


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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2008, 12:23:27 PM »
My Christian friends tell me the Jewish priests were corrupt and were threatening the lives of hundreds who'd gathered there.

Well your friends are obviously idiots too. You are banned.
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2008, 12:24:43 PM »
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2008, 12:40:26 PM »
You had just barely beat me to it. lol
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2008, 03:45:20 PM »
M.H., you are wrong.

Please read the gospel of Luke.

In verse 3,15 is written

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Then some soldiers asked him, 'And what should we do?' He replied, 'Don't extort money and don't accuse people falsely—be content with your pay.

If Jesus had forbidden the war in general, he would have said: "Lay your weapons on the ground and quit the service".

He did not.

The commentaries of Aurelius Augustinus and Jean Calvin to this point are very clear.

In addition to that became a lot of Gentiles of the "Roman Army" Christs. Konstantin was a commander and Ceasar and he became Christ.

Every major Christian Theologian follows the exegesis of Aurelius Augustinus and Jean Calvin in this point. I have readed the whole chapter in Calvins "Institutio" and I am shure he is right.
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2008, 03:48:49 PM »
This guy is nothing more than an ignorant troll in my opinion...
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2008, 04:07:04 PM »

Jesus would not stand idly by and watch Christians and Jews get slaughtered by these Jihadist scum like your naked hindu fundamentalist holocaust supporting idle would.
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Re: Christians must turn the other cheek!
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2008, 08:29:52 PM »
ban this clown.
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