Author Topic: Poll: Maronite Support for Samir Kuntar--Should Chaim do a video? (Read 4822 times)

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **on:** July 16, 2008, 09:17:16 AM »

Should Chaim make a video about the anti-Semitism of contemporary Arab "Christians"* (in particular, the Maronites of Lebanon)? I think he should. This is a form of anti-Semitism that many Westerners know nothing of. They think it's only the Muzzies who want to kill them.

The fact of the matter is that the wonderful Maronites of Lebanon thanked Israel for saving them from an Islamic holocaust by dyeing their hair yellow and green in July of 2006, throwing bacchanalia in the streets of Beirut to celebrate the rockets raining down on Israel, and now by throwing enormous welcome parties for Samir Kuntar. (Not to mention by their priests dedicating sermons to Sheik Nasrallah.) But I know Chaim already knows this stuff about the Maronites and other Arab "Christians", and lots more that I don't.

And lest anyone think that Christian Arab anti-Semitism is only a Jewish problem--let me guarantee everyone here that these monsters support the atrocities that their Islamic brothers and sisters commit against the West as well (i.e. 9/11).

What do you all think?
Chaimfan

(*Note--I realize that a tiny minority of Arab Christians, such as Joseph Farah of WND, are genuinely so.)

Zelhar · « **Reply #1 on:** July 16, 2008, 09:35:41 AM »

It is in our best interest to drive them apart from Hizbullah. I wish Lebanon will fall into civil war and all these jew haters would fight each other to the death.

The Maronites hate the PLO and the Shiite Muslims for their own reason, they are cooperating mainly with the Druze and the Sunni, although some of them have traitorously became allied of Hizbullah.

Anyway the 'Christians' in Lebanon are more a problem to Hizbullah than to Israel so why should we target them?

Ulli · « **Reply #2 on:** July 16, 2008, 09:44:25 AM »

Quote from: Zelhar on July 16, 2008, 09:35:41 AM

It is in our best interest to drive them apart from Hizbullah. I wish Lebanon will fall into civil war and all these jew haters would fight each other to the death.

The Maronites hate the PLO and the Shiite Muslims for their own reason, they are cooperating mainly with the Druze and the Sunni, although some of them have traitorously became allied of Hizbullah.

Anyway the 'Christians' in Lebanon are more a problem to Hizbullah than to Israel so why should we target them?

I am for an educational video about the legal status and the daily treatment in reality of arab-christians under Muslim sharia and the irrationality that Arab Christians support the quranimals against Israel.

Lisa · « **Reply #3 on:** July 16, 2008, 09:53:33 AM »

I agree with you, C.F. But Chaim should emphasize that not of all them are like that. He should, however, give out the names of the bad ones, such as Ralph Nader, Hanan Ashwari and Helen Thomas.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #4 on:** July 16, 2008, 09:55:39 AM »

Quote from: Lisa on July 16, 2008, 09:53:33 AM

I agree with you, C.F. But Chaim should emphasize that not of all them are like that. He should, however, give out the names of the bad ones, such as Ralph Nader, Hanan Ashwari and Helen Thomas.

The overwhelming majority are. (Much greater than the percentage of Israeli Jews who are appeaseniks.)

Don't forget Haniydeh (I forgot what her last name is), Adam Shapiro's wife, George Habash, Michel Aoun (former Maronite general turned leader of the Maronite party in Lebanon), etc.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2008, 09:57:20 AM »

Quote from: Pheasant on July 16, 2008, 09:44:25 AM

I am for an educational video about the legal status and the daily treatment in reality of arab-christians under Muslim sharia and the irrationality that Arab Christians support the quranimals against Israel.

This is an excellent idea!

Lisa · « **Reply #6 on:** July 16, 2008, 09:58:09 AM »

He should name ALL of them.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #7 on:** July 16, 2008, 09:59:09 AM »

That would be hard--there are several million Arab ("") Christians. LOL.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #8 on:** July 16, 2008, 10:00:56 AM »

PS: I recall reading in an anti-Islam book written by an Arab Christian (a real one) that even the Coptic (Egyptian Christian) patriarch once issued some statement along the lines that Israel was an "apartheid state" that was to be opposed. Unfortunately I do not remember the title or author.

2honest · « **Reply #9 on:** July 16, 2008, 10:06:06 AM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 16, 2008, 10:00:56 AM

PS: I recall reading in an anti-Islam book written by an Arab Christian (a real one) that even the Coptic (Egyptian Christian) patriarch once issued some statement along the lines that Israel was an "apartheid state" that was to be opposed. Unfortunately I do not remember the title or author.

