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Sad and Disgusted
« on: February 13, 2007, 02:01:34 AM »
As a Jew this website and this group as saddened me. Seeing racist doctrine being spewed out by "righteous" Jews or any Jew or any person is disgusting.
When I read point 5 in the jtf's 7 point plan (reproduced below) I wanted to cry.
POINT FIVE: An immediate end to all foreign immigration into the United States, combined with the complete expulsion of America's millions of illegal aliens and the stringent removal of her legal ones at the expiration of their work or residency visas.
Have you forgotten that only two generations ago, we were immigrants to this country? Where does the jtf get the idea that it can ban immigration. And my final question is, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE SECURITY OF ISRAEL??
What is the point of the jtf? What good does slander of politicians who have been dead for 20+ years serve?
This group is nothing more than a hate group hiding behind the facade of people who love Judaism and Israel. You people will be the end of Judaism, not people who seek peace.

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Re: Sad and Disgusted
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2007, 02:48:21 AM »
As a Jew this website and this group as saddened me. Seeing racist doctrine being spewed out by "righteous" Jews or any Jew or any person is disgusting.
When I read point 5 in the jtf's 7 point plan (reproduced below) I wanted to cry.
POINT FIVE: An immediate end to all foreign immigration into the United States, combined with the complete expulsion of America's millions of illegal aliens and the stringent removal of her legal ones at the expiration of their work or residency visas.
Have you forgotten that only two generations ago, we were immigrants to this country? Where does the jtf get the idea that it can ban immigration. And my final question is, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE SECURITY OF ISRAEL??
What is the point of the jtf? What good does slander of politicians who have been dead for 20+ years serve?
This group is nothing more than a hate group hiding behind the facade of people who love Judaism and Israel. You people will be the end of Judaism, not people who seek peace.

Signed
Ashamed

Oh no! Another self-hating Jewish wimp who seeks "peace" with all of the murderous sworn enemies of the Jewish people.

Who do you want "peace" with? The Arab Muslim Nazis who have attempted for over 100 years to perpetrate a holocaust against the Jews in the Land of Israel? The Arab Muslim Nazis whose monstrous religion commands them to forcibly convert or physically exterminate all non-Muslim "infidels"? The Arab Muslim Nazis who already control 99.6% of the Middle East, but who will never be satisfied until they control 100% by annihilating tiny Israel?

You are upset that we are against the Third World invasion of America? It is "racist" to protect America's borders?

Why don't you go live in a black neighborhood? You wouldn't! That means you're a racist segregationist. And you come here peddling your left-wing hypocrisy.

You write that you're "Ashamed". YOU SHOULD BE! YOU ARE A SELF-HATING, COWARDLY JEW. YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO BOTH ISRAEL AND AMERICA.

But I urge the admins here to allow you to spout your apalling ignorance. You know nothing about Judaism or the Torah. You would not know a Jewish concept if you tripped over it. An uncircumcised Irish American Gentile like me knows much more about Judaism, Jewish history and Israel than you do. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!

I'm so happy that JTF drives assimilated, self-hating Jews like you crazy. It makes me proud to be part of this great movement!




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Re: Sad and Disgusted
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2007, 07:06:19 AM »
If the idea that we want an immigration policy that reflects the fact that we have enough people in this country causes pain in your vagina, then good.  What, you want unlimited immigration into the USA?


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Re: Sad and Disgusted
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2007, 09:30:00 AM »
POINT FIVE: An immediate end to all foreign immigration into the United States, combined with the complete expulsion of America's millions of illegal aliens and the stringent removal of her legal ones at the expiration of their work or residency visas.
Have you forgotten that only two generations ago, we were immigrants to this country? Where does the jtf get the idea that it can ban immigration. And my final question is, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE SECURITY OF ISRAEL??
What is the point of the jtf? What good does slander of politicians who have been dead for 20+ years serve?
This group is nothing more than a hate group hiding behind the facade of people who love Judaism and Israel. You people will be the end of Judaism, not people who seek peace.
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Dear Ashamed, as you rightly should be.  Ending, not all immigration but only immigration from NON-Judeo-Christian States into the United States of foreign nationals who have no intention of embracing or accepting the American Judeo-Christian culture is both logical and moral if one wishes to keep America the great progressive beacon to the World: civilly, economically and spiritually stable.  "Multiculturalism", "diversity" and the "Melting Pot" do not and have never worked between strongly opposing cultures, faiths and political schemas: Canada, France, England, Holland, Denmark, Sweden etc. for direct examples. 

