Jewish rap music (it's horrible!)

[White Israelite]

Why oh why would any Jew want to pretend their black? I 1 starred it, this is embarrasing!

[muman613]

Hey,

I love that song. I just listened to it this morning on the way into work. Did you listen to the words? This video along with Iron like a Lion are very hot. And very Jewish, zionistic, and sounds great on my car stereo...

Different strokes...

muman613

[Americanhero1]

Why oh why would any Jew want to pretend their black? I 1 starred it, this is embarrasing!

[muman613]

Im a soldier
Dont need no straps on my shoulder
rapper bet the reasons not bogus
Over Moshiachs right around the corner
Im drunk from the cup whos got me trying get sober
Maccabee, yeah warrior man
Lived with uncle sam, but now the holy land
If there wasnt head high then I woulda just ragged
Everythings just sweeter in Jerusalem
Im a soldier and my crew be the chosen few
Shot out with my people what you did, what you do?
Gotta get down cause it used to be my place
So I placed it first time right on my myspace
Iron like a lion - The last days of zion
all you haters all around want my land - stop tryin
People killin, People dyin, but it just aint right
Moshiachs gonna bring back our respect tonite!
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
No I dont understand how a man can give the land to a man who wasnt there
just because they got rocks in their hand,trade in rocks and they want to go BANG
Orders like they came from IRAN, runaround joke average land
Man they worse than the Klu Klux Klan, take off the robe and throw on a tan
Hold up
I cant get this peace plan
Or should I say a plan to get a piece of my land
Politicians show the peace sign with the other one jammed
Behind their backs with a whip and a gun in their hand
Man ill be honest, I really dont want this war
I just want our redeemer to come and take the floor
And Im sorry Im rowdy it is whats in store
My mentor says I write no more but Im raw
So if you look at my body you cant read my soul
I just roll up my body and I pay that toll
And if you ask why orange is in most of the rhymes
I stand with my people, I be a Israelite!
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
We got a King, you see Hashem is incredible
The king sent out his soldiers but then to be a general
Not talking politics or anything federal
Cant feed me them lies, the lies are so visceral
So Keep your money, and Ill keep my milk and honey
But freak you want your whole cake where you comin?
Amalek, disaffect, and dollar make you holler
Demons dressed up in suits, but their crime is white collar
Oh Moshiach, do we have to live this way?
Blam Blam in your ban livin up with the land
...
Disappear and turn back and better yet ex nihlo
And were low, you learn and know what we know
The more you learn the more you know do lose your kilo, amigo
were about to see the true light
Moshiach here my dear we no longer need to fight
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites

[Americanhero1]

Hey,

I love that song. I just listened to it this morning on the way into work. Did you listen to the words? This video along with Iron like a Lion are very hot. And very Jewish, zionistic, and sounds great on my car stereo...

Different strokes...

muman613

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Im a soldier
Dont need no straps on my shoulder
rapper bet the reasons not bogus
Over Moshiachs right around the corner
Im drunk from the cup whos got me trying get sober
Maccabee, yeah warrior man
Lived with uncle sam, but now the holy land
If there wasnt head high then I woulda just ragged
Everythings just sweeter in Jerusalem
Im a soldier and my crew be the chosen few
Shot out with my people what you did, what you do?
Gotta get down cause it used to be my place
So I placed it first time right on my myspace
Iron like a lion - The last days of zion
all you haters all around want my land - stop tryin
People killin, People dyin, but it just aint right
Moshiachs gonna bring back our respect tonite!
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
No I dont understand how a man can give the land to a man who wasnt there
just because they got rocks in their hand,trade in rocks and they want to go BANG
Orders like they came from IRAN, runaround joke average land
Man they worse than the Klu Klux Klan, take off the robe and throw on a tan
Hold up
I cant get this peace plan
Or should I say a plan to get a piece of my land
Politicians show the peace sign with the other one jammed
Behind their backs with a whip and a gun in their hand
Man ill be honest, I really dont want this war
I just want our redeemer to come and take the floor
And Im sorry Im rowdy it is whats in store
My mentor says I write no more but Im raw
So if you look at my body you cant read my soul
I just roll up my body and I pay that toll
And if you ask why orange is in most of the rhymes
I stand with my people, I be a Israelite!
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
We got a King, you see Hashem is incredible
The king sent out his soldiers but then to be a general
Not talking politics or anything federal
Cant feed me them lies, the lies are so visceral
So Keep your money, and Ill keep my milk and honey
But freak you want your whole cake where you comin?
Amalek, disaffect, and dollar make you holler
Demons dressed up in suits, but their crime is white collar
Oh Moshiach, do we have to live this way?
Blam Blam in your ban livin up with the land
...
Disappear and turn back and better yet ex nihlo
And were low, you learn and know what we know
The more you learn the more you know do lose your kilo, amigo
were about to see the true light
Moshiach here my dear we no longer need to fight
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites
You cant mess with the Israelites, Israelites

