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Gen Wesley Clark war criminal
« on: July 01, 2008, 10:05:38 AM »
who enjoyed bombing Serbian civilians is a big supporter of obama 



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Following Clark Comments, McCain Camp Launches "Truth Squad"
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Yesterday on "Face The Nation," retired Gen. Wesley Clark, an advocate for Barack Obama, said, "I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president."

He was taking about presumptive GOP nominee John McCain, whom he had earlier complimented as "a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war." Despite that service, Clark said, McCain "hasn't held executive responsibility."

"That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded wasn't a wartime squadron," Clark said. "[McCain] hasn't been there and ordered the bombs to fall." In another interview, Clark called McCain "untested and untried."

This morning, the McCain campaign held a conference call to respond to Clark's comments. The campaign said the purpose of the call was to launch the "McCain Truth Squad" – "a new group aimed at countering the recent attacks on John McCain’s military record."

Sen. John Warner, POWs Col. Bud Day and Lt.Col. Orson Swindle, McCain foreign policy advisor Bud McFarland, and Carl Smith, a retired Navy pilot who served with McCain, participated in the call.

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers stopped short of calling on Obama to condemn Clark's remarks, though he said "it would be great" if Obama did. (Warner suggested that Obama apologize to McCain for Clark's comments.)

The participants in the call suggested that the Obama campaign was orchestrating comments of this type concerning McCain's record.

"If the opposing candidate doesn't really have experience or knowledge of depth in international affairs, then one approach can be, I suppose, to deny that Sen. McCain does," said McFarland.

"The Obama campaign seemed to be soliciting these kinds of attacks from surrogates," said Swindle.

"It's clear there's a pattern here," added Rogers. "It's not an isolated incident."

Invoked on the call were comments by senior Obama advisor Gen. Merrill A. McPeak, who said that McCain was a "skinny kid" after being released from a POW camp but has "done very well at the dinner table in Washington."

Day, who was a member of the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth, said that he is "well aware of what the commencement of these kind of personal attacks can lead to."

"John was slandered and reviled in the 2000 campaign in a way that denigrated his service enormously, and in my view was probably one of the reasons why he was not the President of the United States in 2000," he said.

Swindle suggested that comments about McCain's record were designed to confuse "those who do not know better" – among them the young voters who support Obama.
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Re: Gen Wesley Clark war criminal
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 10:15:57 AM »
Clark is a mental case wanted ww3                     





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 Wesley Clark Wesley Clark has the most impressive resume of any candidate since, well, Bill Clinton -- first in his class at West Point, Rhodes Scholar, Masters in Economics at Oxford, decorated veteran, 4-star general, commander of NATO forces during the war in Kosovo. By all accounts, he is very bright, very energetic, and -- many people say -- also brusque, arrogant, and prone to piss people off. Is he Clinton without the scandals, or another over-achieving bundle of trouble from Arkansas?
In any case, he is also, apparently, brave. Besides the fact that he actively served in the military, was wounded, received several medals and rose to the top of the ranks, we have the anecdotes of Richard Holbrooke, the former Ambassador to the United Nations and before that Clark's boss at the Dayton Peace Accord negotiations.

Holbrooke says that he dared Wesley Clark and Joe Kruzel to dive into the Adriatic Sea from the 3rd story window of their hotel in Split, Croatia, and both did. He also tells of a severe car crash on the dangerous road to Sarajevo, where a car full of American negotiators went off the road, fell several hundred feet down a gorge, and burned, igniting lots of ammunition in the car. Clark rappelled down amidst the flames and bullets and rescued two people (2 others died.)



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Military Record -- Starting World War III?
Clark had an extremely successful career in the Army. Besides rising to the rank of 4-star general and commander of NATO forces, leading the war in Kosovo (which we won in 78 days without a single casualty), he is said to be the most decorated veteran since Dwight D. Eisenhower. Clark has received the following medals: a Silver Star, 2 Bronze Stars, a Distinguished Service medal, a Defense Distinguished Service medal, a 2 Meritorious Service medals, 4 Legion of Merit Medals, 2 Army Commendation medals, and a Purple Heart.

