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Pre-Marital sex. What is your take??
nessuno:
You are so right Dan!
We do seem to be in big trouble.
We are unprepared to make sacrifices - even for the sake of morality and religious beliefs.
The anything goes/feel good attitude is killing us.
Rubystars:
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--- Quote from: Rubystars on June 13, 2008, 01:41:14 AM ---Not to get too graphic but you can't know for sure whether someone is a virgin or not simply based on a certain thing being intact or not. It can be broken in many nonsexual ways.
When I hear of the price that "non virgins" have to pay in Arab countries, I always think of a young virgin girl having sex with her husband for the first time, the first man she's ever had sex with, maybe even someone she loves, and everything going suddenly, horrible wrong, with him accusing her of not being a virgin (wrongly) because there's no "blood on the sheets" and no intact you-know-what when he does you know what.
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I agree with you rubystars. This whole idea is not something I am comfortable with. How could someone throw his bride out simply because she was not a virgin? I am sure these types of marriages won't last anyways as he clearly couldn't give a damn about her.
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I don't see what the big deal is over that being intact anyway since it's going to be broken the first night if she does have it intact. :::D What about the decades following?
Rubystars:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 13, 2008, 02:16:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on June 13, 2008, 02:01:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rubystars on June 13, 2008, 01:41:14 AM ---Not to get too graphic but you can't know for sure whether someone is a virgin or not simply based on a certain thing being intact or not. It can be broken in many nonsexual ways.
When I hear of the price that "non virgins" have to pay in Arab countries, I always think of a young virgin girl having sex with her husband for the first time, the first man she's ever had sex with, maybe even someone she loves, and everything going suddenly, horrible wrong, with him accusing her of not being a virgin (wrongly) because there's no "blood on the sheets" and no intact you-know-what when he does you know what.
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I agree with you rubystars. This whole idea is not something I am comfortable with. How could someone throw his bride out simply because she was not a virgin? I am sure these types of marriages won't last anyways as he clearly couldn't give a damn about her.
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It should be discussed before the wedding. I would never marry a woman unless I first knew she was a virgin.
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What if she WAS a virgin, but didn't have an intact hymen because she was born without one, or it broke in a nonsexual way? Would you accuse her of lying to you and divorce her and not believe her?
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on June 12, 2008, 02:50:52 PM ---Yacov, I think that is something which would take place in a Utopian world. I went to a modern orthodox yeshiva in the five towns for high school and I can tell you that you would be very disappointed at what people did there, to say the least. I don't think any of the girls there would of been acceptable for you by the time they graduated.
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DownwithIslam, G-d expects more from you than the hypocrites. Just because they are frauds doesn't mean that we can't save ourselves for marriage. The Bible commands it for Jews and Gentiles.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on June 12, 2008, 02:57:58 PM ---well there are some nuts out there who beleive in it and make the act of sex an unwanted sin. It obviously isn't
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Yeah, like the Shaker cult (dying out now, for obvious reasons).
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