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Putin picks a religion
AsheDina:
--- Quote from: RationalThought110 on April 25, 2008, 10:37:03 AM ---And expects his country to all have the same religion.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/world/europe/24church.html?em&ex=1209268800&en=e423283fb3e081d1&ei=5087%0A
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I dont even find this surprising. Russia will be a total communist nation in 2 yrs time, maybe less-- this happened FAST. He got in there- in 1998? This was FAST. How disturbing.
briann:
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on April 25, 2008, 12:31:59 PM ---I would be happy if Serbia had a president who was at least 50% like Vladimir Putin.
The policy of Putin is good towards Serbia.
Putin is first of all an Orthodox Christian man and a good president for his country under his policy Russia managed to become almost dept free. Vladimir Putin has no history of affairs or other immoral activities like other world leader have and this man condemns immoral behavior.
Putin is the first Russian president who has respect to the Orthodox Church and is reestablishing the traditional relationship between the two great Orthodox nations of Russia and Serbia.
We must not forgot that during the communist period, which took place in Serbia and Russia, our two nations were led by anti- Orthodox criminals! In those dark days we were controlled by a political movement which was created by our enemies.
I understand that American nationalists want a pro West regime in Russia, that's understandable.
I prefer a Russian nationalist and pro Orthodox government which will protect the interests of the Orthodox nations! For me a Serb Vladimir Putin is the symbol of Slavic strength and unity. I hope that Russia will restore it's pride and glory and that the other Slavic (orthodox) nations will follow the same example.
I like Jews and we Serbs have showed in history that we condemn anti Semitism!
But there is no Russia with out Serbia and there is also no Serbia with out Russia!
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Heres where I dissagree. I understand that Putin wants to protect his nation's interest, but by persecuting ALL non-orthodox religions... he is no better than the Muslims. (I know he's not as extreme, but still)
If, on the other hand.. he said.. I want to specifically persecute those who follow the violent and hatefull ideologies, such as Islam or Naziism, I'd be fine with his policies.
At any rate, I dont want to have Russia as our enemy if there is a WWIII. They have an extraordinary Nuke arsenal.
DALMACIJA:
--- Quote from: briann on April 25, 2008, 12:41:52 PM ---
Heres where I dissagree. I understand that Putin wants to protect his nation's interest, but by persecuting ALL non-orthodox religions... he is no better than the Muslims. (I know he's not as extreme, but still)
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Vladimir Putin wants to protect Russia and to keep Russia an Orthodox country.
In Russia Orthodoxism must stay the official religion.
Vladimir Putin is not persecuting other religions. Muslims, Catholics and Protestants are doing fine in Russia as long as they do not try to covert Russian people and behave as a national minority than there are no problems!
The problem is when sects and other religions want to expand their theorie among Russians or Serbians. Serbian and Russian nationalists will prosecute those who want to disturb the status of Christian Orthodoxism as the offical religion in Russia/ Serbia.
Just like Jews are not tolerating missionary activities of protestants and Catholics in Israel Russia will also not tolerate the same activities on Russian soil.
I hope that Serbia will also rise up such a policy in the Republic of Serbia.
Ben Yehuda:
I was watching Glenn Beck last night. An "expert" guest was discussing this matter with him. The expert claimed that mosques are going up in Russiar at an alarming rate [we should call it mosque cow] with the approval of Putin who is forming some kind of alliance with islam. I thought that would be interesting to our Serb friends who seem to think Russiar is a friend.
briann:
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on April 25, 2008, 12:49:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 25, 2008, 12:41:52 PM ---
Heres where I dissagree. I understand that Putin wants to protect his nation's interest, but by persecuting ALL non-orthodox religions... he is no better than the Muslims. (I know he's not as extreme, but still)
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Vladimir Putin wants to protect Russia and to keep Russia an Orthodox country.
In Russia Orthodoxism must stay the official religion.
Vladimir Putin is not persecuting other religions. Muslims, Catholics and Protestants are doing fine in Russia as long as they do not try to covert Russian people and behave as a national minority than there are no problems!
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What??? just as long as they dont try and convert people???? Cummon, people are now being jailed for even discussing their non-orthodox religion with others. Russia is sliding towards fascism here.
I have no problem with making an official religion, language, etc etc. But jailing people for discussing a peaceful religion is a step in the WRONG direction.
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