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Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« on: February 02, 2007, 06:10:28 PM »
stumbled across your site on a search for jewish discussion forums. i like what i read, especially your mix of jewish pride and american nationalism. thats really grate.

now sometimes i read jeff rense, since he talks about stuff that you all profile, like aaron russo's work on the federal reserve and new world order banking system, the rise of the north american union, etc etc. but jeff also is anti zionist. can you explain to me how on some issues you can agree totally with someone like rense, but on others be at each other's throats?

recently rense ran a very damaging article, supposedly by an israeli and former IDF commander and research scientist, who really knocks zionism. i would appreciate your take on this article, do you think the author is legitimate or what? thanks. here it is:

http://rense.com/general54/thank.htm  ;)

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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2007, 09:40:40 PM »
stumbled across your site on a search for jewish discussion forums. i like what i read, especially your mix of jewish pride and american nationalism. thats really grate.

now sometimes i read jeff rense, since he talks about stuff that you all profile, like aaron russo's work on the federal reserve and new world order banking system, the rise of the north american union, etc etc. but jeff also is anti zionist. can you explain to me how on some issues you can agree totally with someone like rense, but on others be at each other's throats?

recently rense ran a very damaging article, supposedly by an israeli and former IDF commander and research scientist, who really knocks zionism. i would appreciate your take on this article, do you think the author is legitimate or what? thanks. here it is:

http://rense.com/general54/thank.htm  ;)
About this group this is same group that attended the holocaust conference in Iran.i can assure none of these guys have ever served in I.D.F. this is a group theat when arafat was alive received payments for their work in behalf of him  http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ 

more about the neuteri karta scroll down on this site   http://www.masada2000.org/Neturei-Karta.html
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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2007, 10:48:22 PM »
Rense is a neo-Nazi, a militia type. He is of the same batch as Gayvid Puke.

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2007, 11:11:46 PM »
Re:  "...can you explain to me how on some issues you can agree totally with someone like rense, but on others be at each other's throats?..."

Simply put, Rense is not anti-Zionist.
Rense is anti-Jew.
There's a big difference.

Rense lives in a world of ignorance, superstition, and prejudice.
To Jeff Rense, every mention of the word Jew, connotes a millenial, dark, and mystical CONSPIRACY...as old and as primeval as time itself.
Rense claims to be Christian, as well as an American Patriot.
In fact, he is a journalist media hack who's made a succesful living off of "sensationalism"; more often than not most of it being either totally or partially untrue.
"Anti-Semitism", as it has traditionally been known in the West, manifests itself first and foremost as a "religion".
Religions are BIG BUSINESS...actual corporate structures.
During bad times, people tend to turn to religion.
In unusually bad times, the worst among us turn to their religion of Jew-Hatred, which is also the basis for the money-making machine called "Anti-Semitism".
To the uneducated and ignorant in the "civilized" world (the vast majority of people worldwide), the religion which they profess with their mouths on Sundays, Christmas, and Easter, they call Christianity.
In reality, however, they actually practice the true primeval conspiratorial religion called "Anti-Semitism". 
They claim to accept as their Savior the long-awaited Messiah of the Jews.
Yet, these same people have no understanding of any history whatsoever; particularly that of the Jewish people.
The Jewish book they call the Tanach they totally reject; claiming that Christ did away with the Law and made obsolete all that came before.
In actual fact, unless one is thoroughly knowledgeable in all things Jewish, one is totally unable to understand a single word or deed of Jesus; with only a few exceptions Jesus merely reiterated verbatim the words of the Jewish Prophets, and the teachings of the Jews.
Rense is fond of articles portraying "The Real Talmud" as a collection of demonic ideas; such quotes as "...when on a journey or walk and coming across money or purse, and you are not in a Jewish neighborhood, pick it up and keep it and tell no one..."[my own paraphrasing].
To Rense and his ignoramus readers, passages such as these prove his assertions that the Jews are a race of thieves.
In reality; the passages were all written several thousand years ago while Jews were either in captivity or exile among nations and peoples which make the current collection of thugs and murderers in the Middle East look like boy scouts.
During that time, being a Jew alone was sufficient cause to be murdered.  A Jew walking or travelling in the same area in which money or purse was on the ground, was sufficient cause to immediately accuse the Jew of whichever crime could have possibly led to the loss, and then kill the Jew.  If a Jew found a purse and carried it to the nearest official to turn it in, the official most likely would charge the Jew with murder, robbery, and then not only kill the Jew but go and kill the Jew's entire family and community.

Many of Rense's articles are just plain lies portrayed as "research".

Take for example the case of Mordechai Vannunu, current international cause celebre among anyone hating Jews or Israel.
His insane ramblings and betrayal of the very nation which gave him life and liberty, are pointed out as "TRUTH" and "PROOF" that Israel and the Jews are evil and should be destroyed.
This is the height of ignorant skewed logic; not to mention lack of any common sense.

By this same logic, the negro cop-killer Mumia on death row, who is another international cause celebre among Leftist-Marxists-Globalists, is "PROOF" that the U.S.A. imprisons falsely anyone non-white, being a society born, bred, and fueled by RACISM & HATE; with an evil justice system.
Therefore it is only just and right that the U.S. be annihilated so that peace and justice and equality will reign.

Right?