I don't know about JTF but I get the idea of banning immigration every time I walk down the street seeing peoples of uncivilized cultures from the most diabolical murderous religions [censored] on America in wanting to change Rome rather than "When in Rome".  Just asking the question: "WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE SECURITY OF ISRAEL?" identifies to me that your head is stuck in the sand or you are so brainwashed with something so un-Jewish and purely Marxist "Politically Correct" propaganda you have not understood any of the last 30 years+ of Islamic and Communist expansionism working from within your own midst.  Those working to degrade and/or undermine America are the exact same ones who have already accomplished their goals in Europe: Denmark, Holland, France, Spain and even the UK.  I suggest strongly you pull your head out of the G-dless "Utopian" Leftist propaganda pro-UN, "West Bank", "Balestinian Beople", Edward Said, Susan Sontag, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Michael Moore, Noam Chumpsky and Finkelstein Stalinist propaganda books, abandon Reform "Judaism" for the real thing.  Perhaps then you will find true wisdom and a bit of self respect at the same time.  It saddens me everytime an unlearned Jew comes on here and spews his/her arrogance.   

JTF has many good points, listen, read and learn there are always two sides (with many variations) to any position be it social or political.  Ask yourself: "Why is it the public, by and large, only receives the Liberal/Socialist Leftist point of view?"  Perhaps when you realize this you will see there is a true need for JTF.  Slandering vulgar politicians and other self loathing figures is both acceptable and moral in keeping the population knowledge of the facts and to assist in assuring those in the future not to follow in the same footsteps as these dispicable human beings.  Ask yourself the same question about Martin Luther King Jr and Yassir Arafat.  Do you feel it acceptable that your Socialist Judenrot friends have assisted in the pure fabrication of an entire "Balestinian Beoble", aided in their mass murdering terrorist Marxist homosexual leader "Yasshole Arafag" attaining a "Nobel Peace Prize" which equates a mass murderer of Americans, Israelis, Jews, Christians, Druze etc. with Mother Theresa?  Perhaps you might ask yourself, if you have an education, how the ilk you are so fond of could award MLKjr with a Ph.D and a Rev title when he had plagiarized immensely, embezzled masses of funds to pay for his whores and booze and was a G-dless Communist who worked directly to create racial conflict wherever he went to forward the Marxist Dialectical Materialist goals.

Your last statement is one, not out of knowledge, but one of pure ignorance.  In times when it is openly acceptable to defame or slander the Jew, Christian, America, democracy, Israel and ol-Whitey you dare to come here with a closed mind.  Does not the Talmud not say "Those who are kind to the cruel in the end will be cruel to the kind."?  Does not the Torah say "Thou shalt not stand idly by thy brother's blood."?  Your ignorance and arrogance is insulting to me as a Jew who sees another lost Jew supporting kindness to the cruel and standing idly by thy brother's blood."

Please feel free to check each and every fact yourself to what is aformentioned.  Should you feel the urge to ask, question or debate on this site with any of us you will be more than welcome as we are open minded to learn and tolerant of others opinions BUT we do not feel one must be "tolerant" of intolerance or "open minded" to closed mindedness"If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?" - Scott Adams
« Last Edit: February 13, 2007, 11:28:52 AM by Marzutra »
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Sad and Disgusted
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2007, 11:38:27 AM »

Oh no! Another self-hating Jewish wimp who seeks "peace" with all of the murderous sworn enemies of the Jewish people.

Who do you want "peace" with? The Arab Muslim Nazis who have attempted for over 100 years to perpetrate a holocaust against the Jews in the Land of Israel? The Arab Muslim Nazis whose monstrous religion commands them to forcibly convert or physically exterminate all non-Muslim "infidels"? The Arab Muslim Nazis who already control 99.6% of the Middle East, but who will never be satisfied until they control 100% by annihilating tiny Israel?

