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Scriabin:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 11, 2007, 04:40:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: gabrielle on January 11, 2007, 12:38:03 PM ---I don't know about the founding fathers but what you said Scriabin seems like common sense. Theres a difference between being able to vote and dressing and behaving immodestly.......why did they not think women should have the vote?
But its also some men that want women to behave slutty......its disgusting.
America and england are pretty bad when it comes to women behaving wrongly, thats why as a Muslim i think its the good to wear hijab and dress appropriately. Although in this case they over do it ....way too much.-especially with the black- i don't get it, theres like a million other colours- why black?
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I know you were "Sarah's" friend. So you are a Muslim too? Don't you know that Muslim men don't allow Muslim women to civilize them. Religious Jews and Righteous Gentiles are the perfect model. They are in the center. Other Westerners are too far Left and Muslims are too aggressively Right. We at JTF are the true moderates.
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Well put. Now we're discussing the real issue. :)
Lisa:
I'm a Jewish woman of Iranian descent, and I've frequently heard my mother and brother in law say that the wearing of the chador doesn't necessarily stop men and women from whoring around. They're just not as open about it.
The thing is that nowadays modesty in women is no longer considered a virtue. Unfortunately, women are encouraged in our popular culture to have lots of sex partners, and if they don't, they're considered damaged goods. One time, this college roommate of mine said right to my face that she heard men tell her that if a woman has not lost her virginity by a certain young age, then they think something is mentally and physically wrong with her. And mind you, this girl was in no position to talk, as she was at least 60 pounds overweight.
MarZutra:
I don't know, it is a very touchy subject. I feel if women wished to be ladies and took pride in the societal/family role of the woman and dropped this "feminism" ineptitude, the world would be a much better place. Women should not be treated like a stick of funiture but should be respected....but that doesn't go as far to advocate the outcome of feminism: "Progressive" CEO women looking down on house wives and their children with contempt and thoughts: "Look at her, what a total waste..."
Everything is gone out of wack... Just think, now we know what the Egyptians, Greeks, Righteous Jews in the days of Yahuda HaMaccabee and the Hellenists, Fall of Rome...... This hedonistic Humanism is the end of every advanced civilization....... Look even Israel "progressed" to have another filthy Arab in the Knesset. Tell me that is not insanity. Israel plans to bomb Iran, under democracy this Arab is entitled to know the plan.........the minute he does....so will Ahmedinajad. "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - Savage
adam613:
>The reason why feminism is destructive to Western Civilization is that it prevents women from doing their role of civilizing men.
If a woman thinks it is all in her power to civilze men she is going to become a feminist. Most men are decent to women because they were taught to respect women in some area's from the torah and other sources. Not because of women. I try to be fair and decent to decent peole because that is what g-d wants us to do. This never giving men (unless you are a famous man) credit is so evil. Also CIVILIZED? The Germans for very Civilized. If what Yacov is saying is true we might as way throw away the Torah and just ask women what we should do every second of the day. We see with Abraham and Sarah that Sarah knew what was better for Issac then Abraham did. Sarah of course was sincere and g-d told that she was right. What we learn from this is that in the end a women usually knows what is better from a child then men do. Of course this doesn't mean if a women says she doesn't want certain men you find out why to make sure she isn't just being a jerk. It's no different then a man that mentions certain figures that just because men are more fact and number oriented then women are doesn't mean that a women should just automatically believe it because a man could be lying and also being a jerk.
adam613:
Lisa Wrote:
>The thing is that nowadays modesty in women is no longer considered a virtue.
You seem to want to believe the worst in men, Lisa. THere are men like that Lisa but there are plenty of men that are intelligent enough to know Lisa that a women that has a lot of sex partners makes it more likely for them to get STD and it is more likely that the women will walk out of the marriage.
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