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DALMACIJA:
We must pay attention to a couple of factors:
We are dealing here with cultural differences.
You people who live in the US and Western Europe are used to freedom and that everything is allowed. Every region has his own mentality.
In Eastern Europe people are far more serious.
We just have a more serious menatlity. In Eastern Europe you can not express in public statements which are against the domestic people and the government.
Maybe in Western countries you have more of that kind of freedom in Russia it is different.
--- Quote from: briann on April 25, 2008, 01:11:32 PM ---
What??? just as long as they dont try and convert people???? Cummon, people are now being jailed for even discussing their non-orthodox religion with others. Russia is sliding towards fascism here.
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Your media is telling you that we are dealing with innocent discussions which have as content non-orthodox points of views.
But we can not avoid / not recognize the fact that there are some serious non- Orthodox sects and religions active in Russia whose intentions are to convert Russians!
This can not be tolerated by the Russian government.
Russia wants to prosecute missionary activities against Russian people.
That is not fascism! The Russian government is not organizing and preparing for example the biological exterminations of the non Orthodox communities of Russia!
You can not put fascism and Russia in the same context.
Italianpride877:
Well what do you expect, its russia
briann:
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But we can not avoid / not recognize the fact that there are some serious non- Orthodox sects and religions active in Russia whose intentions are to convert Russians!
This can not be tolerated by the Russian government.
Russia wants to prosecute missionary activities against Russian people.
That is not fascism! The Russian government is not organizing and preparing for example the biological exterminations of the non Orthodox communities of Russia!
You can not put fascism and Russia in the same context.
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No, thats fascism. I didnt say it was genocide. The two are not the same.
How can you not see that this is fascism? Jailing people for discussing a PEACEFUL non-orthodox religion to others IS fascism. If they were trying to promote or glorify naziism or Islam... Im ok with jailing them.. but ALL they are doing is discussing a peacful religion. nothing more.
Again, I have no problem with Russian isntitutions preaching/promoting orthodoxism, and your country making it an official religion (In spite of the fact that it would never happend in the west)
syyuge:
All those who are interested in conversions and propagations shall concentrate on Chechens and other Muslamics.
This will keep in control on the rising populations of Muslamics over all others. This may also check global terrorism to some extent.
With Regards... :)
DALMACIJA:
--- Quote from: briann on April 25, 2008, 02:25:41 PM ---How can you not see that this is fascism? Jailing people for discussing a PEACEFUL non-orthodox religion to others IS fascism.
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Fascists like violence and use genocidal methods to realize their purposes.
Russia is not a fascist country! It is maybe an authoritarian state but not a fascist or communist country. No Serb will ever think like that about Russia because it is just not true.
These are very serious happenings and the Russian authorities are today serious enough to stop the attacks against Russia from it's beginnings.
It looks all innocent but we Orthodox Christians have learned from history.
The Western nations are not to trust and history had proven that.
Russia and Serbia should not make the same mistakes from the past.
You should study our history than you will understand why we take the necessary actions. It would be much more understandable to you if you compare this with our history.
I saw some “innocent” events of protestants in Russia and they were openly practicing missionary activities. They were openly calling for the convert of the Russian people and insulting the Orthodox church in general. These activities should be strongly forbidden in Russia and Serbia!
If you give protestants and other non Orthodox communities to much rights you will lose control over them. If you give them a certain amount of freedom you will not know how they will use that freedom. I am repeating my self again in meetings of protestants which took place in Russia missionary activities were conducted. The consequence of this behavior is that those kind of meetings can not exist anymore in Russia.
I have nothing against protestants, Catholics or Muslims in Russia and Serbia as long as they respect the laws of the Russian/ Serbian state and act like a national minority.
But we can not tolerate missionary activities! Just like Israel is not tolerating it on their soil Russia should follow the same example!
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