But that doesn't mean that his record is uncriticized. The Clinton administration cut short his stint as NATO commander by 3 months after repeated conflicts with the Army (he wanted more Apache combat helicopters in Kosovo) and with Michael Jackson (the British General, not the child-craving singer), who was commanding British forces there. Generally speaking, Clark wanted to pursue the war more aggressively than those he beefed with.

At the very end of the war, after Slobodan Milosevic finally gave up under withering NATO bombing, Russia demanded that they control a section of Kosovo, though they weren't (then) in NATO. (Russia has traditionally been a close ally of the Serbians, whose attacks on Albanians in Kosovo triggered this war, and Albanians rightly feared living under a Russian controlled, pro-Serbian government.) Clark flatly refused any Russian control, and -- despite promising not to -- the Russians sent 200 troops to take over Kosovo's main airport, as a power play.

Clark, who had negotiated with Milovic, Serbia and Russia in the Dayton Peace Accords, was determined not to let that ploy work. With the approval of Javier Solana, the NATO leader, he ordered British troops to occupy the other end of the airport -- where there were few if any Russian troops -- and prevent Russia from flying in more troops to build up their presence. British general Michael Jackson refused in a way Clark called "emotional."

The way Jackson tells the story, he told Clark "I'm not going to start the Third World War for you." That's a great sound-bite, but it seems a bit overblown considering this was a post-Soviet-collapse force of 200 soldiers. (Jackson is a charismatic but controversial British figure, known to his troops as "the Prince of Darkness." He was the British second in command during the "Bloody Sunday" massacre in 1972, when British troops killed 13 unarmed Irish protestors.)

NATO forces in Kosovo had an unusual structure -- they were under Clark's command, but the countries involved could veto the use of their troops in a given engagement, and most of the ground troops were actually British. So when Jackson refused to move his troops to the airport, there wasn't much Clark could do, militarily. (As it turned out, the U.S. convinced Hungary to deny Russian jets flyover rights, so they were not able to reinforce troops anyway. After a standoff, Russia backed down and they never did control a part of Kosovo.) Click here for sources


Involved in the Waco Raid?
There are lots of allegations on the Internet -- though not really in any reputable publication -- that Wesley Clark was involved in the raid of David Koresh's cult compound in Waco, Texas, which ended in a catastrophic fire that killed 75 cult members. (4 federal ATF agents had been killed by the cult, and 16 wounded, at the start of the standoff.)

The raid was carried out by FBI agents, but it has been established that Texas Governor Anne Richards consulted with a military official at Fort Hood, Texas (where Clark was stationed at the time), that 2 military officials from Fort Hood met with Attorney General Janet Reno's staff in Washington before the raid, and the Fort Hood provided military equipment including tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles to the FBI raiders. This much is pretty well documented fact.

A link to Clark is not. For one thing, the people alleging such links are pretty much all conspiracy types falling into one of three categories: liberal anti-war types, conservative conspiracy types, and Serbian-Americans stilled pissed over Kosovo.

More importantly, the evidence just isn't there. They best they can do is claim that the Army secretly carried out the raid (though even anti-Waco films show FBI agents driving the tanks and carrying out the raid), or that the two military officers who went to Washington are unknown, but it might have been Clark. Most don't even try that hard, just blindly asserting that Clark ran the whole raid and loves to butcher people.