You are upset that we are against the Third World invasion of America? It is "racist" to protect America's borders?

Why don't you go live in a black neighborhood? You wouldn't! That means you're a racist segregationist. And you come here peddling your left-wing hypocrisy.

You write that you're "Ashamed". YOU SHOULD BE! YOU ARE A SELF-HATING, COWARDLY JEW. YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO BOTH ISRAEL AND AMERICA.

But I urge the admins here to allow you to spout your apalling ignorance. You know nothing about Judaism or the Torah. You would not know a Jewish concept if you tripped over it. An uncircumcised Irish American Gentile like me knows much more about Judaism, Jewish history and Israel than you do. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!

I'm so happy that JTF drives assimilated, self-hating Jews like you crazy. It makes me proud to be part of this great movement!





HAHA Jimmy, that was great! ;D ;D 
I wish what you wrote could be laminated on a plaque and hung around "Ashamed" 's neck. It's obvious to me you've got more of a Jewish nephesh (soul) than that self-hater ever will! :D

Ashamed: Try summoning up some Jewish pride and read The Five Books of Moses, i.e. Genesis through Deuteronomy. When you do you will discover for yourself the kind of strong warrior Jew G-d favors.

Then do some soul-searching. Hopefully, t'shuva will follow.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2007, 11:40:16 AM by yephora »

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Re: Sad and Disgusted
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2007, 01:23:53 PM »
I love how he compares those of us whose ancestors immigrated to this country legally and worked their fingers to the bone to give their children an education to these third world hordes who are destroying this nation.

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Re: Sad and Disgusted
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2007, 01:44:35 PM »
Our grandparents came to this country with the intention of getting jobs, raising families, and sharing in American values. Unfortunately, with the exception of Asians, the people who come here do not work, demand the government wipe their asses for them, and then call the ACLU when they don't get what they want. They have taken this country hostage.


And your moniker should be read as Asha-med because you sound like a jealous Muslim-Nazi.

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2007, 01:52:46 PM »
Does Current Immigration Policy  Doom American Jewry?

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2007, 02:09:08 PM »
You mentioned something worthy of expansion Jabo.  The ACLU was formed by the British Fabian Society for the sole purpose of turning America into a Socialist State.  The ACLU's aims are to subvert/undermine the American Constitution, promulgate Socialism and to provide legal protection to any Communists and/or Socialists who have been exposed.  This in mind one can see plainly why the ACLU plays such a big role of defending the drek of society and "progressing" the collapse of America.  PS: Tony Blair is a member of the Fabian Society along with H.G.Wells, Beatrice/Stanley Webb, Bernard Shaw and many others...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Sad and Disgusted
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2007, 02:41:53 PM »
"As a Jew this website and this group as saddened me."

-Me too!...There are so few members...maybe it'll get better.

"Seeing racist doctrine being spewed out by "righteous" Jews or any Jew or any person is disgusting.

-I agree; JTF stands for Civil Rights -- that's exactly why we must work to stop Abe Foxman & the other Kikes like the American Jewish Committee; all of whom spew and promote racism and hate.
   
"When I read point 5 in the jtf's 7 point plan (reproduced below) I wanted to cry."

(POINT FIVE: An immediate end to all foreign immigration into the United States, combined with the complete expulsion of America's millions of illegal aliens and the stringent removal of her legal ones at the expiration of their work or residency visas.)

-Of course you want to cry!
I cry every time I read the JTF Platform; just knowing that it is not yet implemented is most distressing!

"Have you forgotten that only two generations ago, we were immigrants to this country?"

-Huh?...What are you talking about?...My ancestor was the Attorney General of the Confederate States of America.

"Where does the jtf get the idea that it can ban immigration?"

-Same place that you get your idea that we can't ban immigration.

"And my final question is, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE SECURITY OF ISRAEL??"

