Hello everyone i am Croatian

[DALMACIJA]

its ok not to know the answer but don't tell me that it started through dictatorial powers because that is an unfounded lie....

I will go deeper into the subject.

Serbs do not hate Croats.  The Croats hate the Serbs because the Croats are the descants of the Serbs who accepted Roman catholism. That's why the Croats of today speak Serbian.

With other words the Croats are the fallen Serbs and they are ashamed because of it.
That's why they can not stand anything what represents the Serbs.

[DALMACIJA]

  Of course this is 2008, not 1940,

The ustashi ideology in Croatia is today  of course more camouflaged that during WW2 and during the collapse of Yugoslavia.

But the ustashi ideology is still alive in today's Croatia.
This Croat won't recognize that. Maybe he is not informed enough or he has no problems with it.

Today - 2008 -
- 80% of the exiled Serbs from Krajina and Croatia did not return back to their homelands.
- The Serbian private property is not returned back to the Serbs and it is still stolen by Croatia.
- Violence and hatred against the Serbs is something that the Serbs are still facing today in Croatia.
- Ustashi and other Nazis from WW2 are accepted as national heroes in Croatia.


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[Ultra Requete]

Welcome American Hero, I don't undurstand why Croats who I met on net think of themself as Goths or Iranians not Slavs. And why Balkan Slavic nations fight each other instead of fighting the Turks (bosniaks, albanians, etc...)  We shud all be brothers in Christ. 

[DALMACIJA]

i did not know that was there ideology i just think each country is made for That group

According to the constitutions of Yugoslavia Croatia was a bi-national state, a state of the Serbian and Croatian nations which lived on it's territory.

Croatia did not had the right to remove the state federal status of the Serbs from Croatia.

Tell me friend, was Croatia only made for the Croats?
You are a supported of the anti facsist movement of Yugoslavia?

What was the main principle of the anti facsist movement of Yugoslavia regarding the creation of a new Croatia state?

The following:

"There is no, there cannot be and there will not be a Croatia in which the Serbs could not be guaranteed full equality and full rights";

You claim to be a descant of anti fascists?
Do you respect the above  mentioned principle of the anti-fascist movement which is the movement of your fammily according to you?

[DALMACIJA]

Welcome American Hero, I don't undurstand why Croats who I met on net think of themself as Goths or Iranians not Slavs. And why Balkan Slavic nations fight each other instead of fighting the Turks (bosniaks, albanians, etc...)  We shud all be brothers in Christ. 

Remember the Croats committed genocide against the Serbs!
They also bannished the Serbian minority from Krajina and Croatia.

Do you really think that the Croats and the Serbs should form some kind of alliance.
You do not thing like that?

[Ultra Requete]

Not likely, Polish and German skinheads are beating eachover to this day in Oder border towns. And we were in war last time sixty years ago not ten. Still we must all be united against muslims or they will pick us up one by one. The muslims make old rivals Jews and Christians alies and maybe future friends I don't see why Croats and Serbs cannot work together in the (far) future as they in past fought together Turks under Autrian leadership in XVII and XVIII century. 

[DALMACIJA]

I don't see why Croats and Serbs cannot work together in the (far) future as they in past fought together Turks under Autrian leadership in XVII and XVIII century. 

This is so disrespectfull from your side!!
You do not know what they have done to us.

I told you they committd genocide against us and have stolen our land.
How can you even say something like that.

I thought you people fully supported the Serbs in our battle against our enemies.
But no, you only think about the Muslims. And Croations are good catholics? ? ? ?

Wel you support us in our battle against Islamic fundamentalists.

But when we have problems with for example Croats (catholics) then you suddenly have other ideas.

You only support the Serbs when you have your own benefits of it!!
When the Serbs from Krajina (today Croatia) and Serbia of course were good for Europe and died  protecting Christianity and Europe against the Turks, they were supported and beloved by Europe.

As soon as the Turks left the Balkans (due Serbian struggle)
and when the Serbs started to be attacked by the Vatican they suddenly did not were respected and beloved any more.

