Author Topic: Scientology? (Read 2675 times)

White Israelite · « **on:** May 29, 2008, 08:56:28 AM »

So what exactly is Scientology? I been researching it for about 3 hours and I still don't understand what it's all about or why anyone would join this religion? I guess it was started by some failed science fiction guy named Hubbard and he said if you wanted to make a lot of money, to start a religion. I know Tom Cruise is a member of Scientology but what exactly is so controversial about them and why do they sue people who try to question or expose them?

Dr. Dan · « **Reply #1 on:** May 29, 2008, 09:28:00 AM »

Quote from: מאיר כהן on May 29, 2008, 08:56:28 AM

So what exactly is Scientology? I been researching it for about 3 hours and I still don't understand what it's all about or why anyone would join this religion? I guess it was started by some failed science fiction guy named Hubbard and he said if you wanted to make a lot of money, to start a religion. I know Tom Cruise is a member of Scientology but what exactly is so controversial about them and why do they sue people who try to question or expose them?

This episode of south park will explain it in a nutshell...

http://www.southparkzone.com/episodes/912/Trapped-in-the-Closet.html

spiritus_persona · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2008, 09:36:13 AM »

Scientology is, to sum it up in one sentence, "A science fiction cult that is still being written." That's my own words.

Kacen · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2008, 09:51:47 AM »

Scientology is a fraud made by a bigoted science fiction writer as a scam to get money.

That's all there is to say.

Rubystars · « **Reply #4 on:** May 29, 2008, 09:53:35 AM »

Scientology kills people. People have died from being abused and murdered on their Sea Org trips and also because they told psychotic people not to take their medicines. Not only do they kill, but they take every last penny someone has. They even convinced an elderly person to mortgate her debt-free home.

Rubystars · « **Reply #5 on:** May 29, 2008, 09:55:29 AM »

People believe in it because of the spiritual vacuum that C.F. was talking about a while back that leads people to worship Obama.

Basically they claim that they can cure you of all addictions and other problems, that all these problems are caused by body thetans, which they can clear you of. Then there are the upper levels where they learn all kinds of freaky things like "Xenu".

Did you see the South Park episode about it? It's a very accurate description of their beliefs.

White Israelite · « **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2008, 10:02:09 AM »

Quote from: Rubystars on May 29, 2008, 09:55:29 AM

People believe in it because of the spiritual vacuum that C.F. was talking about a while back that leads people to worship Obama.

Basically they claim that they can cure you of all addictions and other problems, that all these problems are caused by body thetans, which they can clear you of. Then there are the upper levels where they learn all kinds of freaky things like "Xenu".

Did you see the South Park episode about it? It's a very accurate description of their beliefs.

Holy crap, they have their own cruise ship?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freewinds

underthesun · « **Reply #7 on:** May 29, 2008, 10:06:30 AM »

I think scientology did not claim to be a religion at the start. It is said that when they got law problems they decided to become a "religion".

White Israelite · « **Reply #8 on:** May 29, 2008, 10:06:41 AM »

According to wikipedia, there is a Church Of Scientology in Israel? That's bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_scientology#Israel

Israel

In Israel, according to Israeli professor of psychology Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi, "in various organizational forms, Scientology has been active among Israelis for more than thirty years, but those in charge not only never claimed the religion label, but resisted any such suggestion or implication. It has always presented itself as a secular, self-improvement, tax-paying business."[87] Those "organizational forms" include a Scientology Organization in Tel Aviv. Another Israeli Scientology group called "The Way to Happiness" (or "Association for Prosperity and Security in the Middle East") works through local Scientologist members to promote The Way to Happiness.[88] An Israeli CCHR chapter runs campaigns against abuses in psychiatry[89]. Other Scientology campaigns, such as "Youth for Human Rights International" are active as well.[90] There is also an ultra-Orthodox Jewish group that opposes Scientology and other religions in Israel[91], Lev L'Achim, whose anti-missionary department in 2001 provided a hotline and other services to warn citizens of Scientology's "many types of front organizations".[92]

Ulli · « **Reply #9 on:** May 29, 2008, 10:10:59 AM »

They are totally nuts.

They believe, that little ghosts are on our Skin and we have to get rid of them to reach "Clear".

They have different methods to reach higher steps of "Clear".

