Jewish Task Force meet HinduUnity.org...

[briann]

HinduUnity is great.  I was checking out the posts... and most of them seemed intelligent.

[syyuge]

Albeit Jews and Hindus theologically seem to have diametrically opposite opinions and practices but almost all Jewish opinions and practices are available in some or the other groups within Hinduism. So as a matter of fact all of them are mostly not only tolerable but acceptable within Hinduism and vice versa is neither desired not needed.

Hindus and Jews have never in their long histories religiously interfered with each others or even attempted to impose their will in such matters.

Jews have been residing in different parts of India even since 2500 years as a small minority. Not a single complaint or crime of anti-semitic nature or any other has ever been reported by or against Jews. No censorship ever existed to suppress the facts. If someone can provide any evidence to the contrary, I may be simply shaken to the core.   

I do not see even a remote chance of Hindus and Jews standing against each other at any time or any place.

BTW if there are any supposedly misunderstandings between Hindus and Jews within present or future, they shall be the wicked handiworks of Muzzies who unfortunately had the time and occasion to know both of them innately.   

With Regards...

[bd1111]

Message for Rubystars

These types of misrepresentations of Hindus is why I'm bothering with these posts. It is not constructive and honestly childish. It is evident that you have made absolutely no effort to learn about other cultures and what they offer. Nice picture of "ratty milk", thanks. So, should people believe you over people like Oppenheimer, Thoreau, Carl Sagan or Voltaire?



Learning about other culture doesn't mean that you have to give up any of your beliefs, it just makes you more educated. Should you not know who your friends are and what they believe?

[Rubystars]

Message for Rubystars

These types of misrepresentations of Hindus is why I'm bothering with these posts. It is not constructive and honestly childish. It is evident that you have made absolutely no effort to learn about other cultures and what they offer. Nice picture of "ratty milk", thanks. So, should people believe you over people like Oppenheimer, Thoreau, Carl Sagan or Voltaire?



Learning about other culture doesn't mean that you have to give up any of your beliefs, it just makes you more educated. Should you not know who your friends are and what they believe?

The more I learn about Hinduism the LESS I like it, but I've been asked to tone it down so as not to cause disunity. Therefore I will not debate with you any further than this post. That is a genuine picture from a genuine temple in India, and so it's not a smear or a slur. Followers of that particular goddess really do drink that milk after the rats have been drinking it and consider the animals to be holy and the milk and other rat-tainted food to give a blessing. As a Christian I don't keep kosher like the Jews do, but I do have standards, and well, to me that's disgusting, as are a lot of other lower caste Hindu practices.

Now your typical Hindu living in the West is not going to behave like that, and will be civilized and normal, but rural India and sometimes even urban India is another matter.

Plus I'm very upset because of all the entry-level office jobs being outsourced to India and the murders of Christians that have happened in India, and the murders and abortions of little Indian girls and the treatment of "widows", even if the widows are still children. I have reasons for being upset with Hinduism, and it's nothing against you personally, but I can't help how I feel about these things.

That's all I really have to say on that topic.

[P J C]

Well I guess I'm outvoted. Ratty milk, anyone?

Eating food or drinking water that previously has been sampled by a rat is considered to be a supreme blessing.

[bd1111]

Rubystars

Okay, I appreciate your restraint. I don't deny that the picture you posted is real. It is. My objection is the way you used it. Your intentional juxtaposition and selective nature of your choice was deliberately meant to hurt or slander. That is obvious. See you can't judge a faith on some isolated practices especially if you haven't even asked why the practice is taking place. Hinduism is full of metaphor and symbolism. It is very easy to misunderstand something at face value.

Secondly, as far you your job situation, please don't hold Indians responsible for job loses in the tech sector. Your problem is with globalization. Unconstrained flow of capital and labor across boarders leads to this problem but on the other hand the US sells there goods and services to the entire world. You should go after the  US politicians that give tax breaks for outsourcing jobs and the companies that do it. Indians work harder and are quite intelligent so they get these jobs and others.

Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America.
There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET,
38% of doctors in USA are Indians.
12% scientists in USA are Indians.
36% of NASA scientists are Indians.
34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.
28% of IBM employees are Indians.
17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.
13% of XEROX employees are! Indians.

My final point is regarding your comments regarding widows and abortions. The practices that you are referring to are archaic and not a large part of modern India. I think these practices are just over exaggerated by missionaries and biased parties.

[q_q_]

Please join the Hindu Unity Forum and share your thoughts.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

http://hinduunity.org/hinduunity/index.php

Also, please check out my other thread "Misconceptions about Hinduism and India on the JTF Forum."

I'm not interested in Hindu, but I believe an alliance between Israel and India (and therefore Jews and Hindus) against world Islam  and Arab countries is at this time in both of our best interests.

There isn't much difference in this context, between a Jewish Task Force that calls for gentile members as allies, and a Hindu task force that calls for non-hindu members as allies.

[AussieJTFer]

The Hindus have never threatened the Jewish community of India and anti-semitism in India has been pretty much non-existent. Non-Muslim Indians are also victims of islamic nazism and an alliance with them seems only natural.

[Ulli]

The Hindus have never threatened the Jewish community of India and anti-semitism in India has been pretty much non-existent. Non-Muslim Indians are also victims of islamic nazism and an alliance with them seems only natural.

Yes this is historically right. Good point 

[q_q_]

The Hindus have never threatened the Jewish community of India and anti-semitism in India has been pretty much non-existent. Non-Muslim Indians are also victims of islamic nazism and an alliance with them seems only natural.