[Americanhero1]

Again when did i say i hate Serbia never i said i support them 100% when it comes to kosovo but i will not say that i hate Croatia i never had any problem with Serbia and when i said that Croatia is for Croatian i miss spoke but stop calling me a Nazi

[DALMACIJA]

when i said that Croatia is for Croatian i miss spoke but stop calling me a Nazi

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Ti mislis da sam se ja juce rodio (you think that I was born yesterday)

[Americanhero1]

i miss spoke because i don't know the whole history of that area i am still finding out new thing about it everyday

[DALMACIJA]

i miss spoke because i don't know the whole history of that area i am still finding out new thing about it everyday

Let me tell you something honesly:

Croatia had two sovereignties, a Serbian and a Croatian!

The constitution of the ex Yugoslav federation can confirm this to you if you do not believe me. Read the constitution of SFRJ from 1971!

We the Serbs and the Croats lived together with each other in Yugoslavia.
Our common Republic was called the socialist Republic of Croatia which was part of the Yugoslav federation.

 This common life between the Croats and the Serbs was ruined after the arrival of the separatist in Croatia. These separatists under the authority of Franjo Tudjman started to eliminate the founding principles of Croatia. They eliminated the Serbian constitutional rights which were established by the Yugoslav ant-fascist forces after 1945 and which had the intend to guarantee the security of the Serbian minority of the socialist Republic of Croatia.

The Croatian state as a state of two nations.
This was established by the anti fascist movement of Yugoslavia with purpose to guarantee the rights of the Serbs who had faced genocide.

What would the Serbs from Krajina and Croatia expect after the elimination of their rights?

They will be remembered about the genocide form WW2 which ended the lives of + 800.000 Serbs.

Further I can tell you many stories about the experiences of the Serbs in Croatia during their independence back in the beginning of the nineties.

Trust me I know what I am saying I am from those areas.
The Croats are dangerous!

There is no life possible with them anymore.
After they stabbed us  the Serbs in our back for the 3rd time!

[Americanhero1]

What do you mean stabbed Serbs in our back for the 3rd time

[DALMACIJA]

What do you mean stabbed Serbs in our back for the 3rd time

1.
During WW1, the Croats fought with passions against the Serbs alongside army of  the Austrian-Hungarian empire. After WW1 in 1918, the Serbs became victorious. The Serbs welcomed the Croats to live together with each other in Royal Yugoslavia. In 1918 Royal Yugoslavia was established as a kingdom for 3 nations: Croats, Serbs and Slovenians.

2.
During WW2 in 1941, the Croats turned their back against the Serbs and  betrayed Royal Yuoglslavia (which was also their homeland) when they decided to join Nazi Germarny. The Serbs organized anti facists actions in Croatia and invited the Croats to join them in their struggle againsth the Ustashi regime and the Nazis.

After WW2, the Yugoslav communist Serbs established the Socialist Republic of Croatia. Which's creation was based on the following principle:
"There is no, there cannot be and there will not be a Croatia in which the Serbs could not be guaranteed full equality and full rights";

3.
In 1990 the Croats started to eliminate the Serbian constitutional rights and that was the final occasion for the civil war between the Croats and the Serbs in Croatia. In 1995 the Croats with the help of the US and the EU started to attack Krajina which was an UNPA (UN's protected area) and exiled 500.000 Serbs from Krajina in 1995-08.

[DALMACIJA]

Your question:

What is Krajina ? ?

My anwser:

Krajina occupied the next areas:
Norther Dalmatia (my place ), Kordun, Banija, Lika and parts of Eastern and Western Slavonia.

The Serbian presence in Krajina has its roots comming from the 9th century.
The Serbian population in Krajina started to enlargde in the 16-17 century.

The word "Krajina" means military frontier. It was the frontier (border) between the Turkish empire and the European western civilization. They Serbs from Krajina defendent whole Europe because they were launched on the front line which was constanty in battle with the Turks the inavder form the east.

The Krajina Serbs were recognized for their contribute to the battle against the Turkish invaders. Their actions were recognized by 2 kings of the Austrian Hungarian empire and Krajina gained self governance (autonomy under the AustrianHungairan empire) in the 16 century.

Krajina in the 16 - 18 century





Krajina duirng the war in Yugoslavia - 1990 - 1995