 Woow very good lyrics. I was listining and reading the lyrics at the same time- understood it much better (you made a few mistakes though).

[schrodinger's cat]

Jewda friended me on facebook.  He seems like a nice guy, his profile says he is a Lubavicter and a conservative.

I don't reallty like rap though. But I do like some of Matisyahu's songs, especially "Jerusalem"

[muman613]

IRON LIKE A LION - Jew Dah Maccabee

Iron like a lion
Iron like a lion
Iron like a lion
Stop wait, I need to elevate
I was formed like a rock but this water penetrate
Its time to meditate like a musical soul Im tryin to get a hold but my minds in control
And my soul be attached like umbillical cord to the L-rd Hashem Elokim theres ONE G-d
So remove the shade of your infinite light show us sight and light up the darkest of nights
Cause Im an Israelite who's sworn before birth to be righteous not evil so for all that Im worth
I thank G-d I was blessed and not cursed
Without water man Im dying of thirst
So I look up the heaven
And he will stop our cryin
Believe in Moshiach
And return us to Zion
Cause Im Iron like a lion in Zion!
La La, La La, La La
Iron like a lion!
I had a dream I was standing at Mount Sinai stone
I was blinded by the light which came off from his throne
And then the sky opened up like a dome
Hashem was shone upon them my soul was thrown
In the beginning when my soul was blown
Im the original not talking no clone
Im a man made of flesh and bone still listen to commandments which are written in stone
Nothing is strange, its not been changed or rearranged
Written on the same page different time on the same stage
Numbered in days but they say its a phase
They say Im looking for myself, What? you think its a maze?
Yeah its a new age, I wish you stuck with your text
We're generation of Moshiach, Why you calling us X?
Yeah its a new age, I wish you stuck with your text
We're generation of Moshiach, Why you calling us X?
Iron!
My souls a compartment my body is Egypt and my heart be the tyrannt
Were sitting here silent when we got an assignment
Open up the Torah and read all the fine print
We find it spiritually in the balance physically and legally to be free
to practice what we need to be
Then I see the way we can break these chains
If we change the things we perceive to be vain
By clinging to the mighty name, blessed be he
And Im blessed to see how its best to be
Cause Im a vessel of light
Speaking close to the mike
I promise to the man so I stand up and fight
Cause even if I die trying Im not scared
Like the spies telling me that we're dealing with giants
And we'll be Iron, Like a Lion, In Zion!

[muman613]

Tzvi,

Could you help me with the lyrics I got wrong... I know i guessed on a couple words...

muman613

[White Israelite]

We should not be embracing black culture, rap music belongs to the negros.

[muman613]

We should not be embracing black culture, rap music belongs to the negros.

Well, thats your opinion. I happen to like a few forms of music which the African american contributed greatly. These include Blues, Rock, and Reggae. There is nothing wrong with the music. I have been a vocal critic of Gansta rap because it has immoral lyrics. But there is nothing intrinsically wrong with music.

