Why are Jews the most hated of all peoples

[FULL METAL JACKET]

Sounds correct. Even in traditionally religious strong hold countries like Spain, Portugal, and Italy, church going is very low. I went to Italy last summer and didn't see any church goers. Every single church was relatively empty.

[Dr. Dan]

because we were chosen by G-d on mount Sinai over 3,300 years ago

and being chosen doesn't mean we are better...it just means we have a skill that is unique as a nation..just as other nations have their unique skills.

Yes it does in some ways. Even though Jews themselves many times try to deny it, the facts are that G-d himself calls the Jews chosen, and better. Of- course Jews have to live up to the title by following G-d's commandments, but still a Jew is regarded better because that is the word of G-d himself in the Torah.
 Also about Mt. Sinai- Rav Kahane (Ore Harayon) brings down a Gemmarah that says that why was Mt. Sinai called Mt. Sinai? because it comes from the word Sinam- Hatred- Jew hatred was created their, because once the Jews were Chosen by G-d (which actually was a 2 way process, we choose G-d and G-d choose us when we said "Naase Venishma" We will do and we will hear) hatred for them was created. Thats not to say that absolutly everyone hates Jews, but their is a general rule, a Halacha that Esav hates Yaakov and also that Ishmael hates Yaakov.

Tzvi, I beg to differ...Just as a father shouldn't have a favorite child (since it causes terrible disfunctionality in the family), Gd wouldn't make us His favorite nation.

On the other hand, we are chosen to be leaders of morality and priests...while another nation might be chosen to do something else.

However, we are not better than any nation.  we are not superior to anyone.. We are one of the nations and Gd chose us to do something unique for the world.

[Dr. Dan]

because we were chosen by G-d on mount Sinai over 3,300 years ago

and being chosen doesn't mean we are better...it just means we have a skill that is unique as a nation..just as other nations have their unique skills.

Yes it does in some ways. Even though Jews themselves many times try to deny it, the facts are that G-d himself calls the Jews chosen, and better. Of- course Jews have to live up to the title by following G-d's commandments, but still a Jew is regarded better because that is the word of G-d himself in the Torah.
 Also about Mt. Sinai- Rav Kahane (Ore Harayon) brings down a Gemmarah that says that why was Mt. Sinai called Mt. Sinai? because it comes from the word Sinam- Hatred- Jew hatred was created their, because once the Jews were Chosen by G-d (which actually was a 2 way process, we choose G-d and G-d choose us when we said "Naase Venishma" We will do and we will hear) hatred for them was created. Thats not to say that absolutly everyone hates Jews, but their is a general rule, a Halacha that Esav hates Yaakov and also that Ishmael hates Yaakov.

not ishmael hating yaacov, it's ishamel hating yitzhak.

[Ambiorix]

Sounds correct. Even in traditionally religious strong hold countries like Spain, Portugal, and Italy, church going is very low. I went to Italy last summer and didn't see any church goers. Every single church was relatively empty.

Much people consider the Church and its clerics as a bunch of hypocrites, that use God, and the religion, for their own profit. In fact that provoked Lutheranism, Calvinism and Protestantism, to go away from the Catholic Church. Some other people regard the New Testament as "silly" too "hippy",  and find the Tanach too blood-thirsty.
Also much people find it good, that religion has no state influence anymore, because they consider religion as a private affair, not an affair to be guiding a country's political affairs.
We will see how the younger European generation react, maybe they'll become more religious than we and our parents are.

In the middle ages, if I am correctly, the people were mostly analphabetic, and were just required to attend the mass physically, it was spoken entirely in Latin ( I guess until 1968 in the Catholic Church) , and the priests faced the people with their backs.
Since 1968, the mass is spoken in the respective countries' languages, and now, the people are turning away from it.
A while ago , the pope allowed priests to do the mass in Latin without any permission of the bishops, or cardinals.
These masses, tend to attract more people.
This means that the Church might become little by little more conservative,
Don't forget, that there are powerful organizations, like Opus Dei, that are operating behind the scenes, and have big influence on some state leaders.
I guess Europe is sleeping now, because, materially, it goes too well here. "Why believe in god?" is what most people think. They even find religious people idiots. Political correctness, and anti-racist lobbies protect the muslims today from any criticism on their religion, but mostly the mass media joke about Christianity every day here.
We might need a big conflict, war, disaster, to wake the people up.
Lots of people are also more open to non-European religions, such as Budhism,.... and New-Age, sects.
Also a lot of right wing people here passionately hate Islam, and all "Abrahamic" religions, including Christianity, and Judaism.
Some nationalist like to revive the Odin/Wotan/Jupiter/Zeus religions, as they consider the Roman version of the religion of Jesus total BS.