-Why, EVERYTHING.
Israel's security is the responsibility of Israel ONLY...Only Israel can guaranty its own survival and viability.
The last thing Israel needs is handouts, foreign aid, and the "approval" of foreigners...what Israel NEEDS is to get off of its lazy, all-too-comfortable butt, and VANQUISH PERMANENTLY those who refuse to live in peace with Israel (and that includes all Muslims, as well as any other Arabs & self-hating Jew-kikes living within Israel.

"What is the point of the jtf?"

-I already told you:  Peace & Civil Rights!

"What good does slander of politicians who have been dead for 20+ years serve?"

-The TRUTH will always out.
Not to mention the fact that speaking truth to the living, about DEAD EVIL POLITICIANS, accomplishes more than does celebrating MLK Day & Rabin Day.
 
"This group is nothing more than a hate group hiding behind the facade of people who love Judaism and Israel."

-Look; MAKE UP YOUR MIND!...
We can't be people who love Judaism and Israel, and simultaneously be hiding behind a facade of ourselves as a hate group!!!.....you stupid or somethin'?

"You people will be the end of Judaism, not people who seek peace."

-Too late for that; those treasonous kikes Rabin, Peres, Netanyahu,
Sharon, & Olmert, along with the mentally ill & fraudulent American "Jewish Leadership", ended Judaism a long time ago.

-We don't want to be "people who 'seek' peace".

-We want to be remembered as the generation of Jews who MADE PEACE the old fashioned way; following Ha'Shem's orders to "take possession of the Land", "totally and completely annihilate our enemies", "make no treaty" with Amalek, and "destroy Amalek in every generation".

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Re: Sad and Disgusted
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2007, 10:12:31 PM »
Ashamed could be a complete troll or prankster. It might be some random Gentile anti-Semite. It might even be one of us playing a joke. I say if we don't give him the time of day, he will go.

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2007, 10:39:22 PM »
Well, I guess I am not surprised.

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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2007, 07:12:04 AM »
This guy isn't ashamed he is mentally ill. The hordes that are flooding our shores and the the shores of Europe are peoples that cannot assimilate, nor do they want to. They have lowered the standards of living for all the hosts countries they infest. They do not share Judeo-Christian values nor asy sense of how to act in a civilized society. They come here expecting everything for free, free medical care, free SSI for their sickly, low IQ tubcular nitwit children, social security for there extended members of their tribe etc, etc. I used to include free education but considering the high drop out rate of these immigrants I have come to conclusion that what they consider education is free breakfest and lunch (so the parents don't have to use their free food stamps), free medical screening such as hearing and site tests, free lice inspection and special ed for the uncontrolable future banditos. I love these liberals who what to trade my way of life for a turd world nation. The brown and black hordes that come to this country have destroyed their country and turned it into a cesspool that is so foul that they do not even want to live their anymore. They come to a new country and turn that into a turd world slum and when that becomes unlivable they will more on to another sucker country that will take them in and they will destroy that country also. It is a cycle that keeps repeating as long as we have people such as ashamed feeling sorry for them.

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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2007, 08:25:30 AM »
You might consider sending him an email to pose specific questions to his Rabbi allowing for the true Jewish answer to be displayed to him.  It is so sad that students only have access to the Socialist/Leftist/UNJewish position/information.... :'(  Perhaps you can also invite his instructors on JTF forum for a debate to enlighten them also to their cating to mass disinformation and unJewishness....
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2007, 08:27:00 AM »
It is someone posting from a Jewish school. That is where I tracked the IP to.


Shocking.

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2007, 12:35:27 PM »
Have you forgotten that only two generations ago, we were immigrants to this country? Where does the jtf get the idea that it can ban immigration.

The people that immigrated to this country 2 generations ago, by and large were people that 1] Came here with the understanding that it's a privelige to settle here 2] Understood that with that privelige comes both the ability to live free and be self determining AND the responsability to give back to society in a way that makes this country so great. THE ANIMALS from 3rd world sewers that are INVADING this country now 1] FEEL THEY ARE OWED SOMETHING BY THE US 2] ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN GETTING OVER IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE and 3] HATE AMERICA!!!! Wake up!!