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£350,000 trips to boost the image of British Muslims

By Ben Leapman, Home Affairs Correspondent, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 1:37am GMT 11/12/2006


Taxpayers are funding a £350,000 globetrotting tour that is intended to improve the "image of British Muslims" around the world.

The Foreign Office has dispatched parties of up to eight Muslims as far afield as Indonesia, Nigeria and Pakistan, so they can "share their experiences" with locals.

The groups have been staying in exclusive hotels and even flown business class on some legs, with all accommodation and travel expenses met from the public purse.

Officials claim that the visits – to 18 countries including 12 Islamic nations such as Morocco, Egypt and Bahrain – have helped to promote a positive image of what life is like for Muslims in Britain.

However, some of the trips appear to have backfired, with participants using them as a platform to criticise Britain and its government.

On a visit to Bangladesh, one of the travelling party claimed at a press conference that British employers are prejudiced against Muslims and are more likely to offer jobs to Hindus. On a trip to Singapore, a tour party member told journalists that British Muslims were "suspicious" of the British Government.

During the trips, the visitors have met prominent radicals. In Sudan, they held talks with Hassan al-Turabi, the veteran Islamist who sheltered Osama bin Laden in the 1990s. In the Middle East they met Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the preacher who has defended Palestinian suicide bombers.

Critics claimed that the -programme of visits, called Projecting British Muslims, are a waste of taxpayers' money.

Ben Wallace, Conservative MP for Lancaster and Wyre, who uncovered the cost using Parliamentary questions, said: "I'm not sure how sending British Muslims abroad to other Islamic countries helps to counter the jihadi movement at home. I can't see that this is anything more than a jolly for a lot of people.

"It should not be forgotten that Britain has an appalling record of exporting jihadi fighters to other countries, not the other way around."

The initiative was suggested by a Muslim panel set up following the July 2005 London bombings. It was included as a proposal in Preventing Extremism Together, last year's government report on ways to tackle radicalisation among young British Muslims.

A Foreign Office spokesman said: "The idea is to promote British Muslims overseas, to try to get rid of the myth that British Muslims are oppressed, and to give Muslims in the UK the experience of how Muslims in other parts of the world live.

"We have had good feedback from both those who went on the visits, and from those countries they visited. A clearer picture of each -other's environment and opinion emerges, breaking often--misleading stereotypes."

One participant, Lutfur Ali, a London-based management consultant, said: "Having initially felt sceptical, I found the visits to be quite invaluable in debunking some of the myths people have of us.

"I think some of the young people who went on these delegations came back grateful they live in a country that gives them the freedom to do a greater number of things."

Sir Iqbal Sacranie, former secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, led a six-member delegation to Pakistan in June. Sadiq Khan, the Labour MP, led a group that visited Malaysia and -Singapore in July.

Each delegation includes between four and eight British Muslims, including women and young people. Since the first visit in late 2005, they have gone to Bahrain, Qatar, Sudan, Egypt, Nigeria, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Morocco, Algeria, Bosnia, Spain, Germany, France and Holland. The next trip will be to the United States.

More than 60 people have taken part. On the five-day Middle East trip, the party flew business class on long-haul legs. In Algeria, there were complaints from group members that their minibus was not air-conditioned.

The visits are funded under a Foreign Office programme called Engaging with the Islamic World Group, which has an £8.5 million annual budget and a staff of 26.

In May, according to Bangladeshi media reports, a member of the British delegation claimed at a press conference in the capital, Dhaka, that if an equally-qualified Hindu and Muslim applied for the same job in Britain, then the Hindu would be three times more likely to land the job.

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Re: British Labour government gives no-obligation £350,000 handout to Muslims
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2006, 11:49:13 PM »
So weak willed, so defeated, my ancestors would cry... bastard limp wristed Brits...
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Re: British Labour government gives no-obligation £350,000 handout to Muslims
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2006, 06:44:02 AM »
So weak willed, so defeated, my ancestors would cry... bastard limp wristed Brits...
It is extremely distressing to see developments as they have unfolded in England concerning the Muslim infestation of this once great power. Take heed America we are just a few steps behind in this lunacy!!
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2006, 08:47:03 PM »
If I was a Brit, I'd gather together all my friends and bombard my local member of parliament with letters asking and demanding answers... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: British Labour government gives no-obligation £350,000 handout to Muslims
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2006, 08:54:45 PM »
Someone get me a bucket. I think I'm gonna be sick.....
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2006, 08:57:00 PM »
What does one expect really.  The British Labor Party is really the Fabian Socialist Party which controlls the BBC and other more far reaching areas of society..... and not only in Britian.  It is truly a sham.  It is time for deeds and not words......  G-d willing someone will wake up and truly take care of business....
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2006, 10:30:21 PM »
Re:  "...If I was a Brit, I'd gather together all my friends and bombard my local member of parliament with letters asking and demanding answers..."

In the U.S.A., no politicians will either receive or respond to emails.  Nor do they receive or respond to phone calls or letters, except by sending a standardized "vote for me" form letter to the sender's address.

However, each and every legal and lawful appeal to an elected representative does result in an official FBI DHS dossier being opened on the citizen petitioning their government and kept permanently; the citizen now considered a potential threat to national security.

Not a joke.

I virtually puke each time I read someone's suggestions of writing or calling your Congressional Representative.

There is no lawful Constitutional Government in Washington...only a corrupt illegal "House Of Lords" super-rich elitists' private "Club" which exists solely for their own enrichment.

The stage is now set for the complete fall of the U.S.A.; the only question being whether or not an American "Fuhrer" will have greater appeal to a fragmented and terrorized society, than will a Restoration of Constitutional Government.  If history is any indicator, then we're all in for a very rough ride indeed.