Do you possibly mean Zakaria Boutros?

2honest · « **Reply #10 on:** July 16, 2008, 10:10:31 AM »

As I've said in another thread, Chaim should make a video once the celebrations about Kuntar have begun in the arab world.
It should be in Hebrew, since Israelis are the first to suffer from this exchange.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #11 on:** July 16, 2008, 10:13:02 AM »

The name does not sound familiar. Who is Zakaria Boutros?

I believe that the author might have been Mark Gabriel, an Egyptian Christian.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2008, 10:13:45 AM »

Oops--I locked my own poll by mistake. Now rectified...

2honest · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2008, 10:19:23 AM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 16, 2008, 10:13:02 AM

The name does not sound familiar. Who is Zakaria Boutros?

He is a Coptic priest and has dealt much with Islam.

He is a contributor to the page http://www.inthenameofallah.org and a video series found on http://youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran3

Dr. Dan · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2008, 10:57:34 AM »

Look at what insanity the Israeli govt has brought...it so sad to realize that 6 million were murdered so easily because of we wanted to be "nice"...

ugh...i'm digusted!

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2008, 11:46:20 AM »

Quote from: 2honest on July 16, 2008, 10:19:23 AM

He is a Coptic priest and has dealt much with Islam.

He is a contributor to the page http://www.inthenameofallah.org and a video series found on http://youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran3

Very interesting. But most Copts are anti-Jew.

TheCoon · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:02:09 PM »

The Maronites who are pro-Kuntar are arab nazis. The party of Michel Aoun is a socialist/arabist party more than anything. The party of the former SLA/Lebanese Forces pretty much just wants to be left alone with their country and don't support people like Kuntar or hezballah.

As for Copts, I think a lot are anti-Israel because of fear. They're a tiny minority in a land filled with savage muslims just waiting for an excuse to murder them.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:05:41 PM »

Then why do they continue to preach against Israel in America?

nikmatdam · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:07:17 PM »

an arab is still an arab... the torah says that yishmael will be a pera adam... not an adam pera... a wild man... but a pera adam... a wild-donkey of a man... meaning an animal in the form of a man... they really are sub-human... and therefore what rav meir always said is absolutely true... "there are no moderate arabs... there are only smart arabs and stupid ones... the smart ones talk peace to put us off-guard... while the stupid ones don't and are thereby so easy to identify as enemies..." nik. out...

TheCoon · « **Reply #19 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:09:58 PM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 16, 2008, 12:05:41 PM

Then why do they continue to preach against Israel in America?

Can you provide examples of this? I would be happy to read them and modify my opinion if I see facts that contradict it.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #20 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:11:04 PM »

Ralph Nader, Helen Thomas, etc.

TheCoon · « **Reply #21 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:17:08 PM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 16, 2008, 12:11:04 PM

Ralph Nader, Helen Thomas, etc.

Well, they are far-left socialists. I would chalk their anti-Israel sentiment to their leftist beliefs moreso than being part of some Maronite identity. There are probably more far-left Jews that hate Israel than there are far-left Maronites or Copts that hate Israel living abroad. I would wager Helen Thomas and Ralph Nader aren't big on going to church.

The Maronites in Lebanon are far-left socialist/arabists who hate Israel. As we've seen, Arabism/socialism is prevelent in the muslim world and some of their people are the most anti-Jewish of all, regardless of religion. The PLO, Egyptians and Syrians are not Islamic-based dictatorships but socialist/arabist ones and they are possibly the most anti-Semitic of all in the muslim world.

RationalThought110 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:19:52 PM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 16, 2008, 12:11:04 PM

Ralph Nader, Helen Thomas, etc.

Bob Novak also seems to have a similar view.

Rubystars · « **Reply #23 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:20:16 PM »

I didn't know Helen Thomas was an Arab. This is a great thing about JTF, I learn something new almost every day

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #24 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:28:15 PM »

Quote from: RationalThought110 on July 16, 2008, 12:19:52 PM

Bob Novak also seems to have a similar view.

I recall reading either on JTF or on masada2000 that Novak is actually a self-hating Jew who converted to Catholicism.

I forgot another Arab Christian anti-Semite: the Lebanese Nazi Joseph Jacobs (called the "Compassionate Conservative" in his syndicated columns.

Poll

Should Chaim make a video (in English or Hebrew) about modern Arab "Christian" Jew-hatred?

Author Topic: Poll: Maronite Support for Samir Kuntar--Should Chaim do a video? (Read 4822 times)