Author Topic: Hello everyone i am Croatian (Read 20207 times)

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:29:28 PM »

well the consequences i think are that the country it seceded from has the right tho invade it and take it back but hear this i will never turn my back on Croatia just because most of the people during WW2 killed the Serbs and the Jews does not mean that i will hate my country but look if the Muslims start another war there the Serbs will need the Croats help because they don't want Muslims there because how they destroyed homes they stayed at i mean the refugees

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:31:21 PM »

when was i bashing Serbs and Jews i said that kosovo belongs to Serbia and i said i don't want Muslims anywhere in the balkans period

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #27 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:31:31 PM »

Quote from: Americanhero on March 17, 2008, 05:29:28 PM

well the consequences i think are that the country it seceded from has the right tho invade it and take it back but hear this i will never turn my back on Croatia just because most of the people during WW2 killed the Serbs and the Jews does not mean that i will hate my country but look if the Muslims start another war there the Serbs will need the Croats help because they don't want Muslims there because how they destroyed homes they stayed at i mean the refugees

Just this:

Do you recognize that the Serbs from Krajina had the rights for self governnace on the territories on which they were the majority?

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #28 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:33:20 PM »

Quote from: Americanhero on March 17, 2008, 05:31:21 PM

when was i bashing Serbs and Jews i said that kosovo belongs to Serbia and i said i don't want Muslims anywhere in the balkans period

Read this:

Quote from: Americanhero on March 17, 2008, 04:48:55 PM

That might be true but back then the germans were the only country that helped Croatia so that is why most supported plus since the Serbs hated the germans they liked the germans then

You can not justife that Nazi Germnay's help was a right thing.

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:36:45 PM »

no because croatia is for croatians serbia is for serbians

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:38:05 PM »

i am not justifiying it but when another country offers you help during war you take it if you need it

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:40:58 PM »

Another thing i dont support the germans

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #32 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:41:08 PM »

Quote from: Americanhero on March 17, 2008, 05:38:05 PM

i am not justifiying it but when another country offers you help during war you take it if you need it

You needed help to organize, prepare and conduct genocide against Serbs and Jews.

Yes I understand you needed helpp from a stronger force like Germnay. Because you are no match for the Serbs with out foreign factors..

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:42:44 PM »

so the serbs had help from the russians

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #34 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:45:08 PM »

Quote from: Americanhero on March 17, 2008, 05:36:45 PM

no because croatia is for croatians serbia is for serbians

According to the Ustashi principles Croatia is only for the Croatians.

Serbs have stil no chance to return to Croatia.
The Serbian presence in Croatia and Krajina which has it's roots comming from the 9th century is not resptected by any Croats. Also not by this so called non Nazi Croat which shares the idea of the Ante Starcevic's recept that Croatis should only be populated with the Croats.

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #35 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:49:22 PM »

i hate Ustashi people because they killed people in my family during the war because they did not support them so don't call me a Nazi like i said before kosovo belongs to Serbia so don't twist my words around and say i support Nazis

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #36 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:52:04 PM »

Quote from: Americanhero on March 17, 2008, 05:49:22 PM

i hate Ustashi

realy?

Quote from: Americanhero on March 17, 2008, 05:36:45 PM

no because croatia is for croatians serbia is for serbians

Everything is clear!

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:54:32 PM »

the only reason i said that is because like Chaim likes to say Jews belong in Israel. i said that because each country is for people from that country like Russia belongs to Russians and Muslims don't belong there

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:57:25 PM »

i support the Serbs i think they need to take back kosovo because Muslims through out the former Yugoslavia see this and then they will declare independence in a lot of country's there like Croatia and Serbia

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #39 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:57:53 PM »

Quote from: Americanhero on March 17, 2008, 05:54:32 PM

the only reason i said that is because like Chaim likes to say Jews belong in Israel. i said that because each country is for people from that country like Russia belongs to Russians and Muslims don't belong there

Serbs were the constitutional nation of Croatia.

Croatia was before 1990 a state of two nations of the croatians and of the Serbians who lived on the administrative territories of socialst Republic of Croatia.

Is it to strange that your statement" croatia for croats" reminds me about the Ustashi principle the croatia must only be populated with the Croats?

You can only establish that with genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #40 on:** March 17, 2008, 05:59:49 PM »

did you read my post before i said i hate Ustashi people because they killed people in my family and yet you keep insinuating that i am a Nazi

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #41 on:** March 17, 2008, 06:00:42 PM »

Quote from: Americanhero on March 17, 2008, 05:57:25 PM

i support the Serbs

Yess but you also support the recpet (ideology) of Ante Starcevic and Ante Pavelic which had the following head purposes:
The establisment of a Croatian state only for the Croats.

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 17, 2008, 06:02:23 PM »

i did not know that was there ideology i just think each country is made for That group

EagleEye · « **Reply #43 on:** March 17, 2008, 06:12:54 PM »

I'm surprised the response hasn't been more intense.

Anyways the Croatians during WWII were clerical fascists not national socialists but they were a brutal regime. Of course this is 2008, not 1940, and surely Croatians had variant degree of support of their leaders. Some enthusiastically supported them, others silently disagreed.

דוד בן זאב אריה · « **Reply #44 on:** March 17, 2008, 06:33:05 PM »

wow you are an Americanhero

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 17, 2008, 10:42:39 PM »

yes i am i am a Marine

Sergio 11 · « **Reply #46 on:** March 18, 2008, 04:17:42 AM »

Quote from: DALMACIJA on March 17, 2008, 04:39:27 PM

Quote from: Sergio 11 on March 17, 2008, 01:55:18 AM
I don't know why the Croats and the Serbs fight each other...

Let me turn this question:
WHY WERE THE GERMANS FIGHTING THE JEWS

My friend. Learn something about the history of the Croatians.

Shall I tell you why they fought each others?
The Croatians have always tried to eliminate the Serbian presence on the territories of today's Croatia. According to the politic of Ante Starcevic (the father of all Croats) the Croatian state must only be populated with Croats. Based on the instructions of Ante Starcevic the Croatians started to conduct genocide against the Serbs.

- During WW2 the Croats managed to exterminate 800.000 Serbs in concentrationcamps.
- In the periode of 1990 till 1995 the Croats exiled the whole Serbian population (800.000 Serbian people) from Krajina and Croatia.

I hope you understand now why these two nations were and still are figting each others!

you havn't explained why the two nations hate each other you have just regurgitated history to fit the profile of "Serbia vs Croatia" there wasn't all this bloodshed because of some dictators with expansionist ideas i know it and you know it... there was something bigger lying underneath the surface which i can't figure out...

i asked why and you went off on a tangent about what took place way back when which i am already readily aware of.

its ok not to know the answer but don't tell me that it started through dictatorial powers because that is an unfounded lie....

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #47 on:** March 18, 2008, 10:13:19 AM »

That was your quote i never stated that I don't know why the Croats and the Serbs fight each other... you posted that Sergio not me

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 18, 2008, 10:27:17 AM »

Another thing i never said i hate serbs

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #49 on:** March 18, 2008, 12:52:07 PM »

Quote from: David Ben Ze'ev Aryeh on March 17, 2008, 06:33:05 PM

wow you are an Americanhero

Other American "heroes" supported also this kind of people back in 1995...

According to him Croatia is only for the Croats.

That is a heroic speech?

It explains everything....