Yes this is historically right. Good point 

I would have thought everybody knew that!

[Zionistforever]

yes welcome aboard. 

[Rubystars]

bd1111 I told Shlomo I wouldn't discuss my feelings about Hindus and Hinduism in the forum because I don't want to hurt JTF.

[syyuge]

bd1111 I told Shlomo I wouldn't discuss my feelings about Hindus and Hinduism in the forum because I don't want to hurt JTF.

I think he is correct here.

[firster555]

bd, you are right about the tech sector jobs, that fault lies with US politicians.
Though something else has me curious. In another thread in a response to me you said that in India you just want to preserve your culture and be left alone. Fine. My question would then be why are there 3.22 million Indians here in the US?
So, if I get this right, India has every right to protect it's Hindu culture but America does not have the same right to protect it's Judeo-Christian culture?
Now, before I get labelled anything here, I am not saying anything negative about Indians or Hinduism, just calling into question some comments you have made that have me a little confused.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I think Hindus and Buddhists, both of which face annihilation from Muslim Nazis (the Sanskritic Hindus of India, and the Sinhalese Buddhists of Sri Lanka) should both come to JTF! 

[Manch]

Rubystars

Okay, I appreciate your restraint. I don't deny that the picture you posted is real. It is. My objection is the way you used it. Your intentional juxtaposition and selective nature of your choice was deliberately meant to hurt or slander. That is obvious. See you can't judge a faith on some isolated practices especially if you haven't even asked why the practice is taking place. Hinduism is full of metaphor and symbolism. It is very easy to misunderstand something at face value.

Secondly, as far you your job situation, please don't hold Indians responsible for job loses in the tech sector. Your problem is with globalization. Unconstrained flow of capital and labor across boarders leads to this problem but on the other hand the US sells there goods and services to the entire world. You should go after the  US politicians that give tax breaks for outsourcing jobs and the companies that do it. Indians work harder and are quite intelligent so they get these jobs and others.

Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America.
There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET,
38% of doctors in USA are Indians.
12% scientists in USA are Indians.
36% of NASA scientists are Indians.
34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.
28% of IBM employees are Indians.
17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.
13% of XEROX employees are! Indians.

My final point is regarding your comments regarding widows and abortions. The practices that you are referring to are archaic and not a large part of modern India. I think these practices are just over exaggerated by missionaries and biased parties.

Rubystars criticism is myopic and misguided. Indians are an asset in any country they live. Welcome to the forum, brother! You have your religion and I respect it and I respect your right to practice it. Indians suffered, probably more than anyone else, from islam death cult. 

[Lisa]

Manch, you don't have to agree with Rubystars, but please don't call her names. 

[ape]

get more Indians and Hindus to join. Tell your friends..

[muman613]

Shalom,

As I have said many times, Indians I know are very fine people and we share a common enemy with them. There is no reason to cast dispersions on anyone, as long as they are honest in their search for truth. A good person is one who learns from everyone. There is much good in this world and the only way to realize it is to appreciate it...

muman613

[Ulli]

Like I said before, I have respect of Indians and they are in fact hard working and decent people, but if I add this numbers:

Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America.
There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET,
38% of doctors in USA are Indians.
12% scientists in USA are Indians.
36% of NASA scientists are Indians.
34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.
28% of IBM employees are Indians.
17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.
13% of XEROX employees are! Indians.

with the Jewish statements about this issues, there will be in some sectors more than 120% employees.

 

If I add the Chinese record & the White Protestant record we will be at least at 180%  

No offense, this is really something were exaltation is justified. It is the competition of the righteous.  

[muman613]

Like I said before, I have respect of Indians and they are in fact hard working and decent people, but if I add this numbers:

Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America.
There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET,
38% of doctors in USA are Indians.
12% scientists in USA are Indians.
36% of NASA scientists are Indians.
34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.
28% of IBM employees are Indians.
17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.
13% of XEROX employees are! Indians.

with the Jewish statements about this issues, there will be in some sectors more than 120% employees.

 

If I add the Chinese record & the White Protestant record we will be at least at 180% 

No offense, this is really something were exaltation is justified. It is the competition of the righteous. 

Hi,

I dont know about these particular #'s.... But in my place of work we have a majority of Indian/Chinese workers. All are working in America on H1-B visas. My friend Rambabu was working on a visa but was working on becoming a citizen. He was very discouraged when it seemed that amnesty for illegals was being discussed.

As far as I know there are only 2 Jews at my work... Me and my secular Israeli friend...

muman613
 

[q_q_]

<snip> no reason to cast dispersions on anyone, <snip>

the word you are looking for is aspersions. As in "cast aspersions".

Dispersion is a concept in physics, and to disperse is a non specialised english word meaning to scatter.

[Ulli]

My intention was not really to criticize anything, but to make a little bit harmless fun about statistical statements.  

[muman613]

<snip> no reason to cast dispersions on anyone, <snip>

the word you are looking for is aspersions. As in "cast aspersions".

Dispersion is a concept in physics, and to disperse is a non specialised english word meaning to scatter.

Thank you...

very good! 

muman613

[Shlomo]

You know it has to just eat the lunch of our enemies that we accept Hindus and Buddhists because they can't claim we have something against other people because they believe differently. We obviously have a problem with islam which is a murderous and evil honor/shame cult that calls for our death in their "holy" book.

I think it's wonderful that so many Jews and righteous gentiles are finally coming together to try and save our world from savages and self-serving elitists.