For US citizens: Do you pay income tax and why?

[Rubystars]

There is a good story I was reading in Martin Gilbert's book "The Holocaust", I believe, where Herr Schickelgruber: Hitler, held an Aryan poster child search throughout all Germany.  A Jewess sent a picture in of her child, this is during the anti-semitic pogroms, after Kristalnaught, in to be judged.  The Reich chose her child due to the "Aryan" features: blonde hair, blue eyes and fair skin..

After its printing in the papers they found out it was a Jew.....  Of course the picture was pulled but....  as far as I know the story is truthful and a good example of how, in many cases, the "racial" theories can become farcical...

The child was probably almost entirely pure German by blood and Jewish by Halacha.

[MarZutra]

Nope, apparently 100% Kosher...  German Jew.  Simply introduce Herr Hitler to a flaw in his and the Nazi race ideology...

[Rubystars]

Nope, apparently 100% Kosher...  German Jew.  Simply introduce Herr Hitler to a flaw in his and the Nazi race ideology...

I'm sure they were Jewish. Anyone with a Jewish mother is Jewish. However someone 100% Jewish could have 99% Ethiopian blood or 99% German blood or 99% Asian blood, etc. It's Halacha that determines Jewishness, not genetics. The child's mother could also have been a convert and the child would still have been 100% Jewish.

I think Hitler was stupid to say that all Jews aren't white. Some Jews are white, and that picture would have proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. That's why they had to remove it. It didn't sit well with their stupid Nazi ideas.

[MarZutra]

Nope, apparently 100% Kosher...  German Jew.  Simply introduce Herr Hitler to a flaw in his and the Nazi race ideology...

I'm sure they were Jewish. Anyone with a Jewish mother is Jewish. However someone 100% Jewish could have 99% Ethiopian blood or 99% German blood or 99% Asian blood, etc. It's Halacha that determines Jewishness, not genetics. The child's mother could also have been a convert and the child would still have been 100% Jewish.

I think Hitler was stupid to say that all Jews aren't white. Some Jews are white, and that picture would have proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. That's why they had to remove it. It didn't sit well with their stupid Nazi ideas.

Yes you are right about Halacha.  If one had 99% Etheopian (Hamitic) blood they'd be black.  This kid was blonde with blue eyes and fair skin. 

Most Jews: Ashkenazim and Sefaradim are "White".  When one is discussing "race" and Jews there is a very big misconception here.  Over the vast breadth of time and numerous conquests, pogroms, inquisitions, crusades and racial laws etc. Jews have had their share of unwilling sperm recipients which is why you see Jews with an extensive documented heritage with red hair or the aforementioned blonde. 

In most cases the discussion of "race" is very informative as specifically applied to the Asian, Caucasian (from the Caucasus) and Semites, Negro-Arab: Hamites what is very difficult is to identify "race" amongst peoples like the Jews or even the Gypsies due to their long diaspora.  The Gypsies, for example, stem from the Hind (India) and are/were Hindus which fled from Islamic invasions, forced conversions, slavery and massacre. 

Biblically Jews are Shechemites and Arabs are Hamites but today in many respects it is a difficult situation.

I may well be entirely wrong on this as this is from my memory of my former readings....

[Rubystars]

I always thought of Jews as being a people who weren't a race but functioned as a race in the sense of being one people and identity in common despite not having a homeland for so many years. I wouldn't view a white and black Jew together in the same way I would a white and black Gentile, although both would make me uncomfortable. There is a genetic connection between separated Jewish groups as well, as I mentioned before.

[MarZutra]

There is an arguement about cases of a genetic history between many Jews but not all by any means.  Anyone who accepts the yoke of Heaven: Torah, is a Jew.  Picture it as a Nation with a common culture, common faith and now a homeland.  If a Negro from Khartoum, an Arab from Dubai or Joe Smith from Ashland Kentucky decided to embrace Torah and become a Ga'ar (pronounced g-air): convert they would be just as Jewish as any other Jew.  Obviously there would be racial/genetic differences being  Caucasian and Hamite.