[Sparky]

Jews are hated by Christians because they believe the Jews killed Christ.

Jews are hated by Muslims because it's commanded by the Koran.

Jews are hated by the Nazis because Jews are leftists/communists who promote multiculturalism and diversity.

Jews are hated by socialists because they view Israel as imperialist and a colonial occupier.

Jews are hated because they are a very, very vocal minority that's successful, powerful, and opinionated.

Jews are hated because they are seen as loyal to Israel rather than the country they reside.

Jews are hated because they see themselves as the Chose People and therefore considered arrogant.

I could go on.  Unfortunately, I think there are many reasons why Jews are hated.       
 

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

because we were chosen by G-d on mount Sinai over 3,300 years ago

and being chosen doesn't mean we are better...it just means we have a skill that is unique as a nation..just as other nations have their unique skills.

Yes it does in some ways. Even though Jews themselves many times try to deny it, the facts are that G-d himself calls the Jews chosen, and better. Of- course Jews have to live up to the title by following G-d's commandments, but still a Jew is regarded better because that is the word of G-d himself in the Torah.
 Also about Mt. Sinai- Rav Kahane (Ore Harayon) brings down a Gemmarah that says that why was Mt. Sinai called Mt. Sinai? because it comes from the word Sinam- Hatred- Jew hatred was created their, because once the Jews were Chosen by G-d (which actually was a 2 way process, we choose G-d and G-d choose us when we said "Naase Venishma" We will do and we will hear) hatred for them was created. Thats not to say that absolutly everyone hates Jews, but their is a general rule, a Halacha that Esav hates Yaakov and also that Ishmael hates Yaakov.

Tzvi, I beg to differ...Just as a father shouldn't have a favorite child (since it causes terrible disfunctionality in the family), Gd wouldn't make us His favorite nation.

On the other hand, we are chosen to be leaders of morality and priests...while another nation might be chosen to do something else.

However, we are not better than any nation.  we are not superior to anyone.. We are one of the nations and Gd chose us to do something unique for the world.

 Who said that the other nations are concidered children of G-d? Even Yeshu himself after saying that he is the son of G-d, said to the Jewish crowd who wanted to stown him, that he is like all the other Jews who are called children of G-d. "You are the children of G-d".
 We are unique, but maybe even logic wont say that we ar ebetter, but if G-d himself in the Torah (aka "old-testement, Tannach, Bible, whatever you want to call it) clearly states that, then I would agree with G-d's decision. That being said it doesn't mean a Jew can do harm to a non-Jew, or steal from them or do unjustly towards them which is all completly forbidden and a sin.

[Ulli]

Jews are hated by Christians because they believe the Jews killed Christ.

Come on Sparky . Here are a lot of Christians from different denominations.

I have never thought about this point in my whole life.

In addition to that I have met some real evil jewhaters during my lifetime, but none of them has blaimed the Jews because of that.

Normally such people in my country say this:

1. "The Jew is grabby"

2. "The Jew is cheating in business"

3. "The Jew is ruling the world from behind the scenes"

4. "The Jew is almighty and can do whatever he want"

In my oppinion is this a mix of persecution complex and envy.

Some people are thinking and talking about nothing else than Jews - Jews here Jews there - They are totally obsessed by Jews.

Perhaps Tzvi is right about this Esau-Ismael issue.

[mord]

Most anti semites are socialists and moslems the other group are for the most part atheists and beleive in communist liberation theology

[EagleEye]

Jewish upward mobility makes Jews an easy target when things go wrong.

Jews usually occupy a disproporionate amount of positions in every political movement.  If one of the movements fails, such as George W's idioic regime, Jews will be blamed for it.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Many things posted and said might be temporarily true and the excuse, but it is not necessarily the REASON. For most of those their was definitly a time when the oppositre was true and still Jews were hated, ex- "Jews are rich" - that came recently + not all Jews are rich, for the vast majority of history in the galut (in Europe for example, Jews were dirt poor).  Jews are in politics- thats also very recent, most Jews had absolutly no political conciderations and power in history. etc.

[Dr. Dan]

because we were chosen by G-d on mount Sinai over 3,300 years ago

and being chosen doesn't mean we are better...it just means we have a skill that is unique as a nation..just as other nations have their unique skills.

