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Targeting Civilian Areas During Wartime
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Written by Rav Bar-Hayim
Breakdown of the Halakhic System: Targeting Civilian Areas During Wartime
Has Orthodox Judaism become politically correct in determining how to deal with the enemies of Israel and the Jewish people? The answers to many modern problems we have in the Jewish State can be quite obvious even to the average man on the street. Why can't our Rabbis and Leaders follow common sense and or Torah as the case applies? How can some of our Rabbis abandon their common sense even when backed by clear direction from the Torah?
Breakdown of the Halakhic System: Targeting Civilian Areas During Wartime, Part 1
One /right-wing/ rabbinic scholar claims we can’t decide whether bombing civilian areas is moral, so we should abide by international standards.
Breakdown of the Halakhic System: Targeting Civilian Areas During Wartime, Part 2
A recipe for stopping terror from Gaza. Does the Torah permit it?
You will find these and many other interesting and informative shiurim in our section of Audio recordings on Halacha. Just click on this link to Audio Shiurim on Halacka to browse the selcetion.
http://machonshilo.org/content/view/99/1/lang,english/
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
I had listened to part 1 and it was excellent.... Don't have time to summarize and maybe I couldn't do it justice- it is definitely worth listening to..
GoIsraelGo!:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on August 20, 2008, 01:52:46 PM ---
Written by Rav Bar-Hayim
Breakdown of the Halakhic System: Targeting Civilian Areas During Wartime
Has Orthodox Judaism become politically correct in determining how to deal with the enemies of Israel and the Jewish people? The answers to many modern problems we have in the Jewish State can be quite obvious even to the average man on the street. Why can't our Rabbis and Leaders follow common sense and or Torah as the case applies? How can some of our Rabbis abandon their common sense even when backed by clear direction from the Torah?
Breakdown of the Halakhic System: Targeting Civilian Areas During Wartime, Part 1
One /right-wing/ rabbinic scholar claims we can’t decide whether bombing civilian areas is moral, so we should abide by international standards.
Breakdown of the Halakhic System: Targeting Civilian Areas During Wartime, Part 2
A recipe for stopping terror from Gaza. Does the Torah permit it?
You will find these and many other interesting and informative shiurim in our section of Audio recordings on Halacha. Just click on this link to Audio Shiurim on Halacka to browse the selcetion.
http://machonshilo.org/content/view/99/1/lang,english/
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Shalom, I was not able to hear the audio however I would like to give my opinion regarding targeting civilian areas during wartime.
If the Muslims harbor terrorists in their homes, I feel as though the civilians are fair game or casualties of war.
Muslim terrorists rely on the civilians for protection. Muslim terrorists take it to the bank that they are safe and we will not harm the civilians
due to ( political pressure) from the Left. Hashem expect us to use our common sense and intelligence when fighting evil. I do believe that
Hashem will forgive us because he knows that the evil we are fighting will include killing civilians, and that we have no choice in the matter.
Muslim civilians have 2 choices. Fight the radicals that have ' supposedly' hijacked their religion' or die with them. We should bear no guilt
for killing civilians due to the fact we were left with no other choice to defeat terrorists.
P.S. The absolute truth is this: If civilians die the Muslim terrorists are to blame. Place the blame where it deserves to be placed.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Republic -right, except this "I do believe that Hashem will forgive us"
What is the sin? Its not a sin, infact it would be a Mitzva to do what is necessary to protect one's people agains't a hostile nation that wants to kill you. So in this aspect if it is done, then forgiveness is not needed because their is no sin.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on August 20, 2008, 07:32:31 PM ---Republic -right, except this "I do believe that Hashem will forgive us"
What is the sin? Its not a sin, infact it would be a Mitzva to do what is necessary to protect one's people agains't a hostile nation that wants to kill you. So in this aspect if it is done, then forgiveness is not needed because their is no sin.
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Tzvi,
I think he is referring to the innocent people killed... It is a mitzvah to kill those who rise to kill us, but each person must be judged. When they use human shields it makes it too difficult to determine who is the 'bad' guy and the good guy. So, inevitably, some innocent good people get killed.
Imagine that 2 terrorists are in a building which has 200 people in it. Is it justified to destroy the entire building, killing all 200 people, just to kill the 2 terrorists? This is an ethical dilemma.
muman613
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