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Dan Ben Noah:
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Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
heretical notions within Chasidism
This is a wrong assumption and a scapegoat. Just labeling "Chassidism" gives the false impression that it is only Chassidim, but it is NOT true.
such as reincarnation
Again comes from Zohar, and other sources, not originates from Chassidim.
praying to men
100% agree, it is wrong. Would not say 100% its Chassidism, but it is true that it can be a problem, and is wrong to do (infact the Zohar and sages speak agains't it, and Rabbis do speak again'st it).
the idea that the Jewish soul is superior to the Gentile soul
That's not even the Zohar, or Chassidim, or Hazal. It is openly written in the Tannach. Sorry to disappoint you, but I didn't write the Tannach- G-d did. (maybe on an individual level maybe, one can claim something, but still as a whole their is no comparison).
the holiness contained in someone's beard
I dont know much about it, but that comes from the Zohar, not Chassidim. and Halacha also deals with it (and the lenient opinion of shaving with a machine is minority- I mean having almost no hair on the beard.)
the corruption of the Tanya
I wouldn't know. But I find it kind of ironic that this person rejects Chassidim and then says that their (of of the groups) books is corrupted, maybe trying to be politically correct, or not as controversial.
q_q_:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on September 17, 2008, 09:51:54 PM ---Orthodox Rabbi Moshe Ben Chaim hosts an open chat forum for listeners, answering questions on heretical notions within Chasidism, such as reincarnation, praying to men, the idea that the Jewish soul is superior to the Gentile soul, the holiness contained in someone's beard, the corruption of the Tanya, and more. For more, go to
www.mesora.org
www.mesora.org
--- End quote ---
I am a bit famliar with that site.
That rabbi is against Tanya(the core chassidic mystical text) full stop.
His position against mysticism is inconsistent.
He does give a nod to the RAMBAN's mysticism, but it doesn't bother him because it's kept secret, to be learnt from a wise man to his student, and the RAMBAN says others shouldn't delve. So it doesn't give him much to criticise. Infact he quotes the RAMBAN to get people to leave it alone.
I haven't seen him pick on a bigger target like the great kabbalist the Arizal. The Arizal is respected by both Chassidim and Misnagdim. Or the RAMCHAL.
The most "rejectionist" position I have seen is from an unreliable maimonidean, that rejected every kabbalist, the RAMBAN, Ari, chassidut, e.t.c. At least that's more consistent than this rabbi you mention.
I have communicated with him over one issue, and he does write clearly and isn't boring to read. I will listen to that.
I knew an anti missionary that really liked his site.
q_q_:
you know it's amazing..
you hear shiurim in shul around mincha, and sometimes they're quite organised and in depth, if only they could be recorded.
Yet people blabber on a microphone, and record it on the internet, and people like it.
This audio was like walking into the middle of a telephone conversation..
How are you? good? How are you? good.. You know guy/phil/moshe was writing about Sharon. Apparently she's a man, I thought she was a woman.. or the other way around,, or whatever.. And that was the interesting part.
Somewhere he mentions some chabad shul that won't help noachides because they think jews have superior souls. The R says it's ego that makes them believe that.
This is all pure irrelevance.
Clearly very little thought was put into the recording.
No real serious theological discussion.
His written text is better. I have heard one of his audios once, it was better than this.
But I find most audio shiurim online, from any rabbi, to be pretty bad. For some reason it's dominated by outreach groups that do audios rather than serious articles.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on September 23, 2008, 06:43:41 AM ---Somewhere he mentions some chabad shul that won't help noachides because they think jews have superior souls. The R says it's ego that makes them believe that.
--- End quote ---
LOL, that's completely contrary to Chabad. For anyone without a complete ignorance, that doesn't suffice as any kind of argument. Granted I haven't listened to the audio.... And probably won't have time..... Especially not after your review, qq! So thanks.
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