I happen to know a few good Jews who are african american. And as others have said here, there is nothing wrong with the people, it is the culture.

I like the beat, the words and the feeling which I get when I listen to this music. If you dont understand, take a few years and you will...

muman613

PS: It is common Jewish wisdom to learn from everyone around you and to not think you know it all. I have learned from every encounter with people different from me.

[muman613]

Ecclesiastes - Chapter 3

1. Everything has an appointed season, and there is a time for every matter under the heaven.
2. A time to give birth and a time to die; a time to plant and a time to uproot that which is planted.
3. A time to kill and a time to heal; a time to break and a time to build.
4. A time to weep and a time to laugh; a time of wailing and a time of dancing.
5. A time to cast stones and a time to gather stones; a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing.
6. A time to seek and a time to lose; a time to keep and a time to cast away.
7. A time to rend and a time to sew; a time to be silent and a time to speak.
8. A time to love and a time to hate; a time for war and a time for peace.
9. What profit has the one who works in that which he toils?
10. I have seen the occupation that God gave to the sons of men with which to occupy themselves.
11. He has made everything beautiful in its time; also the [wisdom of] the world He put into their hearts, save that man should not find the deed which God did, from beginning to end.
12. I knew that there is nothing better for them but to rejoice and to do good during his lifetime.
13. And also, every man who eats and drinks and enjoys what is good in all his toil, it is a gift of God.
14. I knew that everything that God made, that will be forever; we cannot add to it, nor can we subtract from it; and God made it so that they fear Him.
15. That which was is already [done], and that which is [destined] to be, already was, and God seeks the pursued.
16. And moreover, I saw under the sun, [in] the place of justice, there is wickedness, and [in] the place of righteousness, there is wickedness.
17. I said to myself, "God will judge the righteous and the wicked, for there is a time for every matter and for every deed there."
18. I said to myself, [that this is] because of the children of men, so that God should clarify for them, so that they may see that they are [like] beasts to themselves.
19. For there is a happening for the children of men, and there is a happening for the beasts-and they have one happening-like the death of this one is the death of that one, and all have one spirit, and the superiority of man over beast is nought, for all is vanity.
20. All go to one place; all came from the dust, and all return to the dust.
21. Who knows that the spirit of the children of men is that which ascends on high and the spirit of the beast is that which descends below to the earth?
22. And I saw that there is nothing better than that man rejoice in his deeds, for that is his portion, for who will bring him to see what will be after him?

[Rubystars]

I also think it's terrible for them to act like blacks.  If they have a great message why not find a better musical medium?

[Scriabin]

I also think it's terrible for them to act like blacks.  If they have a great message why not find a better musical medium?

Precisely. 



You're a wuss if you feel nothing after listening to the last three minutes of this!

[Americanhero1]

I also think it's terrible for them to act like blacks.  If they have a great message why not find a better musical medium?

Precisely. 



You're a wuss if you feel nothing after listening to the last three minutes of this!

I feel nothing lol
It was good
I still like rock music

[Scriabin]

I also think it's terrible for them to act like blacks.  If they have a great message why not find a better musical medium?

Precisely. 



You're a wuss if you feel nothing after listening to the last three minutes of this!

I feel nothing lol
It was good
I still like rock music

I understand.

This music is for thinking, feeling people.

Read the big, red words again.

[Americanhero1]

I also think it's terrible for them to act like blacks.  If they have a great message why not find a better musical medium?

Precisely. 



You're a wuss if you feel nothing after listening to the last three minutes of this!

I feel nothing lol
It was good
I still like rock music

I understand.

This music is for thinking, feeling people.

Read the big, red words again.

I am the only one in my family who likes classical and who can play some

[Scriabin]

I also think it's terrible for them to act like blacks.  If they have a great message why not find a better musical medium?

Precisely. 



