A new statute for Vojvodina-creating a new country of Serbian land!

[DALMACIJA]

  OK, so you are saying that Kosovo deserved to be Albanian!
  Can I ask you to leave this forum please?
  Otherwise I will report you and soon you will be a history for this forum!

Because my opinion is other, you will bann me? Very nice...

How can Serbs kill 44.000 Hungarians in 1944 when Serbia was occupied by Germnay and fascists Hungary?

This says enough about you..

[Kerber]

  OK, so you are saying that Kosovo deserved to be Albanian!
  Can I ask you to leave this forum please?
  Otherwise I will report you and soon you will be a history for this forum!

Because my opinion is other, you will bann me? Very nice...

How can you have an opinion that Serbs killed 44.000 Hungarians???

Are you normal man!?Who told you that lie?

[Jasmina]

  You are spreading lies about my NATION!!! I will report you!!!! How simple is that?

[Hungarian]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944-1945_Killings_in_Ba%C4%8Dka

[DALMACIJA]

Serbia was the only anti-fascist nation during WW2 at the Balkans the neigboring countries of Serbia (Bulagria, Croatia, Albania and HUNGARYA)
occupied Serb lands and started to kill Serbs and Jews.

Real anti-fascists and Jews recognize the Serbian anti-fascist character!
You are spreting anti-Serb lies.

[Hungarian]

  You are spreading lies about my NATION!!! I will report you!!!! How simple is that?

I said what I thought. I said what I read. I didn't insult Serbia.

[DALMACIJA]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944-1945_Killings_in_Ba%C4%8Dka

Dunav Sabe (some Germans) were ethnic cleansed but not Hungarians.
Historical manipulation of facts!

That happend after WW2 not in 1944!
That is your second lie.

[DALMACIJA]

  You are spreading lies about my NATION!!! I will report you!!!! How simple is that?

I said what I thought. I said what I read. I didn't insult Serbia.

1. You said it were 44.000 Hungarian who were killed by the Serbs in 1944!
2. You said the Albanians, the allies of the Turks, were fighting the Ottomans? ?
3. According to your opinion Kosovo must be independent!
4. You also defend Hungarian fascist past?
5. You think Vojvodina must be annexed to Hungarya!

[Jasmina]

....and you should be banned!

[Hungarian]

  You are spreading lies about my NATION!!! I will report you!!!! How simple is that?

I said what I thought. I said what I read. I didn't insult Serbia.

1. You said it were 44.000 Hungarian who were killed by the Serbs in 1944!
2. You said the Albanians, the allies of the Turks, were fighting the Ottomans? ?
3. According to your opinion Kosovo must be independent!
4. You also defend Hungarian fascist past?
5. You think Vojvodina must be annexed to Hungarya!

1. I said, because I learned and read it. But if you give me independent source I promise I will read.
2. I am not good in the Albanian history, sorry I just learned about Skanderbeu, and I learned that he was one of the most anti-Muslim leader in the medieval age.
3. Majority is Albanian.
4. I didn't defend them, I just defended the medium Hungarians, I am not 100% Jewish as I said, my father side is Hungarian, and they hate the Nazis too.
5. I just spoke about the North-Vojvodina with Hungarian majority.

And If I insulted some Serbian-Jewish people here, I didn't want. I am sorry. I will not write here, in the future, if you want. But don't call Hungarian fascist please. They are totally against the facism now.

[Kerber]

  You are spreading lies about my NATION!!! I will report you!!!! How simple is that?

I said what I thought. I said what I read. I didn't insult Serbia.

1. You said it were 44.000 Hungarian who were killed by the Serbs in 1944!
2. You said the Albanians, the allies of the Turks, were fighting the Ottomans? ?
3. According to your opinion Kosovo must be independent!
4. You also defend Hungarian fascist past?
5. You think Vojvodina must be annexed to Hungarya!

1. I said, because I learned and read it. But if you give me independent source I promise I will read.
2. I am not good in the Albanian history, sorry I just learned about Skanderbeu, and I learned that he was one of the most anti-Muslim leader in the medieval age.
3. Majority is Albanian.
4. I didn't defend them, I just defended the medium Hungarians, I am not 100% Jewish as I said, my father side is Hungarian, and they hate the Nazis too.
5. I just spoke about the North-Vojvodina with Hungarian majority.