In fact, even critic Alexander Cockburn -- the most reasonable of these critics, an anti-war liberal who is furious with Clark for being so mean to the Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs -- concedes that Clark was not one of the two military men. They were actually Colonel Gerald Boykin (recently in the news for saying publicly that the war on terrorism is a war between Jesus and Islam/Satan), and his superior, Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the head of Special Forces at Fort Bragg And the military official that Anne Richards consulted with was Clark's assistant, not him. Click here for sources


Corporate Shill
Striving to be a reformer, Clark has (justifiably) attacked corporations seeking tax breaks by moving their headquarters from the US to Bermuda and other off-shore locations. But just last year, when he was a director at Stephens Investment Co., they bought 75,000 shares of Tyco Corporation which did exactly that. (The investment has paid off well, too, as their stock has risen substantially since the purchase.) Click here for sources
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Sources
"Waging Modern War: Bosnia, Kosovo and the Future of Combat," (book) by Wesley Clark (2001). Chapter 15 is entirely about the incident with the Russian troops and General Jackson.
"TO END A WAR" (book), by RICHARD HOLBROOKE, chapter 1


Military Record Sources

"War in a Time of Peace: Bush, Clinton, and the Generals" (book) by David Halberstam (Scribners, 2002)
"Robertson's plum job in a warring Nato", The Guardian Newspaper (London) August 3, 1999

Interview with Wesley Clark, The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, PBS-TV, June 15, 2003

"Sources: Top NATO commanders clashed over Russians' actions in Kosovo", by Jamie Macintyre and Reuters News Service, CNN News, August 2, 1999

"Bloody Sunday paratroopers win anonymity" by David Pallister and John Mullin, The Guardian newspaper (London), June 18, 1999

"Clark and Pristina Airfield", Antidotal Website: Fair and Balanced Coverage to Fight the Poison, by Eric Tam, September 15, 2003

"Late-Arriving Candidate Got Push From Clintons", By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE, New York Times, September 19, 2003


Waco Sources
"Was Clark at Waco?", by alexander cockburn and jeffrey st. clair, CounterPunch Magazine, 1999
"Waco Update: The Delta Force Was There", by alexander cockburn and jeffrey st. clair, CounterPunch Magazine, June 1, 1999


Here's a rebuttal by a pro-Clark blogger:
"The Facts", by "newberry", The ClarkSphere, September 3, 2003

"INTERIM REPORT TO THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL CONCERNING THE 1993 CONFRONTATION AT THE MT. CARMEL COMPLEX, WACO, TEXAS", by Senator John Danforth, JULY 21, 2000

Huge Collection of Newspaper and Magazine Articles on Waco, Center For Studies on New Religions

"UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE REPORT ON THE EVENTS AT WACO, TEXAS FEBRUARY 28 TO APRIL 19, 1993" (aka the Scruggs Report), by Richard Scruggs, Assistant to the Attorney General, October 8, 1993 (redacted version)

"THE WACO ADVISORY VERDICT", By SOLOMON WISENBERG, Findlaw Website Commentary, July 18, 2000


Corporate Shill Sources

Clark’s possible link to Tyco questioned, By KEVIN LANDRIGAN, Nashua, New Hampshire Telegraph, October 24, 2003

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Re: Gen Wesley Clark war criminal
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 10:28:16 AM »
Wesley Clark should be the one tried at the Hague Tribunal!

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 10:34:44 AM »
Wesley Clark should be the one tried at the Hague Tribunal!
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 11:33:36 PM »
I did not know Clark isthat bad!
Well done Mord!

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2008, 07:07:57 AM »
I did not know Clark isthat bad!
Well done Mord!
He's also Jewish on his fathers side >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 08:09:35 AM »
Is  Wesley Clark seven days adventist or something like that ?

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2008, 08:16:32 AM »
Is  Wesley Clark seven days adventist or something like that ?
No heres more about criminal clark                 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/970183/posts
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Re: Gen Wesley Clark war criminal
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2008, 04:38:34 PM »
Wesley Clark should be the one tried at the Hague Tribunal!
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You both just forget that the Hague tribunal is illegall. He should be tried at the Court of Justice at the Hague, which is not the same, but legal this one.

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 09:14:56 AM »
Wesley Clark is  a lecherous old man- ALTER KUCKER!