Yes it does in some ways. Even though Jews themselves many times try to deny it, the facts are that G-d himself calls the Jews chosen, and better. Of- course Jews have to live up to the title by following G-d's commandments, but still a Jew is regarded better because that is the word of G-d himself in the Torah.
 Also about Mt. Sinai- Rav Kahane (Ore Harayon) brings down a Gemmarah that says that why was Mt. Sinai called Mt. Sinai? because it comes from the word Sinam- Hatred- Jew hatred was created their, because once the Jews were Chosen by G-d (which actually was a 2 way process, we choose G-d and G-d choose us when we said "Naase Venishma" We will do and we will hear) hatred for them was created. Thats not to say that absolutly everyone hates Jews, but their is a general rule, a Halacha that Esav hates Yaakov and also that Ishmael hates Yaakov.

Tzvi, I beg to differ...Just as a father shouldn't have a favorite child (since it causes terrible disfunctionality in the family), Gd wouldn't make us His favorite nation.

On the other hand, we are chosen to be leaders of morality and priests...while another nation might be chosen to do something else.

However, we are not better than any nation.  we are not superior to anyone.. We are one of the nations and Gd chose us to do something unique for the world.

 Who said that the other nations are concidered children of G-d? Even Yeshu himself after saying that he is the son of G-d, said to the Jewish crowd who wanted to stown him, that he is like all the other Jews who are called children of G-d. "You are the children of G-d".
 We are unique, but maybe even logic wont say that we ar ebetter, but if G-d himself in the Torah (aka "old-testement, Tannach, Bible, whatever you want to call it) clearly states that, then I would agree with G-d's decision. That being said it doesn't mean a Jew can do harm to a non-Jew, or steal from them or do unjustly towards them which is all completly forbidden and a sin.

no you CAN call it the Torah.....that is what it is to us Jews.

As far as the Nations of the world (was it 70 or 128? I don't remember)...Each of those nations, as a whole, are a son or daughter of Gd's...much like a father has sons and daughters.  One child might be gifted in math, while another in music...Therefore, like any father, he will put the one gifted in math for engineering school and the one gived in music for opera.  The Jewish nation, we are gifted in whistle blowing and speaking our minds...and so Gd presented the Torah and we received it.  I can't speak for other nations, but they are basically gifted in other things.

Now, of course, most human beings are Gd's children...All i was trying to get at was to present a metaphor.

And this is the reason why I don't go walking around like i'm better than everyone just because I was born a Jew.  All righteous people have merit whether they do righteous deed because of Torah or they do righteous deeds becuase of what the Dalai Lama said.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Regarding the reason why there is less Anti Semitism in America
  

-Know, that all people divide into seventy archetype groups, these are the seventy nations
-Every nation had rights to certain land, as things manifest over time these lands might change.
-The people in the US don’t have the right to be there either.-Meaning the fact that they ended up there shows they have some connection, but technically it is not their land either .
-In Europe it is their land and we have no right to be there.
-Meaning in Gulus (diaspora) we might end up there but it comes with the package.

 
http://truekabbalah.org/pages/documents/k00027.htm

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

because we were chosen by G-d on mount Sinai over 3,300 years ago

and being chosen doesn't mean we are better...it just means we have a skill that is unique as a nation..just as other nations have their unique skills.

Yes it does in some ways. Even though Jews themselves many times try to deny it, the facts are that G-d himself calls the Jews chosen, and better. Of- course Jews have to live up to the title by following G-d's commandments, but still a Jew is regarded better because that is the word of G-d himself in the Torah.
 Also about Mt. Sinai- Rav Kahane (Ore Harayon) brings down a Gemmarah that says that why was Mt. Sinai called Mt. Sinai? because it comes from the word Sinam- Hatred- Jew hatred was created their, because once the Jews were Chosen by G-d (which actually was a 2 way process, we choose G-d and G-d choose us when we said "Naase Venishma" We will do and we will hear) hatred for them was created. Thats not to say that absolutly everyone hates Jews, but their is a general rule, a Halacha that Esav hates Yaakov and also that Ishmael hates Yaakov.

Tzvi, I beg to differ...Just as a father shouldn't have a favorite child (since it causes terrible disfunctionality in the family), Gd wouldn't make us His favorite nation.

On the other hand, we are chosen to be leaders of morality and priests...while another nation might be chosen to do something else.

However, we are not better than any nation.  we are not superior to anyone.. We are one of the nations and Gd chose us to do something unique for the world.

 Who said that the other nations are concidered children of G-d? Even Yeshu himself after saying that he is the son of G-d, said to the Jewish crowd who wanted to stown him, that he is like all the other Jews who are called children of G-d. "You are the children of G-d".
 We are unique, but maybe even logic wont say that we ar ebetter, but if G-d himself in the Torah (aka "old-testement, Tannach, Bible, whatever you want to call it) clearly states that, then I would agree with G-d's decision. That being said it doesn't mean a Jew can do harm to a non-Jew, or steal from them or do unjustly towards them which is all completly forbidden and a sin.

no you CAN call it the Torah.....that is what it is to us Jews.