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Re: British Labour government gives no-obligation £350,000 handout to Muslims
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2006, 07:27:14 AM »
Dear MassuhD

I respectfully disagree - for the single reason that I think people intelligent enough to be debating on JTF.org don't realize (or forget) that the only thing which matters to the majority of people is money.  If you give a person a job and enough money to compete with his fellow-man and make a respectable show in society, you can simultaneously count on his (at worst grudging or tacit) support for policies of unlimited immigration, creation of NWO etc.

The thing is, human civilization is now saturated with enough cash, systems of deception and technology to keep a degenerate human race alives for decades.  The motivating force behind much radicalism and economic depression up until the advent of mass media was unavoidable because it was not possible to homogenize and manipulate minds like it is today.  Think of all the money that floats around, which corresponds to nothing, is simply the result of some trader tapping imaginary figures into his computer - people are literally deceived to work for nothing, for sums of money which don't exist.

The people are deceived and we will likely never see another revolution in the prosperous world, unless our masters really make a balls-up of things - but how likely is that?  Humanity will degenerate into evil which makes the Tower of Babel pale by comparison.  The only solution now is for the Messiah to come.

Hashem made the world for the Jews but this is now a rich man's world.  I believe the only reason Hashem has not already ended this mess of a world because he sheds tears for lost and innocent souls ... I believe the world only exists now because of the deep suffering of certain lonely souls.

But ultimately the world is simply a dream, and nothing is really real but G - d himself.

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2006, 07:57:13 AM »
Re:  "...If I was a Brit, I'd gather together all my friends and bombard my local member of parliament with letters asking and demanding answers..."

In the U.S.A., no politicians will either receive or respond to emails.  Nor do they receive or respond to phone calls or letters, except by sending a standardized "vote for me" form letter to the sender's address.

However, each and every legal and lawful appeal to an elected representative does result in an official FBI DHS dossier being opened on the citizen petitioning their government and kept permanently; the citizen now considered a potential threat to national security.

Not a joke.

I virtually puke each time I read someone's suggestions of writing or calling your Congressional Representative.

There is no lawful Constitutional Government in Washington...only a corrupt illegal "House Of Lords" super-rich elitists' private "Club" which exists solely for their own enrichment.

The stage is now set for the complete fall of the U.S.A.; the only question being whether or not an American "Fuhrer" will have greater appeal to a fragmented and terrorized society, than will a Restoration of Constitutional Government.  If history is any indicator, then we're all in for a very rough ride indeed.
GTHS makes some good points on a spiritual/religious platform.  I, from my studies on American history and world History, seem to feel that Massah you make some very good points as well.  I didn't know that about the elected congressmen there.  If that be the case here, I'm in deep trouble.  I send my MP emails each week informing him on many of the tragedies Canada has gotten itself into and continually caters to because most of our Politicians are has been Lawyers, successful busniessmen looking for more power and used car salesmen who wished to take their "sales/conmen techniques" to the next level.  Here, in Canada, virtually all of our MP's are very benighted to actualities of the World (CFR, Trilateral, Fabian, Bulderbergs etc.) and political ideologies: Conservatism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Nazism etc..  Perhaps due to Canada being small in population and still holding a ounce of Judeo/Christian ethics do return emails and phone calls etc.  How good the outcome is, I do not know.

Personally, I bombard my MP as it is my right and he works for me.  If I end up being just a thorn, big deal, I am not put on this Earth to encourage or cater corruption, dishonesty, insanty and for this I find myself pleased to put a burner under their asses now and then...  I can honestly say that the West is in a real bind will continue to decline....if something isn't done.  I agree with both of your positions...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Well there is the BNP. Recently the principal dancer of the English National Ballet, spoke out in defence of the British National Party, of which she is a member. There will be more high-profile individuals who speak out in favour of the party in the following months.

The Labour Party in Britain has a falling membership. In fact, the BNP has the most popular political website in Britain, and might be the only party with a rising number of members, and mostly because of their Islamosceptic message and honesty.

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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2007, 01:20:04 PM »
Great posts you guys. 

Wonderfulgoy, why did you change your handle from "Get Thee Hence Satan?" And what happened to your avatar?

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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2007, 02:37:12 PM »
Ok everyone, I just did a blog post about this and hat tipped WG/Satan with a link to this page.  Feel free to check out my post when you get a chance:

http://www.theurbangrindblog.com/?p=1677

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2007, 09:59:51 PM »
Ok everyone, I just did a blog post about this and hat tipped WG/Satan with a link to this page.  Feel free to check out my post when you get a chance:

http://www.theurbangrindblog.com/?p=1677
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VERY good Lisa, I left a nice little note...  If you are in Britian, you might consider not paying your taxes and tell your MP why.  That is insulting.  Tell them that they are promoting racism, discrimination etc.  Your taxes are for you not for that.... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: British Labour government gives no-obligation £350,000 handout to Muslims
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2007, 04:09:08 PM »
For all practical purpose, England is lost. There are so many muslims there now, that the british are scared to death of them. The same pattern is to be seen in Continental Europe. They are walking on egg shells. In the USA, the strongest weapons that the muslim cultists have is our own constitution, the American ideal of 'giving the benefit of the doubt', most people are decent, the radical left, the universities that give any radical the same respect that you would give any decent man, the AClU, the national association for the advancement of criminals, a congress with not backbone at all and a president that is some dimwitted that he could not pour urine out of a boot with the directions written on the heal. We don't kiss the muslims and the blacks tusses out of fear, we do it out of downright stupidy.