You're a wuss if you feel nothing after listening to the last three minutes of this!

I feel nothing lol
It was good
I still like rock music

I understand.

This music is for thinking, feeling people.

Read the big, red words again.

I am the only one in my family who likes classical and who can play some

'Classical' is a bad label.

Replace 'classical' with the word 'Great' and you'll be a straight shooter.

[Americanhero1]

I also think it's terrible for them to act like blacks.  If they have a great message why not find a better musical medium?

Precisely. 



You're a wuss if you feel nothing after listening to the last three minutes of this!

I feel nothing lol
It was good
I still like rock music

I understand.

This music is for thinking, feeling people.

Read the big, red words again.

I am the only one in my family who likes classical and who can play some

'Classical' is a bad label.

Replace 'classical' with the word 'Great' and you'll be a straight shooter.

OK then GREAT music

[Scriabin]

I also think it's terrible for them to act like blacks.  If they have a great message why not find a better musical medium?

Precisely. 



You're a wuss if you feel nothing after listening to the last three minutes of this!

I feel nothing lol
It was good
I still like rock music

I understand.

This music is for thinking, feeling people.

Read the big, red words again.

I am the only one in my family who likes classical and who can play some

'Classical' is a bad label.

Replace 'classical' with the word 'Great' and you'll be a straight shooter.

OK then GREAT music

Bravo!

[muman613]

As I said above,

There is a time and a place for everything

I like all kinds of music, Klezmer, Rock, Electronic, Acapella, Israeli, Traditional Jewish, Progressive Rock, Hard Rock, Metal, Blues, Reggae, and Grateful Dead {was a deadhead for 16 years}.

There is a time for Classical too. It is soothing and moving, that I agree.

But that is no reason to be a music snob.

muman613

[Americanhero1]

As I said above,

There is a time and a place for everything

I like all kinds of music, Klezmer, Rock, Electronic, Acapella, Israeli, Traditional Jewish, Progressive Rock, Hard Rock, Metal, Blues, Reggae, and Grateful Dead {was a deadhead for 16 years}.

There is a time for Classical too. It is soothing and moving, that I agree.

But that is no reason to be a music snob.

muman613

What is Klezmer?

[muman613]

As I said above,

There is a time and a place for everything

I like all kinds of music, Klezmer, Rock, Electronic, Acapella, Israeli, Traditional Jewish, Progressive Rock, Hard Rock, Metal, Blues, Reggae, and Grateful Dead {was a deadhead for 16 years}.

There is a time for Classical too. It is soothing and moving, that I agree.

But that is no reason to be a music snob.

muman613

What is Klezmer?

Hi AmericanHero,

Well, I thought I would describe it but I just did a wiki search and its description sounds right:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klezmer

Klezmer (from Yiddish כּלי־זמיר, kley - instrument and zemer - song; etymologically from Hebrew k'li zemer כלי זמר, "musical instrument") is a musical tradition which parallels Hasidic and Ashkenazic Judaism. Around the 15th century, a tradition of secular (non-liturgical) Jewish music was developed by musicians called kleyzmorim or kleyzmurim. They draw on devotional traditions extending back into Biblical times, and their musical legacy of klezmer continues to evolve today. The repertoire is largely dance songs for weddings and other celebrations. Due to the Ashkenazi lineage of this music, the lyrics, terminology and song titles are typically in Yiddish.

Originally, klezmer (plural klezmorim) referred to musical instruments, and was later extended to refer to musicians themselves. It was not until the mid-to-late 20th Century that the word was used to identify a musical genre. Early 20th Century recordings and writings most often refer to the style as "Yiddish" music, although it is also sometimes called Freilech music.

You know the popular rendition of Hava Negilah, that is Klezmer style.. A lot of horns and violins.

