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Putin picks a religion
Ambiorix:
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--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on April 28, 2008, 10:01:48 AM ---USA more communist than Russia :::D O.K.
Putin was a nobody before the apartment bombings which the FSB staged to bring Putin into power. Who knew Putin before these bombings? Nobody. As soon is the bombings occured he had around 20 governors sign a petition to give all powers to Putin. The old Soviet coup worked. And he's still in power to day. The guy put a dummy in power.
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Sounds similar to the Muslamic propaganda that the West self bombed the WTC. As soon as the aero-bombings occurred they had the enhanced support for attacks on Muslamic Afghanistan and Iraq. The old Imperial coup worked. And he's still in operations to day. The guy will put a dummy in power. ;)
With Regards... :)
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That statement shows how little you know of whats going on in Russia. Please get informed before you comment on a such a topic.
The FSB were caught red handed in planting a bomb in an apartment building by residents. When the head of the FSB asked what was going in he said it was just a test exercise. How naive can one be?
Read about it yourself; here's a quick quote:
--- Quote ---The bombings ceased when a similar bomb was found and defused in an apartment block in the Russian city of Ryazan on September 23. Later in the evening Vladimir Putin praised the vigilance of the Ryzanians and ordered the air bombing of Grozny, which marked the beginning of the Second Chechen War.[2] A few hours later, three Federal Security Service (FSB) agents who had planted the bomb were caught by the local police. This incident was declared to be a training exercise by the FSB director Nikolai Patrushev.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on April 28, 2008, 03:57:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on April 28, 2008, 10:01:48 AM ---There are around 21 million Muslims in Russia. So please
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21 Muslims in Russia?
That is not true.
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I should of noted the source; https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rs.html
140 million Russians; Muslims 10-15% percent. It's basic math.
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Well let's hope the Russian state starts harassing them.
DALMACIJA:
--- Quote from: briann on April 28, 2008, 05:12:20 PM ---BUT, that doesn't change the fact that he is an West hating despot.
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The West launched communism on Serbia and Russia with the intend to destroy those two great Orthodox nations.
What do you expect of Russia and Serbia to be pro West?
briann:
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on April 29, 2008, 02:34:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 28, 2008, 05:12:20 PM ---BUT, that doesn't change the fact that he is an West hating despot.
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The West launched communism on Serbia and Russia with the intend to destroy those two great Orthodox nations.
What do you expect of Russia and Serbia to be pro West?
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Are you studying alternate history again???? How can you possibly revise history to say that the west spread communism there against the will of Russia.
(I can't wait for your answer) :)
Brian
DALMACIJA:
--- Quote from: briann on April 29, 2008, 03:07:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on April 29, 2008, 02:34:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on April 28, 2008, 05:12:20 PM ---BUT, that doesn't change the fact that he is an West hating despot.
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The West launched communism on Serbia and Russia with the intend to destroy those two great Orthodox nations.
What do you expect of Russia and Serbia to be pro West?
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Are you studying alternate history again???? How can you possibly revise history to say that the west spread communism there against the will of Russia.
(I can't wait for your answer) :)
Brian
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It is simple, we Serbs talk often about this how stupid we the Orthodox nations were in the 20 century.
In the beginning of the 20 century Russia started to expand very fast.
Russia under the rule of the Tsar occupied parts of today's Poland, Ukraine and other countries. In that time Russia had a serious chance to become the world power and the dominant factor of Europe. The neighboring/ surrounding nations of Russia, which were the Slavic nations, were inspired by the Russian strength and civilization and under those circumstances the Slavic nations would properly soon unite with Russia and form a strong Eastern block. If that would happen than Western Europe would not be able to realize their imperialistic ambitions towards the East and have the position of the most powerful factor in Europe and the world.
Western Europe, Vatican and the US saw Russia and the expansion of Russia as a serious threat. In contradiction to Russia the West and the US are a little more shrewd and less naive. Russians and Serbs are good but they think that others have also good intentions and the consequence of that is naive behavior.
Russia was to powerful so the West/ US and the Vatican were not able to physically attack and invade Russia. As alternative they planned to attack Russia from inside.
The West started to prepare and organize a civil war in Russia.
To stop the Russian domination and expansion the Vatican needed to, as soon as possible, create an athmosphere in Russia in which the Russians would start to kill each others.
They prepared intelligent and very shrewd men which would gain sympathy among the Russian people. Vladimir - Iljic - Lenin which was a non Orthodox person sent by the West to Russia with the intend to create a civil war in Russia. During Lenin's arrival in Russia (1917) brother wars started to took place among the Russians.
The reds (pro communists) and the whites (monarchist) started to kill each other like dogs.
- During the October revolution in Russia, the communists had killed about 30 million of the Orthodox Russians, and until the collapse of communism in 1989 55-60 million!
- In 1918 the communists under Lenin executed the Tsar and 2000 members of the Tsar's familiy!
The result of this was that Russia started to weak.
In the communist period the Russians were mentally, spiritually and economically totally destroyed and these effect will take place a couple of more centuries long.
If the communist revolution did not took place (succeed) in Russia in 1917 the today's population of Orthodox Russians in Russia would be approximately + 500.000.000 people.
briann:
Yes, everything you say is true except blaming the west for the bolshevic revolution. And you can't possibly believe that Russia and Serbia blame the west for the revolt.
The revolution happened as a result of many other factors. in 1917 the country was ripe for revolution. The people of Russia resented the Tsar Nicholas II and the corrupt and anachronistic government. (Im not saying the commies were better... but they hated the Tsar.. I know my grandfather's family hated him)
There was widespread inflation and food shortages in Russia and WWI was just the straw that broke the camels back. Now.. in retrospect.. it would have made sense for the west to keep the Commies from seizing control in 1918 ... but the west had just fought the mother of all wars, and was desperate to keep WWI from re-igniting.
Again.. there is no doubt that the communists (and the nazis) wiped out a HUGE portion of the russian population, and I think its the largest mass murder of a people in the history of the world. But saying that the Russain people blame the west for it is just not true.
Brian
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