The fact that Mordechai Vannunu is seriously mentally ill and a danger to any society in which he lives (an understatement) is of no consequence when one is looking for a seemingly acceptable way to hide one's true intentions of wishing death to the Jewish People.

The Chinese have always said,

"ONCE THE SUSPECT HAS BEEN CONVICTED, IT IS EASY TO COME UP WITH THE EVIDENCE AGAINST HIM".

Summary:

The "extreme left" and the "extreme right" can not be clearly delineated; they blend and merge together; sharing in common a belief that all events are determined by a secret conspiracy of "puppetmasters" & "moneychangers"; and the belief that there is an "International Jewish (today add -Zionist here) Conspiracy" working to corrode all civilizations from within whilst stealing the entirety of their wealth.

Nazism and Communism both essentially share the same world view; differing only in their answer to it.

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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2007, 07:31:37 PM »
massuh's reply is excellent.

just a couple of questions. isnt naziism national socialism. what does that have to do with communism?

isnt zionism a form of jewish national socialism? ben gurion and all the great zionist leaders were socialists, werent they? so does that make zionism and nazism similar? or is it not the system per se, but just the people behind it, who matter? so you could have a jewish good naziism and a german bad naziism? do you get my question?

rense has some excellent articles on the north american union (the planned merger with canada and mexico) and the federal reserve, which i know some readers here agree with. so you cannot dismiss him as a crackpot, unless you think you are too!  ;D

as for vanunu, he worked inside the reactor and decided to betray his employers and country. not too nice. but he also points out that the dimona reactor is old and leaking and dangerous to israel. like chernobyl. doesnt that concern you? or do you trust everyone who works for the military industrial elite in israel or america or wherever?

are all english and hebrew speaking guys in uniforms automatically good?


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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2007, 07:36:45 PM »
In actual fact, unless one is thoroughly knowledgeable in all things Jewish, one is totally unable to understand a single word or deed of Jesus; with only a few exceptions Jesus merely reiterated verbatim the words of the Jewish Prophets, and the teachings of the Jews.
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this is pretty true. Jesus was steeped in Jewish culture of his times. the church has ripped everything out of context.

i once heard a televangelist say that although the pagan culture of the church is wrong, the Jews are to blame for rejecting Jesus, since otherwise they could have kept Christianity more Jewish. but since they rejected their Savior, they have no one to blame for Christian anti-jewish tendencies besides themselves.

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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2007, 07:41:12 PM »
what happened to this guy aviad cohen, who was 50 shekel?



he was a famous jewish rapper and then this? is it true that a rabbi abused him as a child and this is his reaction?


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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2007, 07:48:40 PM »
I never listen to rap however is'nt obvious to anyone that your playing games
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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2007, 08:02:14 PM »
life is a game that goes to the best.

what do you think of this site:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2MmcsIcX0N0

this is the song when you believe from prince of egypt in japanese. every language version has hebrew song of sea at end. what do you think about all these gentile languages being mixed with hebrew?

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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2007, 08:03:19 PM »
Rense is a neo-Nazi, a militia type. He is of the same batch as Gayvid Puke.
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who or what is gayvid puke?

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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2007, 08:12:04 PM »
It's a pejorative term for David Duke.


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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2007, 08:14:30 PM »
life is a game that goes to the best.

what do you think of this site:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2MmcsIcX0N0

this is the song when you believe from prince of egypt in japanese. every language version has hebrew song of sea at end. what do you think about all these gentile languages being mixed with hebrew?
Well i'm glad they admire mosses so much
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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2007, 08:49:37 PM »
checked out  hail columbia's my space and found this:

I'm a 21-year-old white Hispanic male who wonders where to go from here in life. Here's my other site: http://www.geocities.com/wilder2k1

does this mean you are sefardic, converso, marrano, whatever? or just a plain s-pic? and if the latter what are you doing here?

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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2007, 09:03:59 PM »
checked out  hail columbia's my space and found this:

I'm a 21-year-old white Hispanic male who wonders where to go from here in life. Here's my other site: http://www.geocities.com/wilder2k1

does this mean you are sefardic, converso, marrano, whatever? or just a plain s-pic? and if the latter what are you doing here?
hail columbia is doing what he has done on the JTF forum from when it started. Being a good productive member. What exactly are you trying to say you seem like your looking for problems.
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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2007, 09:51:00 PM »
checked out  hail columbia's my space and found this:

I'm a 21-year-old white Hispanic male who wonders where to go from here in life. Here's my other site: http://www.geocities.com/wilder2k1

does this mean you are sefardic, converso, marrano, whatever? or just a plain s-pic? and if the latter what are you doing here?

I'm a gentile.  Does that answer your question?


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For our children yet may be:
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And before the whole world free.
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Teach us, Lord, to trust Thee still:
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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2007, 10:53:48 PM »
checked out  hail columbia's my space and found this:

I'm a 21-year-old white Hispanic male who wonders where to go from here in life. Here's my other site: http://www.geocities.com/wilder2k1

does this mean you are sefardic, converso, marrano, whatever? or just a plain s-pic? and if the latter what are you doing here?


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Re: Zionophile Says Shalom Y'all!
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2007, 11:02:21 PM »
JTF has nothing against people based on them being Hispanic. We judge only be behavior. This forum has attracted quite a few black and Hispanic supporters. They agree with us that the majority of blacks and Hispanics chose to be evil out of their own free will.


zionphile is a fraud look at his posts
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