I think the highest is the "Operating Tetan"

The founder of this cult was a horror and SciFi book author. His name was Hubbard.

mord · « **Reply #10 on:** May 29, 2008, 10:15:55 AM »

It should be banned this cult

White Israelite · « **Reply #11 on:** May 29, 2008, 10:19:34 AM »

I'm really amazed that their able to generate so much money and were able to pull it off as a religion to get tax exempt status.

underthesun · « **Reply #12 on:** May 29, 2008, 10:24:13 AM »

By the way:

The US complained about not enough freedom of religion in Germany, because Germany doesn't recognize
1. Sientologie,
2. Islam,
3. Je.... Witnesses
as Churches.

Rubystars · « **Reply #13 on:** May 29, 2008, 10:25:58 AM »

OT Debug Service Intro Package * $4,951.28
Additional accommodation for OT Debug Service Intro Package $925.00/week
OT Hatting Info Package * $1,810.78
OT Millennium Convention Package * $2,675.00
Command of Theta OT Hatting Course $500.00
Doctorate Course for OTs $2,160.00
New OT VIII - Truth Revealed course $10,000.00

Frank Cohen · « **Reply #14 on:** May 30, 2008, 06:31:53 PM »

Quote from: Rubystars on May 29, 2008, 10:25:58 AM

OT Debug Service Intro Package * $4,951.28
Additional accommodation for OT Debug Service Intro Package $925.00/week
OT Hatting Info Package * $1,810.78
OT Millennium Convention Package * $2,675.00
Command of Theta OT Hatting Course $500.00
Doctorate Course for OTs $2,160.00
New OT VIII - Truth Revealed course $10,000.00

all the fees in total from dianetics to OT 8 is around $320,000. A religion costs over $300,000, wow.

JTFFan · « **Reply #15 on:** May 30, 2008, 07:05:09 PM »

Quote from: mord on May 29, 2008, 10:15:55 AM

It should be banned this cult

Completely agree

firster555 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 30, 2008, 07:53:55 PM »

Dr. Dan and Rubystars beat me to it, actually, that episode of South Park will explain it perfectly. Actually, it is probably wierder in reality than they show on the episode. Yes, it is wierd, but I have never known it to be violent unless I missed something, not defending it, just saying I never knew it to be violent like islime.

White Israelite · « **Reply #17 on:** June 01, 2008, 12:59:16 AM »

Quote from: firster555 on May 30, 2008, 07:53:55 PM

Dr. Dan and Rubystars beat me to it, actually, that episode of South Park will explain it perfectly. Actually, it is probably wierder in reality than they show on the episode. Yes, it is wierd, but I have never known it to be violent unless I missed something, not defending it, just saying I never knew it to be violent like islime.

Yeah they supposedly covered up murders, check this out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rCGP-0545EU

Youtube censoring anti-scientology videos (sound familiar guys?)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NmgQHYChrPw

Blue asbestos found on Scientology cruise ship and they tried to cover it up

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Whhlq_C4UPQ&feature=related

Scientology: The Freewinds and Blue Asbestos PART 1/6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SR6XZGSR_-E&feature=related

Scientology: The Freewinds and Blue Asbestos PART 2/6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=87VHxHzl0Ls&feature=related

Scientology: The Freewinds and Blue Asbestos PART 3/6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CwjZzMn-O4A&feature=related

Scientology: The Freewinds and Blue Asbestos PART 4/6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8tCLpBLK1Bk&feature=related

Scientology: The Freewinds and Blue Asbestos PART 5/6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A-Aw1njm9zQ&feature=related

Scientology: The Freewinds and Blue Asbestos PART 6/6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JFw2dm6xLbY&feature=related

Scientologys military/SEA ORG
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R8NCcS9imSQ

Scientology explained in a nutshell on South Park
http://allsp.com/l.php?id=e137

Scientology security guards taking pictures of people (the guy who shot this supposedly was murdered)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qLZJBdvqAv8

Scientology avoids questions and accuses everyone of crimes/crazy followers
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pPol_m8wm8Y&feature=related

SavetheWest · « **Reply #18 on:** June 01, 2008, 05:36:33 AM »

They are very scary. Youtube allows them to have thier own channel. They call anti scientologists "seditious persons" and have a "fair game" policy where anything is allowed to be done to their critics. They perpetrated the largest government infiltration (other than the Muzzies are doing right now) from a religious organization. They got inside the IRS and then were able to push them to make Scientology a tax exemped organization in the USA. They use phrases like, "what are you afraid of?" and "what are your sins?" like some body snatchers cult to their enemies. If you publicly criticize them, they've been known to accuse people of child molestation and harrass them at home and when they arrive at the airport.

Bruicy Kibbutz · « **Reply #19 on:** June 01, 2008, 07:07:23 AM »

Well... think of it like this becuz if ur a scientologist ur not technicly a muslim anymore.