And If I insulted some Serbian-Jewish people here, I didn't want. I am sorry. I will not write here, in the future, if you want. But don't call Hungarian fascist please. They are totally against the facism now.

1.You should read better.There was no "civilians" in fifth column.Members of "fifth column" who still attacks can't be civilians.Whoever holds the gun and shoots is not a civilian.
2."Skenderbeu" is Skenderbeg,he was not an Albanian,he was Serbian.I posted on some other Serbian forum his own letter where he wrotes about his faith,his ethnicity and his contribution to the building of the  Serbian Orthodox Hilandar Monestary in Greece.I'll tell you something about him later...and show you how Albanians steal lands and people.
3.Yes,the Albos were their vassals and Turks brought them in Kosovo and Metohija from Albania.
4.You hate the nazis but you support fascist's politics in Kosovo which is almost the same today as it was in WWII?
5.Where national minorities has the right to separate from the state?Is there any international law that allows that?No!The international law says that minorities doesn't have rights to secede.Otherwise it would be a pure chaos in all world,because almost every national state has minorities...

[Lisa]

Hungarian, JTF fully supports the Serbs. 

After all, the Serbs helped the Jews, and were allies to America for both World Wars.  So this is not the place to post anti-Serb comments. 

[Kerber]

@HUNGARIAN

Considering Skenderbeg...
In the 15th century in enslaved Albania under Ottoman Empire,there was a few families that ruled under the Sultan.On the north there were Dukadyin and Musaki,in the south Ariyanti and in the central Albania(today its Kroya region) the ruling family was Kastriot(Kastriots were Orthodox Serbs).


Skenderbeg's father's name was Ivan Kastriot.Ivan had a wife Vojislava(that's Serbian,Slavic name) and 4 sons: Stanisha,Reposh,Kostadin and Djuradj(Dyurady or Dyordye,little hard to spell...on English it's George).

As an Orthodox Serb he(Ivan Kastriot,father of Djuradj,later known as Skenderbeg as we'll see) helped the construction of the biggest sanctity of its people the Hilandar Monastery on the "Ayis Oros"(Saint Mountain in Atos,Greece).If he wasn't Serb he would help construct an Albanian monastery,as every other Orthodox people in the region did for its self.But he constructed a "pirg"(tower near the Monastery that protects it from pirates and thiefs) at the Hilandar Serbian Monestary in Atos,Greece.

Here's a letter dedicated to the Monastery written in cyrillic(as Ivan Kastriot,father of Skenderbeg was a Serb.I'm asking if some1 of Serbs here could translate this letter from Skenderbeg's father so Hungarian can read this):

"Po neizrecivom milosrdju vladike moga Hrista,ja gresni nedostojni,ne smem se nazvati rob Hrista Boga mojega,Ivan Kastriot i sa sinovima mojim Stanisom i Kostadinom i Djuradjem iskazujuci revnost Gospodu Bogu,mome Svedrzitelju i pomoci preciste Vladicice nase Bogorodice Lavre Hilandarske,savjetovavsi se sa sinovima mojim prilozismo svetom manastiru koliko je u nasoj moci; sveblagi Bog i precista Bogomati neka prime ove nase male priloge kao sto su primili od one udovice 2 novcica.I prilozih selo Radostushe i s Crkvom s Precistom Bogorodicom koja je u selu Radostushi, i sa selom Trebishtem.
I tako prilozih oba ta sela da su slobodna od svih rabota malih i velikih,sa svim njihovim pravima,osim haraca careva i grada,a sve drugo da je svetog manastira,da nema vlasti nad njim ni kefalija,ni vlasnik,ni pisar,ni da daju desetak ,ni od zita ni od vina,ni od pcela,ni dinar na ime poklona,ni travninu,ni torovimu,nego da Crkva uyima sve svoje pravine po zakonu tij sela.I prosto receno da su slobodni od svih mojih rabota,malih i velikih."