As far as the Nations of the world (was it 70 or 128? I don't remember)...Each of those nations, as a whole, are a son or daughter of Gd's...much like a father has sons and daughters.  One child might be gifted in math, while another in music...Therefore, like any father, he will put the one gifted in math for engineering school and the one gived in music for opera.  The Jewish nation, we are gifted in whistle blowing and speaking our minds...and so Gd presented the Torah and we received it.  I can't speak for other nations, but they are basically gifted in other things.

Now, of course, most human beings are Gd's children...All i was trying to get at was to present a metaphor.

And this is the reason why I don't go walking around like i'm better than everyone just because I was born a Jew.  All righteous people have merit whether they do righteous deed because of Torah or they do righteous deeds becuase of what the Dalai Lama said.

 G-d forbid (the last part).
 
 The nations are not Sons of G-d. They are His creations, but so is a monkey, so is a tree. Im not trying to insult them, but their definitly is a hugg difference between the way G-d made a human and a Jew. Your right each nation does have its own mission, but still it doesn't come anywhere near to that of Israel. By the way also within Israel, the Kohanim are also seperated and in ways better then an Israelite (and one has to show them the proper respect). Because they are better they have strickter rules, etc. If we judge a person by his/her body then we are no different then a monkey, infact some animals are actually better then humans physically wise, but we (really G-d) judges by the soul, the essence and He states that a Jew is better. (But their is also a Machlocket about who is better a Jew who keeps 50% or a goy that does 100% of 7 laws). - After all said and done, ultimatly the Jew, BUT he will have to go threw a lot of punishment to get to his final destination which is higher though.

[Dr. Dan]

because we were chosen by G-d on mount Sinai over 3,300 years ago

and being chosen doesn't mean we are better...it just means we have a skill that is unique as a nation..just as other nations have their unique skills.

Yes it does in some ways. Even though Jews themselves many times try to deny it, the facts are that G-d himself calls the Jews chosen, and better. Of- course Jews have to live up to the title by following G-d's commandments, but still a Jew is regarded better because that is the word of G-d himself in the Torah.
 Also about Mt. Sinai- Rav Kahane (Ore Harayon) brings down a Gemmarah that says that why was Mt. Sinai called Mt. Sinai? because it comes from the word Sinam- Hatred- Jew hatred was created their, because once the Jews were Chosen by G-d (which actually was a 2 way process, we choose G-d and G-d choose us when we said "Naase Venishma" We will do and we will hear) hatred for them was created. Thats not to say that absolutly everyone hates Jews, but their is a general rule, a Halacha that Esav hates Yaakov and also that Ishmael hates Yaakov.

Tzvi, I beg to differ...Just as a father shouldn't have a favorite child (since it causes terrible disfunctionality in the family), Gd wouldn't make us His favorite nation.

On the other hand, we are chosen to be leaders of morality and priests...while another nation might be chosen to do something else.

However, we are not better than any nation.  we are not superior to anyone.. We are one of the nations and Gd chose us to do something unique for the world.

 Who said that the other nations are concidered children of G-d? Even Yeshu himself after saying that he is the son of G-d, said to the Jewish crowd who wanted to stown him, that he is like all the other Jews who are called children of G-d. "You are the children of G-d".
 We are unique, but maybe even logic wont say that we ar ebetter, but if G-d himself in the Torah (aka "old-testement, Tannach, Bible, whatever you want to call it) clearly states that, then I would agree with G-d's decision. That being said it doesn't mean a Jew can do harm to a non-Jew, or steal from them or do unjustly towards them which is all completly forbidden and a sin.

no you CAN call it the Torah.....that is what it is to us Jews.

As far as the Nations of the world (was it 70 or 128? I don't remember)...Each of those nations, as a whole, are a son or daughter of Gd's...much like a father has sons and daughters.  One child might be gifted in math, while another in music...Therefore, like any father, he will put the one gifted in math for engineering school and the one gived in music for opera.  The Jewish nation, we are gifted in whistle blowing and speaking our minds...and so Gd presented the Torah and we received it.  I can't speak for other nations, but they are basically gifted in other things.

Now, of course, most human beings are Gd's children...All i was trying to get at was to present a metaphor.

And this is the reason why I don't go walking around like i'm better than everyone just because I was born a Jew.  All righteous people have merit whether they do righteous deed because of Torah or they do righteous deeds becuase of what the Dalai Lama said.

 G-d forbid (the last part).
 
