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Proofs For Young Earth
MassuhDGoodName:
Re: "...The Tanak was completed (Divinely inspired) approximately 2000 years ago. Was it not reliable?..."
Oh!
Well, why didn't you say that from the very beginning of your post?
That is all I would have needed to know in order to fully accept your argument.
Case closed.
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Christian Zionist:
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on January 11, 2007, 04:05:30 AM --- Let me ask you a question. Is it a more economical and brilliant way to create everything in the universe seperately in millions of creationary steps; or to design a process where a tiny spec is created and from that everything in the universe until the end of time falls into place exactly the way G-d wanted it to be to the extent that where you are standing now was planned by G-d to occur at the moment he created that tiny spec to expand into the universe.
--- End quote ---
Okay, you believe in the Bible of the liberals, humanists, atheists and communists. I believe in the Bible inspired by the Divine Spirit. Why do liberal news reporters do not report evidences against evolution? It is their agenda not to report anything against evolution, homosexuality, abortion, global warming etc. I do not trust liberals. If some theory had inspired hitler, karl marx, stalin and other evil men I cannot believe in that. The so called scientists are liberals and they give us biased information.
The bottom line is, you do not want to believe in the supernatural miracle working power of G-d. I believe you also would provide "scientific" proofs about Noah's flood, 10 plagues in Egypt, parting the red sea, Joshua stoping the Sun and Moon, Elijah ascending to heaven in fiery chariots, Ezekiel's suprenatural visions etc.
One more important thing about the evolutionists is they focus attacking only the Bible and not the muslim Koran. They avoid attacking Islam and concentrate on Judaism and Christianity. This is how the mind of an evolutionist works. You were unhappy and expressed your displeasure when I posted that pig pictures thread. But when it comes to the truth of Torah you do not want to defend it but try to compromise the Torah truth with the beliefs of liberals.
Here is your reply to my post in the Islam section:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?PHPSESSID=e8990dd54dad6fe629a0847b81a42d2d&topic=752.msg6695#msg6695
jdl4ever:
Christian Zionist, all of your arguments have absolutely zero logical structure to them. When I argued with you I logically defended my position by bringing excellent proof from the bible and I clearly debunked some of your fake scientific arguements for being wrong. All you bring to counter my arguments is calling me an evil athiest liberal since I don't accept your interpuitation. Name calling is not a logical argument. I am still waiting for that scientific proof of the young earth since so far you provided silly claims. The so called expert that said the moon has young radioactive isotopes did not know basic high school chemistry that these isotopes are made from radioactive decay of long lived isotopes. What more do you want?
Just because liberals study science does not mean that it is false. Richeous people are also scientists. Would you not take your child to get vaccinated against hepatitis A because it was achieved through scientific discovery? I do believe that the flood happened since I believe that the bible is the word of G-d so it must have happened and I do believe there is scientific proof of it occuring. I saw an episode on channel 13 about this a while ago. I also don't appreciate you calling me a muslim lover or an athiest since I am a richeous orthodox Jew who believes in Judaism, G-d and the bible and I do not like muslims.
By the way, the theory of an old earth is not new. Over a thousand years ago there existed a few ancient jewish commentaries that stated that our world was not the first world and one day to G-d is like a thousand of our years etc. Rashi (10th century) even says that G-d created everything on the first day and put everything into place afterwards (this is exactly like the big bang theory). Maimonites said that the biblical account of creation is allegorical and the real meaning is a deep secret which no one can completely understand and this is derived from the talmud.
Muck DeFuslims:
Anyone that believes the Earth is less than 10,000 years (as measured by man's perspective on planet Earth) old is ignorant.
If you believe the universe is less than 10,000 years old you're a fool.
A thorough, comprehensive understanding of Genesis as depicted in the Bible indicates the universe is approximately 16 billion years old.
The account of creation in Genesis doesn't contradict modern science's version or timetable of creation, it supports it.
Don't take my word for it.
Take the word of the Rambam, Ramban and other sages.
Take the word of reknown physicist and religious Jew, Dr. Gerald Schroeder.
Listen and learn for yourself:
mms://ra.colo.idt.net/simpletoremember/misc/Dr_Gerald_Schroeder-Genesis_and_the_Big_Bang.mp3
yephora:
Jewish opinion, no matter how revered, is not divinely inspired. Only the Bible (not ‘bible’) is.
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