Later,Ivan Kastriot's son Reposh and brother of Djuradj(Skenderbeg-that was his Turkish name) died in this Monastery and he was buried here.That's how close was this family Kastriot to the Monastery.

The youngest son of Ivan Kastriot was Djuradj Kastriot.Djuradj(George) Kastriot was enslaved by Turks and Islamized.As a Turkish servant he got the new name "Skenderbeg".
Later,He used the Hungarian-Turkish war in(1422-1444) when the Turkish power was weakening and regain  rebelled against Turkish Sultan.He regain control of his motherland,central Albania around Kroya,and rebuild the govern of his family.Now what he did!?
As he was islamized,he NEVER REALLY ACCEPTED Islam and was asking all of those who was islamized too to return to its religion in his liberated central Albania.He killed those who rejected to return from Islam,adn the historians evaluate this number is about 1000 people.
Turkish Sultan Murad II attacked him,but Dyurady Kastriot(Skenderbeg),with help from Dubrovnik's Republic(Mletak's Republic,they was Serbs Catholics) was able to resist with major losses that brought him into very difficult position.He connected himself with other rulers trough the marriages,and so he gave his sister for Stefan Crnojevic,the ruler of Zeta.So,Skenderbeg gained support from him,too.

Also,what is interesting is that he spoke Serbian language and Turkish.Throughout the centuries of the Turkish Empire,all Kastriots were islamized and then Albanized,and the last descendant of this family as Kastriot that was Orthodox Serb died in 1918.Those who managed to escape and preserve its Serbian roots,today they have the surname Kastratovic.

So,thanks to the Albanian twisting of historical facts they are teaching its children that Skenderbeg was Albanian and that it was the "proof" of its national resistance to the Islamization and Ottoman Empire,which is a total lie!Albanians were the biggest Turkish allies and the most devoted servants.
Today Albanians believe so fanatically in this fairy tail that they made him their national hero and lately in the WWII they formed a hole nazi SS division called "Skenderbeg" that committed a genocide over Serbs in Kosovo during nazi German and Italian occupation.

[Zionistforever]

look dala
stop harrasing hungarian, u bait him, he is new, and he wants to learn the truth dont report him, he deserves another chance, i will speak with him okay. both of you have said some things. just end it, i will convince him to stay off of the save serbia section.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

Hungarian, I don't know what your motivation is, but you are spreading holocaust revisionism.

The Hungarians did support Nazi Germany in World War II.

When the Germans started to round up Hungarian Jews to take them to the Nazi death camps for extermination, the Hungarian Nazis enthusiastically assisted the Germans. Hundreds of thousands of innocent Hungarian Jewish men, women and children were sent to the Nazi death camps where they were brutally murdered. The blood of these innocent Jews is on the hands of the Hungarian Nazis who helped the Germans round them up for deportation to Auschwitz and other concentration camps.

Even in 1944, when it was obvious that Germany was going to lose the war, the Hungarian Nazis continued to assist their German allies.

After the war, the Hungarians stole the property of the Hungarian Jews who had been murdered or deported.

To this day, whenever I do videos on liveleak, Hungarian Jew-haters post the most vicious Nazi comments against the Jewish people.

The Serbs, on the other hand, fought heroically against the German Nazis. The Serbs did not persecute or murder Jews. The Serbs allowed the Jews to join them in the mountains to fight together against the German Nazi invaders.

The Albanian Muslim Nazis, the "Bosnian" Muslim Nazis and the Croatian Nazis murdered 90,000 Yugoslav Jewish men, women and children.

The Albanian, "Bosnian" and Croatian Nazis also murdered 1.2 million innocent Serb men, women and children. The Croat Nazis even set up Nazi death camps to slaughter Serb women, children and babies.

If your mother is really Jewish, then you are a Jew. It is the mother who determines if someone is Jewish. And if you are a Jew, you have a moral obligation to support the heroic Serb people who were the only major group in the Balkans that did not murder or persecute Jews.

[4International]

Shalom everyone.

Well said above, Chaim Ben Pesach!!!

It is about time someone in a senior position at JTF spoke out against this Hungarian's Holocaust revisionism and outright lies (whether intentional or not is quite frankly irrelevant, in my opinion).

