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Offline islamsucks

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whats wrong with you JTF
« on: February 19, 2008, 07:18:29 PM »
am begging you for help. its a life and death situation, and you guys are making stupid posts on stupid things, i thought JTF was a place of doing things and especially helping one another , but you guys talk about pointless things! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2008, 07:19:20 PM »
wot u need help on brother i have also been reading up on religions and may be able to help u.

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2008, 07:20:16 PM »
I read your other post and if i was Jewish and understood what your talking about, I'd help you... But don't say the other things on the site are pointless.
All or nothing.

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2008, 07:21:49 PM »
I have replied to your same question in the Torah section.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2008, 07:22:17 PM »
am  not trying to say anything negative about this place, its a great place, but my friend might commit suicide, and hes a religious person who helped me understand about Judaism, heres the link if any one hasn't sen it
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=16914.0

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2008, 07:26:03 PM »
You called everyone idiots and a this place pointless  ::)

Yes I can see how much respect you have.  >:(

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2008, 07:26:56 PM »

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2008, 07:27:38 PM »
You called everyone idiots and a this place pointless  ::)

Yes I can see how much respect you have.  >:(


LISTEN I DIDN'T MEAN TO CALL ANYONE NAMES, I SAID THIS OUT OF ANGER, AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT MY FRIEND, IF I REALLY HATED THIS PLACE I WOULD LEAVE

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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2008, 07:27:39 PM »
Cuz, no reason to make 3 threads about the same thing.  It takes time for people to respond to you.  Patience is a virtue.
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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2008, 07:28:58 PM »
my friend might commit suicide
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=16914.0
a bit extreme dont u think.

MY FRIEND BECAME RELIGIOUS IN A NON RELIGIOUS FAMILY, AND NOW THAT HE FOUND OUT THAT HE MIGHT BE A MAMZER, HE FEELS HIM LIFE WAS POINTLESS AND THAT THERES NOTHING2  LIVE FOR

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2008, 07:29:27 PM »
You called everyone idiots and a this place pointless  ::)

Yes I can see how much respect you have.  >:(


LISTEN I DIDN'T MEAN TO CALL ANYONE NAMES, I SAID THIS OUT OF ANGER, AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT MY FRIEND, IF I REALLY HATED THIS PLACE I WOULD LEAVE

Not my problem, your friend will take his life or not, its up to him. You need a Rabbi to see him in person.

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2008, 07:30:37 PM »
Jewish Convert- I sent you the information you asked for. Theirs no more need to contine this discussion about your friend.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2008, 09:09:59 PM »
Jewish Convert- I sent you the information you asked for. Theirs no more need to contine this discussion about your friend.
Why no more discussion about this? It's a life were talking about here!

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Re: CHAIM BEN PESACH PLEASE CAN YOU HELP ME
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2008, 09:25:39 PM »
What's the big emergency?  If they were never Halachacly married to begin with then the children are not Mamzerim.  And who are you to get involved with other people's business?
"Enough weeping and wailing; and the following of leaders & rabbis who are pygmies of little faith & less understanding."
"I believe very much in a nation beating their swords into plowshears but when my enemy has a sword I don't want a plowshear"
-Rabbi Meir Kahane Zs'l HYD

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2008, 09:30:01 PM »
Jewish Convert- I sent you the information you asked for. Theirs no more need to contine this discussion about your friend.
Why no more discussion about this? It's a life were talking about here!

Because it is something that a professional (Rabbi) who should be involved with in deciding the individual case. No one here is allowed to say permitted or assur on this case, + its not about him but his friend. Instead of being in a doubt, he will talk with and ask a Rav.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2008, 09:36:12 PM »
The question is what's wrong with you?  We responded already to you.  If the guy was never married Halachacly to begin with then the marriage is not considered a marriage and the person is not a Mamzer.  But we don't know all the details about this case so go have your friend ask a Rabbi to decide this for him.  The one sentence you wrote is insufficient information for even a Rabbi to give you a decision.
"Enough weeping and wailing; and the following of leaders & rabbis who are pygmies of little faith & less understanding."
"I believe very much in a nation beating their swords into plowshears but when my enemy has a sword I don't want a plowshear"
-Rabbi Meir Kahane Zs'l HYD

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2008, 09:39:48 PM »
dear friend, send a pm to Lubab.

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2008, 09:54:42 PM »
If someone is TRULY suicidal, shouldnt you be taking him, or encouraging him to seek immediate medical help....at the very least in a hospital they can prevent him from hurting himself right now.

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Re: whats wrong with you JTF
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2008, 10:33:25 PM »
Jewish Convert- I sent you the information you asked for. Theirs no more need to contine this discussion about your friend.
Why no more discussion about this? It's a life were talking about here!

Its not that life threating Boere, the person needs medical help. Nothing can be achieved on the forum.

He needs someone there, this pesron has had as much help as we can give. What to you suggest we do?