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Putin picks a religion
DALMACIJA:
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on April 28, 2008, 10:01:48 AM ---There are around 21 million Muslims in Russia. So please
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21 Muslims in Russia?
That is not true.
briann:
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on April 28, 2008, 03:53:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on April 28, 2008, 01:05:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: spiritus_persona on April 28, 2008, 12:22:55 AM ---Putin is a communist! Born as one, raised as one, and always will be one! He is the Lenin of today, and we should treat him like we treat Cuba!
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Communist? :::D
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Ambiorix,
respect for you inteligence.
You are maybe a Catholic but you did not have lost your sense for reality.
People who think that Putin is a communist are lying or have totally lost the reality.
Every Serb and Russian knows that the Western nations (Vatican) are the creators of this regressive, evil and most undemocratic political system which we know as communism. Socialism or communism has it's roots coming from the West and it was launched by the members of the two most dark international organizations of the whole world at Orthodox soil with the intent to commit the biological extermination against Orthodox civilizations.
To think that a Russian nationalist, who is in the first place an Orthodox Christian, would support an ideology which was created by the enemies of the Orthodox nations
is totally absurd and wrong.
Why is Vladimir Putin an communist according to some Americans here?
Because he was a member of the state's security during USSR? Being a former member of the security of the state, which does not exist today, does not mean that you are automatically a communist.
Communist are just like Bosnian Muslims( Muslim Serbs) and Croats (Catholic Serbs).
A communist has, just like a Croat, accepted an ideology (religion) of his enemies.
The inventors of communist were non Orthodox people so if a Slavic nation accepts communism it is just like if they have accepted Islam or Catholicism which are also ideologies of the enemies of the Orthodox nations.
So do not come with that Russia is a communist state or that Vladimir Putin is a communist. That does not sound realistic anymore and is becoming non sense and a serious insult towards the biggest Orthodox nation of the world, Russia.
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Putin isnt a communist. So far he's done very little to bring Russia back to its Communist self. BUT, that doesn't change the fact that he is an West hating despot.
Ambiorix:
--- Quote from: briann on April 28, 2008, 05:12:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on April 28, 2008, 03:53:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on April 28, 2008, 01:05:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: spiritus_persona on April 28, 2008, 12:22:55 AM ---Putin is a communist! Born as one, raised as one, and always will be one! He is the Lenin of today, and we should treat him like we treat Cuba!
--- End quote ---
Communist? :::D
--- End quote ---
Ambiorix,
respect for you inteligence.
You are maybe a Catholic but you did not have lost your sense for reality.
People who think that Putin is a communist are lying or have totally lost the reality.
Every Serb and Russian knows that the Western nations (Vatican) are the creators of this regressive, evil and most undemocratic political system which we know as communism. Socialism or communism has it's roots coming from the West and it was launched by the members of the two most dark international organizations of the whole world at Orthodox soil with the intent to commit the biological extermination against Orthodox civilizations.
To think that a Russian nationalist, who is in the first place an Orthodox Christian, would support an ideology which was created by the enemies of the Orthodox nations
is totally absurd and wrong.
Why is Vladimir Putin an communist according to some Americans here?
Because he was a member of the state's security during USSR? Being a former member of the security of the state, which does not exist today, does not mean that you are automatically a communist.
Communist are just like Bosnian Muslims( Muslim Serbs) and Croats (Catholic Serbs).
A communist has, just like a Croat, accepted an ideology (religion) of his enemies.
The inventors of communist were non Orthodox people so if a Slavic nation accepts communism it is just like if they have accepted Islam or Catholicism which are also ideologies of the enemies of the Orthodox nations.
So do not come with that Russia is a communist state or that Vladimir Putin is a communist. That does not sound realistic anymore and is becoming non sense and a serious insult towards the biggest Orthodox nation of the world, Russia.
--- End quote ---
Putin isnt a communist. So far he's done very little to bring Russia back to its Communist self. BUT, that doesn't change the fact that he is an West hating despot.
--- End quote ---
Every viewpoint is correct. It is not an easy black and white situation.
That is what makes it difficult to assess this situation.
Indeed, the West hates the former Soviet-empire and vice versa.
But I rather support a pro-Russian government, rather than a self-hating pro EU-Nato-USA government in Russia.
I know, Putin, is a new Bresnjev. But at the other hand , he is more a Tsar then a Secretary-General.
I believe Chodorkovsky and Yeltsin put the man in place, and that he actually never intended to become president.
I would like to see a better government for us, nationalists, and JTF-ers everywhere.
A hard-line Israeli/USA/Russian/European unity against the third world invaders would be fantastic.
But reality is not so easy.
So what I dislike about Putin, is that he is not radical enough on muzzies. But at the same time I understand much of Russia's policy, is defensive against the USA's ambition to control the Eurasian continent.
It doesn't matter if we label Russia as communist or capitalist.
These are exactly the same thing in the end.
But it is good to have a debate about this, as we are a forum on political issues.
I think the most totalitarian regimes currently are muslim, china, n-korea, and than EU.
The USA has lost its role as superpower, and is on a collision course.
What the USA needs is a radical conservative government, but, as we see now, all the candidates are anti-American.
It will become a third world banana republic in the coming decades.
We should never loose hope, and work together, to fight for our freedom.
Capitalism in the Western World (multinational corporations) are serving the same goals of one-world-government.
I believe every nation should be sovereign. People deserve better than the current neo-communist dictators.
FULL METAL JACKET:
--- Quote from: syyuge on April 28, 2008, 10:19:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on April 28, 2008, 10:01:48 AM ---USA more communist than Russia :::D O.K.