You know what amazes me the most? How many so-called "Leftist", "liberal" Jews (eg the publishers/editors of the Jewish magazine "The Forward") whom support the outright Nazi enemies of the heroic Christian Serbs.

These Jews - who overwhelmingly are self hating and ashamed to be Jewish - support the Albanian Muslims, the Bosnian Muslims and the Croatian Catholic Nazis.Have a look at all the Serb-hating liberal Jews in the mass media and Hollywood and those Jews in the Congress and Senate in Washington (most of them in the Democratic party but sadly, also a few so-called "neocons" in the Republican party) who support these despicable Nazi enemies of the heroic Christian Serbs. The Christian Orthodox Serbs who fought so nobly and heroically on the side of the Allies in both World Wars at a tremendous cost in Serbian lives (nearly 60% - yes you read that right - 60% OR ALMOST TWO THIRDS of the  entire Serbian male population were killed fighting heroically and nobly against the Austrians, Hungarians and Germans in World War 1).

Well over a MILLION Serbs - some estimates by Western historians being as high as 1.7 Million Serbs -  were brutally butchered with knives, sledgehammers, axes, saws,  rope, fire and caustic soda by the Croats and their allies - the Albanian and Bosnian Muslim Nazis - in World War 2 in Bosnia-Herzegovina/Croatia-Krajina-Slavonija [aka the so called "Independent State of Croatia"].

And as Chaim correctly pointed out, over 90,000 Yugoslav Jews were also brutally slaughtered along with their Serbian brothers and sisters - including tens of thousands of Romany Gypsies - in Croatian concentration camps like "Jasenovac-Stara Gradiska" - all of these innocent men,women and children murdered in the most horrifically cruel way imaginable [read the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust for details].

The editor of the blog called "4International" - Felix Quigley - is probably the only Trotskyist socialist on the face of this earth that I know of whom unconditionally supports Israel, the Jewish people, Judaism, the Christian Serbs and their Orthodox Christian religion and condemns in unequivocal terms the neo-Stalinist "Communists", "Bolsheviks", "Socialists", "Social Democrats", "Liberals" and other so-called "Leftists" in the pro-Arab/pro-Muslim-Nazi Western mass media and the  "International Solidarity Movement"/"Electronic Intifada" who are self-confessed supporters of the Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO-Fatah and Iranian Islamofascist/Nazi terrorists threatening Israel and the Jewish people on a daily basis with another Holocaust.


Felix Quigley is against those traitorous Globalist Imperialist "New World Order" scumbag politicians in Washington, Brussels and London - who behind our backs for decades have secretly worked together with and fully supported the Islamofascist Iranians, Saudis, Egyptians, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Turks et al - and the vilest neo-Nazis in the Balkans like the Ustasha Croats and their Islamofascist allies: the Bosnian and Albanian Muslims who to this day glorify and celebrate the atrocities perpetrated by the MUSLIM Waffen SS "Handschar", "Kama" and "Skanderbeg" Nazi divisions.

Felix Quigley has worked tirelessly exposing these traitorous Globalist New World Order politicians - for many years on the Canadian Israpundit website - and now for the last 8 months on his own blog 4international http://4international.wordpress.com

That is why, even though I am speaking here as a religious Jew, fully support Felix Quigley and his 4International blog and am proud to be associated with him and his colleagues.


Shalom to and may G-d bless Chaim Ben Pesach and all our wonderful JTF members on the "Save Serbia" section of the best Jewish internet forum in the world: JTF.ORG/E

sincerely,

Joshua Rosenberg.

[DALMACIJA]

Shalom everyone.
These Jews - who overwhelmingly are self hating and ashamed to be Jewish - support the Albanian Muslims, the Bosnian Muslims and the Croatian Catholic Nazis.Have a look at all the Serb-hating liberal Jews in the mass media and Hollywood and those Jews in the Congress and Senate in Washington (most of them in the Democratic party but sadly, also a few so-called "neocons" in the Republican party) who support these despicable Nazi enemies of the heroic Christian Serbs.

Those Jews, who are anti-Serbian, have to much media attention.
We must propagate those Jews who condemn evil and support the Serbs.