Author Topic: Jackie Mason: A Righteous Jew? (Read 6717 times)

P J C · « **on:** July 20, 2008, 12:24:02 AM »

I have just returned from a Jackie Mason show on broadway. I was going there expecting to hear a self- hating Jew joking about gay sex and Bill Clinton. But I was quite surprised when he was bashing Obama.

Rubystars · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2008, 12:24:50 AM »

I don't believe he's self-hating at all.

P J C · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2008, 12:26:07 AM »

Neither do I.

nopeaceforland · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2008, 12:26:21 AM »

Quote from: Rubystars on July 20, 2008, 12:24:50 AM

I don't believe he's self-hating at all.

Second that. If he was, he wouldn't have spoken out against Jews for Jesus using his likeness.

q_q_ · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2008, 12:29:49 AM »

if you had seen his youtube stuff over the past - year or two, you wouldn't have been suprised.

he was never left wing.

he does come up with new comedy material on politics, but from what i've seen him saying on youtube, i don't find it funny. His old abstract comedy is much better. HE did a recent one on starbucks , again, not political, very funny.
Whenever comedians get into politics they become a big yawn

Manch · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2008, 12:54:40 AM »

Jackie is not left wing but he is still a typical PC Jew. Just watch his videos on youtube and learn how he tells us that majority of muslims are decent, good people and only few "terrorists" muslims give everyone a bad name.

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2008, 01:00:23 AM »

He is who he is and I'll let G-d decide whether he's a "righteous Jew" or not. He's certainly not self-hating.

Dan · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2008, 03:31:11 AM »

I have listen to Jackie on YT for a while now... he seems to be consistent with his views regarding Obama, but as far as defending the muslims, I think that's just PC since he works for a living and needs to be employed. I feels deep down he's a JTFer but doesn't know how to express it publicly w/o backlash.

horselady · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2008, 03:40:03 AM »

Quote from: Dan on July 20, 2008, 03:31:11 AM

I have listen to Jackie on YT for a while now... he seems to be consistent with his views regarding Obama, but as far as defending the muslims, I think that's just PC since he works for a living and needs to be employed. I feels deep down he's a JTFer but doesn't know how to express it publicly w/o backlash.

Oh, he's definitely a conservative. I have spoken to him a few times.

He even joined the anti-Islam message board called Jihad Chat and posted a few times.

He gets interviewed by and sometimes fills in for conservative talk radio hosts and there's isn't a shadow of a doubt as to his
opinions about liberal Jews. I agree, though, that he has to watch what he says about ALL Muslims because
he works in a very liberal dominated industry.

In person, he speaks his mind.

Jasmina · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2008, 03:49:11 AM »

Quote from: horselady on July 20, 2008, 03:40:03 AM

Quote from: Dan on July 20, 2008, 03:31:11 AM
I have listen to Jackie on YT for a while now... he seems to be consistent with his views regarding Obama, but as far as defending the muslims, I think that's just PC since he works for a living and needs to be employed. I feels deep down he's a JTFer but doesn't know how to express it publicly w/o backlash.

Oh, he's definitely a conservative. I have spoken to him a few times.

He even joined the anti-Islam message board called Jihad Chat and posted a few times.

He gets interviewed by and sometimes fills in for conservative talk radio hosts and there's isn't a shadow of a doubt as to his
opinions about liberal Jews. I agree, though, that he has to watch what he says about ALL Muslims because
he works in a very liberal dominated industry.

In person, he speaks his mind.

You spoke to him privately?

horselady · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2008, 03:57:23 AM »

Quote from: Jasmina on July 20, 2008, 03:49:11 AM

Quote from: horselady on July 20, 2008, 03:40:03 AM
Quote from: Dan on July 20, 2008, 03:31:11 AM
I have listen to Jackie on YT for a while now... he seems to be consistent with his views regarding Obama, but as far as defending the muslims, I think that's just PC since he works for a living and needs to be employed. I feels deep down he's a JTFer but doesn't know how to express it publicly w/o backlash.

Oh, he's definitely a conservative. I have spoken to him a few times.

He even joined the anti-Islam message board called Jihad Chat and posted a few times.

He gets interviewed by and sometimes fills in for conservative talk radio hosts and there's isn't a shadow of a doubt as to his
opinions about liberal Jews. I agree, though, that he has to watch what he says about ALL Muslims because
he works in a very liberal dominated industry.

In person, he speaks his mind.

You spoke to him privately?

Yes, he's a friend of my uncle and he's been to some weddings and bar mitzvahs in the family. I haven't spoken to him
since before 9/11 and back then I was pretty ignorant of politics of any kind. But everyone in the family who knows him
well, says he is very conservative and a big supporter of Israel.

q_q_ · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:01:40 AM »

did support kahane's JDL.

not JTF, he was asked to. Maybe his agents saw the racist website..