This is one of the tragedies of Jewish history and being a subjugated people.  No matter how much the Jew, according to Halacha, advocates nationalism, individual identity and keeping culture and faith alive amongst their own there has been many examples of exploitations under their rulers.  In the Islamic world as  "dhimmi" many Jewish families had their familes distroyed and/or vanquished by the Mohammadan conquerer.  Many examples being the massacres of all males over the age of 13 and the children and women sold into slavery, herems and what not with obvious intentions of forced conversions and bastard mongrel Children, often raised Jewish by the mothers...

This happened time and again, rapes during the crusades, pogroms and inquisitions etc. which has, in many cases, molested the argument of a DNA link...  Now there are a few families that can trace their lines back to antiquity; two being in Israel and one in London England. 

I will not keep you..  just my two cents...

[Rubystars]

Having a direct line of descent from ancient Jews is important for Cohens, isn't it?

[Shamgar]

Having a direct line of descent from ancient Jews is important for Cohens, isn't it?

Are Adam and Eve Jewish?

[Rubystars]

Having a direct line of descent from ancient Jews is important for Cohens, isn't it?

Are Adam and Eve Jewish?

If they were two literal people they would have been created way before Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob.

[MarZutra]

No Adam and Eve were not Jews.  They were the first Righteous People who had lived as one with G-d until the first of their sin.  The first to be recognized as a Jew was Abraham. 

Personally, I am convinced the only hope the Jews have is we must restore the the House of David to a Constitutional Monarchy.  The Jewish people now that they are back in the land of Israel must demand it and must initiate the steps.  We have today several household's from the right family that can meet the criteria:  the Ben Zlonims of Jerusalem, the Val-Malaks of Haifa, the Ben-Shonens of London are all genuine descendeds of David but even more important we have a genuine Tzaddik and Nabi back in Israel, the Annshever Rebbe whom could be authorized to interview and choose a candidate from one of those families and anoint him. 

His first task would be to apporach the courts and use the law to confirm him, then he could notify the president that Israel needs constituency (once the court would be forced to confirm him the president would be his servant) based house for him to choose a prime-minister, the kenesset could be a propoprtional representation second chamber to review legislation before it became law.  His task would be foreign policy. 

Today we, especially Secular Jews, don't think kings are politically correct, but the Torah says for Jews it is their only way, and even with deterioration over time the average Jewish monarchy lasted between 4 and 500 years.

[GoIsraelGo!]

OK...Thanks for those who gave me some questions.
Here what's my question is about.
I recently found out that USA DOES NOT HAVE the law that enforces You,US citizens,to pay the income tax.Have you ever see the law that is forcing you to do this?
Such a law doesn't exist.

Ask your authorities to show you the law.
You are being robed by IRS which is collecting your money illegally.

Hi Kerber, all working citizens of the United States of America have to pay taxes...we give our social security numbers for this reason. Why are we being ripped off like this? I will explain. Our Liberals insist that we pay for all social programs and that includes paying for illegal aliens as well. The Government cannot afford these social programs so they take it from us ....with the help of the Liberals of course. Now I don't mind being taxed to pay for our Military and Troops, our Police and Firefighters, but being taxed and double taxed to pay for illegal aliens is outrageous.
Liberals are so openminded, their brains have fallen out of their heads. I don't know who made that saying but it's true.

                                                                         Shalom from Dox and welcome to the Forum

[MarZutra]

Liberals are so openminded, their brains have fallen out of their heads.

That is most emphatically true.  I'm sitting here listening to Savage on 760KFMB and he is playing speaches from the Democrat Convention....  How true this statement is....

Bloody savages... Communists and Mohammadans....

[GoIsraelGo!]

Liberals are so openminded, their brains have fallen out of their heads.

That is most emphatically true.  I'm sitting here listening to Savage on 760KFMB and he is playing speaches from the Democrat Convention....  How true this statement is....

Bloody savages... Communists and Mohammadans....

Question: What do Liberals and Apples have in common?

Answer: They both look good hanging from Trees!
                                                                                                Shalom from Dox       

[Shamgar]

Liberals are like slinkies. Not good for anything, but they still make you smile when you push one down the stairs.

[MarZutra]

Those are both fabulous.....  I must remember those....  I wish there was one American that would sue the major media for bias and creating public opinion rather than simply reporting public opinion..

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” - Winston Churchill

[GoIsraelGo!]

Liberals are like slinkies. Not good for anything, but they still make you smile when you push one down the stairs.

Now that would be fun !