    * The freylekhs (also bulgar, bulgarish - literally "Bulgarian", volekhl/vulekhl - literally "Wallachian", or "Romanian") is a (3+3+2 = /8 circle dance, usually in the Ahava Rabboh melodic mode. Typically piano, accordion, or bass plays a duple oom-pah beat. These are by far the most popular klezmer dances. The name "Bulgar" (Yiddish "bulgarish", Romanian "bulgarească") probably refers to the Bulgarian minority in southern Bessarabia, although their association with this particular dance has long been forgotten.
    * The sher is a set dance in 2/4. It is one of the most common klezmer dances.
    * The khosidl, or khusidl, named after the Hasidic Jews who danced it, is a more dignified embellished dance in 2/4 or 4/4. The dance steps can be performed in a circle or in a line.
    * The hora or zhok is a Romanian-style dance in a hobbling 3/8 time with beats on 1 and 3, and is even more embellished. The Israeli hora derives its roots from the Moldavian hora.
    * The kolomeike is a fast and catchy dance in 2/4 time, which originated in Ukraine, and is prominent in the folk music of that country.
    * The terkish is a 4/4 dance like the habanera. Terk in America is one famous arrangement by Naftule Brandwein, who used this form extensively.
    * The skotshne ("hopping") could be an instrumental display piece, but also a dance piece, like a more elaborate freylekhs.
    * The nigun, which means "melody" in both Yiddish and Hebrew, a mid-paced song in 2/4.
    * Waltzes were very popular, whether classical, Russian, or Polish. A padespan was a sort of Russian/Spanish waltz known to klezmers.
    * The mazurka and polka, Polish and Czech dances, respectively, were often played for both Jews and Gentiles.
    * Cakewalks were African-American folk dances popular around the start of the 20th century, even among Eastern European Jews.
    * The csárdás is a Hungarian dance popular among the Jews of Hungary, Slovakia, and the Carpathians. It started off slowly and gradually increased in tempo.
    * The sîrba, a Romanian dance in 2/3 or 2/4. It features hopping steps and short bursts of running, accompanied by triplets in the melody.
    * The Humoresque 'Halaka' dance, a traditional Israeli dance from Safed in Galilee; it has an ancient melody handed down from generation to generation.
    * The tango, the well-known dance that originated in Argentina. These were extremely popular around the world in the 1930s, and many Eastern European tangos were originally written by Jews.

There are some very talented Klezmer bands out there... Let me find the link...

http://www.mostlymusic.com/

That is where I get my klezmer stuff...

muman613

[Scriabin]

There is a time and a place for everything

But that is no reason to be a music snob.

Wrong.

There's EVERY reason.

[muman613]

There is a time and a place for everything

But that is no reason to be a music snob.

Wrong.

There's EVERY reason.

Ok, you can have your classical music bubble. Close your ears and your mind, you have the right. But you should not try to enforce that everyone should like the music you like.

I am very glad you love Classical music. But it is not suited for every time. Maybe you dont get tired of hearing the same music again and again. Hashem told us to enjoy the fruits of life and not to cut ourselves off from the good things. For you it is Classical music which provides all your satisfaction. But for me it requires a bit more than one style.

Art is very subjective and to each his own. As long as it is not immoral and it inspires for the good. I draw a line in my enjoyment of Heavy Metal as some bands go very far into Avodah Zarah and I will not countenance that. But I am not so hard as to say there is no good in Heavy metal. I will rebuke the bands which I find objectionable.

I was called a racist back in the mid 90's because I didnt like rap music. I had said many times I only hated gangsta rap, yet they still called me racist. Those flame wars are still archived online but at the time I used a different Nickname. Some people may still think I am racist because I dont like gangsta rap, but I am not a racist. I judge people and things by whether they are ultimately working for good or bad ends.

How many Concertos have you been to? When I was young I played in Orchestra and played viola. My parents were into the museums and arts and we went into NYC to see a couple Concerts. I appreciate the style but dont enjoy it much. I dont enjoy Led Zepplin very much because it is so overplayed. And Classical music often sounds redundant.

Anyway, have a good night

muman613