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jdl4ever:
Cohanaechai, in my experience over 90% of Misnagdim believe the earth is billions of years old and if you speak to most educated Charedim who went to college, half of them would tell you the same.  You are the marginal group, not me.  The Catholics though mostly believe that it is not billions of years old in my experience. 

azrom:
I am a christian. I agree with jdl4ever about the earth being billions of years old. I don't agree with darwinism though.

jdl4ever:

--- Quote from: cohanechai on January 20, 2007, 09:21:37 PM ---well i wont argue with your impressions about the orthodox.

but tell me, what about the midrashic teaching that the world would only last for 6000 years, followed by 1000 years of rest?

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The midrash has many different opinions, many of which contradict.  One such opinion states that there were several worlds in existance before our world and another one says that at first G-d created a world with only judgement and destroyed it because the world needed mercy as well or everyone would suffer immediate retribution and die.  The quote you brought has nothing to do with anything since who says it is starting from creation, maybee it's starting from the end of creation when man was formed.

jdl4ever:

--- Quote from: cohanechai on January 20, 2007, 09:34:49 PM ---i agree. (by the way, explain how you can put a quote in a text box?).

but if the 6000 years refer to since man's creation, then that alone would disprove evolution, since they say men have existed for millions of years!  :P ???

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I'm sure you can figure this one out.  Modern man may have been around for millions of years, but Adam was special and he was the first biblically modern man.  Biblically, before Adam, ancient man was considred animals like apes and Adam was the first real man.  Either you can say that Adam was a separate creation because G-d gave him a soul (but physically was no different than ancient man living at that time) which I like OR you can say that Adam was somehow a unique evolutionary product that the bible considered to be a separate creation called man.  You can also combine the two into one belief and put some spin on it.   For example, all of ancient man was created by G-d to eventually evolve into Adam.  When he evolved, the language gene was formed and he had a mental capacity above any of his precursors.  Then G-d gave him a soul and he was became a new person since no creature had a soul.   Maybee all others similar to Adam died out so he was the only one at his time and could not find a mate. 

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