Criticizing Judaism/other religions.

[DownwithIslam]

I am not sure why people keep on making it like their is more than one person making the personal attacks. Both Chaimfan and Mord have been personally attacked in the shas thread. Their is only one person making the attacks so this whole blaming everyone equally attitude that some take is not helpful at all and pisses me off.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Agreed. This thread was not even addressed to that member, primarily. I started this thread and had many long exchanges with KWRBT in it that were completely civil, on both sides, as well as several shorter exchanges with a few others. Then, late last night, a certain poster saw this thread and found it personally intolerable. I was accused of, among other things, defaming the Talmud on this forum (lol).

That is what went on, Lisa and Dan.

[Dr. Dan]

Agreed. This thread was not even addressed to that member, primarily. I started this thread and had many long exchanges with KWRBT in it that were completely civil, on both sides, as well as several shorter exchanges with a few others. Then, late last night, a certain poster saw this thread and found it personally intolerable. I was accused of, among other things, defaming the Talmud on this forum (lol).

That is what went on, Lisa and Dan.

can you quote here he/she did that and what it was  you might have said for him/her to think so.

[Lisa]

The fact of the matter is that many Jews tend to me liberal and support liberal chi chi causes like the environment.  There are also observant Jews who are in favor of Israel giving up land to the Arabs, and who love Yitzchak Rabin, Shimon Peres, etc.  My brother in law is an example of that.  When I asked Chaim about it on a past Ask JTF show, he didn't know what to say.  

Likewise, there are many left leaning Christians in America, and they make up even more of America's population.  So rather than criticizing religions (except for Islam, which is fair game here), we should instead focus on *people* who act hypocritically, despite professing to be religious.  

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Go to post 4 of this page, Dan.
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=23507.15

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

The fact of the matter is that many Jews tend to me liberal and support liberal chi chi causes like the environment.  There are also observant Jews who are in favor of Israel giving up land to the Arabs, and who love Yitzchak Rabin, Shimon Peres, etc.  My brother in law is an example of that.  When I asked Chaim about it on a past Ask JTF show, he didn't know what to say.  

Likewise, there are many left leaning Christians in America, and they make up even more of America's population.  So rather than criticizing religions (except for Islam, which is fair game here), we should instead focus on *people* who act hypocritically, despite professing to be religious.  

This is right in the end, but I had to make this thread in order to clarify myself. You told me yesterday that I used some very sloppy wording that could appear that I was insulting all of Judaism. I apologized for giving this impression, edited my original post, started this thread to establish what I really believe, and I think it has run its course.

Go ahead and lock it. Nothing constructive is coming out of it any longer.