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How important is going to Temple to you?
q_q_:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on September 08, 2008, 01:23:50 AM ---I'm sure a motley crew shul would not be boring. It may be very interesting, but so would any other oddball experience. No harm in trying it, but it's worth trying a normal shul too(and not a big one. A small focussed one).
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As long as it is legitimate, there should be no problem. The reform and conservative don't practice Judaism, but Chabad is perfectly legitimate.
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legitimate is only rule number 1
you can go very wrong even within legitimate.
The rabbi and the congregants can make a huge difference. We are talking about the experience here. Not just "is it halachically acceptable".
Just like any shul. One chabad shul may have a rabbi you like, another one may have one that you don't like.
takebackourtemple:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on September 08, 2008, 12:36:51 PM ---Just like any shul. One chabad shul may have a rabbi you like, another one may have one that you don't like.
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That's kind of what I'm saying, except I'm talking about the entire congregation and it's not mostly a factor of who you like and who you don't but just how you fit in.
q_q_:
--- Quote from: takebackourtemple on September 08, 2008, 05:36:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: q_q_ on September 08, 2008, 12:36:51 PM ---Just like any shul. One chabad shul may have a rabbi you like, another one may have one that you don't like.
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That's kind of what I'm saying, except I'm talking about the entire congregation and it's not mostly a factor of who you like and who you don't but just how you fit in.
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interesting point..
if doing a small shul, to avoid a boring service, then fitting in is important, and I see the benefits of a motley crew shul to a "newbie".
it's worth noting though that in a big shul, it's boring, the service can be -l-o-n-g- , not that spiritual, unfocussed, petty(people more interested in the national sport - football if in britain, than in the service), it's a social thing. But you can also melt into the background, because it's a big shul. In a small focussed shul, you'd get more out of it, but finding one where you fit in is important.. And there I see the wisdom of finding a chabad shul that you like. Or some other shul where many people don't know what they're doing.
AsheDina:
To me, this is getting more important. More and more important. I see a total degeneration of society, and I feel way out of place, I see people calling things moral when they are not, I see people calling things conservative,. when they are not. I am feeling confused, and recently a feeling of persecution when I get attacked for standing up for righteousness. I feel lost, and not 'home'. It is like America not my country anymore, and the people are getting worse and worse. I feel pressed everywhere, because I want to be strong and correct. I just feel so lost right now, I could just scream.
q_q_:
--- Quote from: Paulette on September 08, 2008, 05:58:42 PM --- To me, this is getting more important. More and more important. I see a total degeneration of society, and I feel way out of place, I see people calling things moral when they are not, I see people calling things conservative,. when they are not. I am feeling confused, and recently a feeling of persecution when I get attacked for standing up for righteousness. I feel lost, and not 'home'. It is like America not my country anymore, and the people are getting worse and worse. I feel pressed everywhere, because I want to be strong and correct. I just feel so lost right now, I could just scream.
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if you didn't give leftists the time of day, didn't talk to them, didn't debate them, then it wouldn't affect you so much.
your physical home is still void of leftists, and on the internet, you have JTF which is right wing.
I find that I don't talk about politics much, because the left aren't worth talking to, (and i'm not friendly with leftists anyway). And my friends would agree with me anyway, and most of what we'd have to say on politics they already know as obvious.
JTF is the only place I discuss politics really.
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