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Catholicism: the world's biggest cult?
Allen-T:
Regardless of the faults and flaws that exist in both "organised religion" and Bible based church/synagogue leadership, I really wish people would stop and think for a minute before they start posting things that clearly have the potential to offend members of JTF. I could rant for hours about Catholic history, I know it well, but there are absolutely 100% Jesus loving christians within that system, and some of them are right here. When you irresponsably post things like the title of this thread you are putting others in a position to respond in ways that will probably contain even more irresponsable and unnecessary provacation. There are no good muslims, we know that. But there are good and bad Jews and Christians of every type and also Noahides[I admit I don't know what this is but it's obviously embraced here] So I am starting to wonder if there just shouldn't be some sort of banning on these subjects, period. What difference does it make whether Rome is a huge cult IF NO ONE IS PUSHING SUCH BELIEFS HERE?? The church that I have attended for years has been taking huge leaps to the left, so much so that I am sitting home right now, Sunday morning at 11:39 am instead of being in church, because I need to find a new place to worship. What if it were public knowlege where I worship? Would it make any sense to attack that place even in a truthful way if I am not pushing their socialist agenda here? And it could give people a wrong impression about me. If I were a weaker person I might just up and leave[G-d forbid]. I am kinda ranting off the top of my head, maybe I am missing something but I don't think so. :-\
sat_chit_anand:
Allen, I do agree with you really and I hope that you are not referring to my post.
Until Shiloh Comes:
--- Quote from: Chaimfan on January 30, 2007, 03:08:04 AM ---Jimmy, I recognize you have a real point. I call upon the many noble and decent Catholic brothers and sisters who I know do not support the policies of the Vatican to pressure their pontiff and his circle for real reform. I am bothered that strict Catholic theology teaches that the church is never, ever wrong, so I am not quite sure how effective that will be, but the effort must be made, and Lord willing, someday it will have a real impact.
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Hello my friend, and good day.
Chaimfan, I sympathize with your opinion and stated point of view completely. The horrific history of the Catholic Church leaves me, just as it does you, more than a little bit wary of their direction, and agenda. And nobody is probably tougher on Catholicism than the Protesting Catholics who refer to themselves as Protestants. The question that's been brought up here by some posters is a legitimate one: Does the Catholic Church accurately reflect upon its members?
I think I have to agree with Jimmy on this one. I don't believe the Holy Sea/Rome and their agenda is what most ethnic Catholics have in their heart, and I hope and pray that they can influence their leaders to the right thing, as opposed to their leaders negatively influencing their members. The current Pope has already done some odd things, and I doubt he'll be a real friend to the Jewish people, but that doesn't mean we should group Bible-believing Catholics together with their spiritual leaders. This is one of the rare occasions where we shouldn’t apply guilt by association.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Fruit of thy loins:
--- Quote from: sat_chit_anand on April 15, 2007, 10:28:06 AM ---Well, why does a religion need a bank?
What about the Jesuits? Nice people?
Money and power can be a corrupting influence.
My feeling is that although Roman Catholicism is not all bad, it does not measure up to Presbyterianism or the Pentecostals, for instance, who do not have such a technocratic stucture. The power of the message is evident in Catholicism, but I simply cannot trust an organisation with that much money, power, influence.
That said, the Church of England's (protestant) Archbishops are really political appointments. They are not really appointed by the Head of State (King or Queen).
Margaret Thatcher appointed Archbishop Carey to bring Britain in line with America's evangelical movement, the positivism of which was supposed to somehow link in with her radical free-market reforms.
Tony Blair appointed Rt. Rev. John Sentamu, the Archbishop of York:
He is probably a decent fellow, but I am no doubt that his appointment was politically motivated and engineered by Britain's neo-Marxists.
Unless Anglican clergymen adhere to 'partiinost', they do not receive promotion.
The Catholic Church in Britain, by contrast, is independent of the Government, so their message is often better on a number of issues, most recently that of 'gay adoption'.
The Presbyterian Church in Scotland and Northern Ireland is more independent still, and these are the sorts of ministries which Communists fear the most...
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At least that ugly [censored] doesn't have a white wife, yet. But who knows how many white women he's had, from stripclubs and so on. :o http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/06/18/nbish18.xml
sat_chit_anand:
--- Quote ---At least that ugly schvartza doesn't have a white wife, yet. But who knows how many white women he's had, from stripclubs and so on. :o http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/06/18/nbish18.xml
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Aye.
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