Putin was a nobody before the apartment bombings which the FSB staged to bring Putin into power. Who knew Putin before these bombings? Nobody. As soon is the bombings occured he had around 20 governors sign a petition to give all powers to Putin. The old Soviet coup worked. And he's still in power to day. The guy put a dummy in power.
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Sounds similar to the Muslamic propaganda that the West self bombed the WTC. As soon as the aero-bombings occurred they had the enhanced support for attacks on Muslamic Afghanistan and Iraq. The old Imperial coup worked. And he's still in operations to day. The guy will put a dummy in power. ;)
With Regards... :)
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That statement shows how little you know of whats going on in Russia. Please get informed before you comment on a such a topic.
The FSB were caught red handed in planting a bomb in an apartment building by residents. When the head of the FSB asked what was going in he said it was just a test exercise. How naive can one be?
Read about it yourself; here's a quick quote:
--- Quote ---The bombings ceased when a similar bomb was found and defused in an apartment block in the Russian city of Ryazan on September 23. Later in the evening Vladimir Putin praised the vigilance of the Ryzanians and ordered the air bombing of Grozny, which marked the beginning of the Second Chechen War.[2] A few hours later, three Federal Security Service (FSB) agents who had planted the bomb were caught by the local police. This incident was declared to be a training exercise by the FSB director Nikolai Patrushev.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on April 28, 2008, 03:57:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on April 28, 2008, 10:01:48 AM ---There are around 21 million Muslims in Russia. So please
--- End quote ---
21 Muslims in Russia?
That is not true.
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I should of noted the source; https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rs.html
140 million Russians; Muslims 10-15% percent. It's basic math.
briann:
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on April 28, 2008, 05:35:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 28, 2008, 05:12:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on April 28, 2008, 03:53:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ambiorix on April 28, 2008, 01:05:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: spiritus_persona on April 28, 2008, 12:22:55 AM ---Putin is a communist! Born as one, raised as one, and always will be one! He is the Lenin of today, and we should treat him like we treat Cuba!
--- End quote ---
Communist? :::D
--- End quote ---
Ambiorix,
respect for you inteligence.
You are maybe a Catholic but you did not have lost your sense for reality.
People who think that Putin is a communist are lying or have totally lost the reality.
Every Serb and Russian knows that the Western nations (Vatican) are the creators of this regressive, evil and most undemocratic political system which we know as communism. Socialism or communism has it's roots coming from the West and it was launched by the members of the two most dark international organizations of the whole world at Orthodox soil with the intent to commit the biological extermination against Orthodox civilizations.
To think that a Russian nationalist, who is in the first place an Orthodox Christian, would support an ideology which was created by the enemies of the Orthodox nations
is totally absurd and wrong.
Why is Vladimir Putin an communist according to some Americans here?
Because he was a member of the state's security during USSR? Being a former member of the security of the state, which does not exist today, does not mean that you are automatically a communist.
Communist are just like Bosnian Muslims( Muslim Serbs) and Croats (Catholic Serbs).
A communist has, just like a Croat, accepted an ideology (religion) of his enemies.
The inventors of communist were non Orthodox people so if a Slavic nation accepts communism it is just like if they have accepted Islam or Catholicism which are also ideologies of the enemies of the Orthodox nations.
So do not come with that Russia is a communist state or that Vladimir Putin is a communist. That does not sound realistic anymore and is becoming non sense and a serious insult towards the biggest Orthodox nation of the world, Russia.
--- End quote ---
Putin isnt a communist. So far he's done very little to bring Russia back to its Communist self. BUT, that doesn't change the fact that he is an West hating despot.
--- End quote ---
Every viewpoint is correct. It is not an easy black and white situation.
That is what makes it difficult to assess this situation.
Indeed, the West hates the former Soviet-empire and vice versa.
But I rather support a pro-Russian government, rather than a self-hating pro EU-Nato-USA government in Russia.
I know, Putin, is a new Bresnjev. But at the other hand , he is more a Tsar then a Secretary-General.
I believe Chodorkovsky and Yeltsin put the man in place, and that he actually never intended to become president.
I would like to see a better government for us, nationalists, and JTF-ers everywhere.
A hard-line Israeli/USA/Russian/European unity against the third world invaders would be fantastic.
But reality is not so easy.
So what I dislike about Putin, is that he is not radical enough on muzzies. But at the same time I understand much of Russia's policy, is defensive against the USA's ambition to control the Eurasian continent.
It doesn't matter if we label Russia as communist or capitalist.
These are exactly the same thing in the end.
But it is good to have a debate about this, as we are a forum on political issues.
I think the most totalitarian regimes currently are muslim, china, n-korea, and than EU.
The USA has lost its role as superpower, and is on a collision course.
What the USA needs is a radical conservative government, but, as we see now, all the candidates are anti-American.
It will become a third world banana republic in the coming decades.
We should never loose hope, and work together, to fight for our freedom.
Capitalism in the Western World (multinational corporations) are serving the same goals of one-world-government.
I believe every nation should be sovereign. People deserve better than the current neo-communist dictators.
--- End quote ---
The reason why we are losing the all-powerful superpower status is
a) The rest of the world's population is exploding.
b) when we were at our zenith (1950's) much of the world was under the darkness of communism and socialism, and therefore, our GNP was larger than the resto fo the world combined. Now that the rest of the world has fically emulated us, we can't possibly stay super-powerful.
No amount of utlra-conservatism or nationalism will stop these 2 factors. HOWEVER, nationalism CAN combat our cultural demise.
I think that is what we have to shoot for.
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