Shamgar · « **Reply #12 on:** July 20, 2008, 07:25:28 AM »

Quote from: horselady on July 20, 2008, 03:40:03 AM

Quote from: Dan on July 20, 2008, 03:31:11 AM
I have listen to Jackie on YT for a while now... he seems to be consistent with his views regarding Obama, but as far as defending the muslims, I think that's just PC since he works for a living and needs to be employed. I feels deep down he's a JTFer but doesn't know how to express it publicly w/o backlash.

Oh, he's definitely a conservative. I have spoken to him a few times.

He even joined the anti-Islam message board called Jihad Chat and posted a few times.

He gets interviewed by and sometimes fills in for conservative talk radio hosts and there's isn't a shadow of a doubt as to his
opinions about liberal Jews. I agree, though, that he has to watch what he says about ALL Muslims because
he works in a very liberal dominated industry.

In person, he speaks his mind.

I listen to a lot of talk radio when Jackie fills in for vacationing hosts and his views are defenitely conservative... and funny.

P J C · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2008, 12:15:33 PM »

He would fit in perfect here at JTF!!

Dr. Dan · « **Reply #14 on:** July 20, 2008, 12:18:26 PM »

relatively speaking he's a good Jew...Relative of what the ideal Jew should be accroding to JTF, he's not terrible, but has some work to do..

He comes from a family of rabbis and generally agreed with Meir Kahane. Not sure where he would stand with JTF, though.

muman613 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 21, 2008, 06:23:25 AM »

I have some of Jackies videos on my blog. I love Jackie Mason. I have the scene in Mel Brooks The History of the World Part I, The Inquisition, where Jackie has a bit part.

http://lgfsucks.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/jackie-mason-obama-flip-flop-oy/

http://lgfsucks.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/jackie-masons-position-on-obama-iccchh/

http://lgfsucks.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/mel-brooks-inquisition-clip/

http://lgfsucks.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/you-want-funny/

muman613

Scriabin · « **Reply #16 on:** July 21, 2008, 11:58:48 AM »

I sent Jackie an email asking him what he thought of Rabbi Kahane.

The next morning he sent me the following response:

"I knew him well and was very fond of him."

Dr. Dan · « **Reply #17 on:** July 21, 2008, 12:05:24 PM »

He's a good Jew..a little too politically correct...definately not a self hating traitor.

Jasmina · « **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2008, 03:53:30 PM »

I wonder why does he think that we are racist movement?

briann · « **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2008, 03:56:13 PM »

He is a great man. He was on the jihadchat for a while. He'll respond to your posts. I just wish he'd join us here.

nopeaceforland · « **Reply #20 on:** July 21, 2008, 04:05:59 PM »

Quote from: Jasmina on July 21, 2008, 03:53:30 PM

I wonder why does he think that we are racist movement?

He must listen to one of 2 groups either the left as a whole or his PR dept.?

horselady · « **Reply #21 on:** July 21, 2008, 06:18:04 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Dan on July 20, 2008, 12:18:26 PM

relatively speaking he's a good Jew...Relative of what the ideal Jew should be accroding to JTF, he's not terrible, but has some work to do..

He comes from a family of rabbis and generally agreed with Meir Kahane. Not sure where he would stand with JTF, though.

"Relatively?" Why are you so hard on fellow Jews who may not believe exactly as you do on every issue but nevertheless
share many of your beliefs?

I didn't realize there was a measure of an "ideal Jew." I am sure I would not even come close to what your standard of ideal is
but that doesn't make me a liberal/self-hating Jew by any means. I share many of your beliefs too, but I would not be
considered a good Jew in your eyes.

Perhaps that's why Jackie doesn't want to join this board.

I just read the story of Gitty Grunwald in the July 21 issue of New York Magazine who escaped from life as a Satmar wife
and lost her daughter in the process. That story horrified me as do many of the practices of Hasidic Jews. But this one
in particular made me feel ashamed to share a religion with these people.

muman613 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 21, 2008, 06:55:24 PM »

horselady,

An Ideal Jew should attempt to do as many of the 613 commandments of Hashem as commanded. This involves Observing Shabbat, Wearing TzitTzits, Donning Teffilin, Davening 3 times a day, eating Kosher, honoring your mother and father, not making idols, etc.

What is so hard about that?

muman613

muman613 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 21, 2008, 06:55:50 PM »

Remember HASHEM gave US the Torah!

muman613 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2008, 06:58:20 PM »

Some people have alleged that Jackie Mason is a racist to begin with. Check out his Wiki page where his statements concerning Scvartsas and PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi-fakistanians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Mason

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Mason#Allegations_of_racism

Quote

In 1991, he was criticized by African-American organizations such as the NAACP when he called New York mayor David Dinkins "a fancy schvartze with a moustache."[3] He later apologized. He was later accused of racism when the American comic Ray Hanania, of Palestinian descent, was axed from opening for him at a Chicago club.[3]

muman613