 The nations are not Sons of G-d. They are His creations, but so is a monkey, so is a tree. Im not trying to insult them, but their definitly is a hugg difference between the way G-d made a human and a Jew. Your right each nation does have its own mission, but still it doesn't come anywhere near to that of Israel. By the way also within Israel, the Kohanim are also seperated and in ways better then an Israelite (and one has to show them the proper respect). Because they are better they have strickter rules, etc. If we judge a person by his/her body then we are no different then a monkey, infact some animals are actually better then humans physically wise, but we (really G-d) judges by the soul, the essence and He states that a Jew is better. (But their is also a Machlocket about who is better a Jew who keeps 50% or a goy that does 100% of 7 laws). - After all said and done, ultimatly the Jew, BUT he will have to go threw a lot of punishment to get to his final destination which is higher though.

What's the huge difference at the time of birth between the way Gd created a Jew and a non-Jew?

[jdl4ever]

Tzvi, you are wrong.  Genesis says that G-d created Adam in his own image and breathed life into him.  And Genesis calls man the "sons of G-d".

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Tzvi, you are wrong.  Genesis says that G-d created Adam in his own image and breathed life into him.  And Genesis calls man the "sons of G-d".

 I base what I said from Rav Kahane himself. I dont mean to offend non-Jews, but the truth is the Truth. (check Ore Harayon , different places including page 697, 745 - English version.).

[Sparky]

Jews are hated by Christians because they believe the Jews killed Christ.

Come on Sparky . Here are a lot of Christians from different denominations.

I have never thought about this point in my whole life.

In addition to that I have met some real evil jewhaters during my lifetime, but none of them has blaimed the Jews because of that.

GP - Haven't you ever heard the term Christ-killers in reference to Jews?  Christians have hated Jews for this reason for two thousand years and it still continues today. Thank goodness there are righteous gentiles like yourself who don't believe this. But to imply this isn't one of the reasons for anti-Semitism is incorrect.

[Ambiorix]

Jews are hated by Christians because they believe the Jews killed Christ.

Come on Sparky . Here are a lot of Christians from different denominations.

I have never thought about this point in my whole life.

In addition to that I have met some real evil jewhaters during my lifetime, but none of them has blaimed the Jews because of that.

GP - Haven't you ever heard the term Christ-killers in reference to Jews?  Christians have hated Jews for this reason for two thousand years and it still continues today. Thank goodness there are righteous gentiles like yourself who don't believe this. But to imply this isn't one of the reasons for anti-Semitism is incorrect.

I think the Church today is not teaching its followers to hate Jews. Besides the first couple of centuries the Christians themselves were hunted down.  So I think you exaggerate with stating we hated Jews for 2000 years, Sparky. Anti-Judaism from Christians stating " they killed Christ" is virtually non-existent today.

[briann]

If you guys havent figured it out yet... Odie is trying, by all his posts, to make Jews hate Christians.  Look through them.. and you will see that trend.   

[jdl4ever]

If you guys havent figured it out yet... Odie is trying, by all his posts, to make Jews hate Christians.  Look through them.. and you will see that trend.   

Yeah, I noticed that too.  Let this be his warning.

[Dr. Dan]

If you guys havent figured it out yet... Odie is trying, by all his posts, to make Jews hate Christians.  Look through them.. and you will see that trend.   

of course he is because he never responds to any of the posts...

but the truth is, I don't hate anyone unless they are evil..Jew or gentile.

[briann]

If you guys havent figured it out yet... Odie is trying, by all his posts, to make Jews hate Christians.  Look through them.. and you will see that trend.   

Yeah, I noticed that too.  Let this be his warning.

Thanks!!   The moderators here are great!!!

[SavetheWest]

I've noticed there are one or two new members (within the last 2 weeks) who have done a few things that are revealing.  They made fun of animal abuse, attacked Jonathan Pollard, mocked Christianity, talked about Jews killing random gentiles after the Holocaust, defended rap, promoted MTV and said other members were racist.  I didn't want to say anything before because maybe they meant something else or I may disagree with one or two points.  The combination of all those things is not the sign of a friend of JTF and its members.

[genteelgentile]

The Jews are hated by people who can't blow a shofar.  Jealous haters!

[bongoid]

Jews are hated because we are party poopers ! In ancient times,when you wanted to sacrifice your firstborn to Moloch to have a good harvest  or sleep with your sister the Jews said :"no no you can't do that " according to the law of G-d.
 Also they disrespected the Roman Emperor by saying that he should not F*(< little boys.Also they refused to worship him as a G-d.
 Also they refused to accept J*$u$  as the Messiah.
 Pretty much explains 4 thousand years of anti-Semitism.