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DALMACIJA:
Pheasant,
For right wing politicians national security, a strong military presence and the interests of the domestic people (autochthones) are the highest priorities.
The left wing organizations are of the opinion that equality among people is the number one priority. They represent as well the interest of the domestic nation as the interests of the national minorities. But they always set up one condition and that is: “the equality between the people and nations.”
Serbs who live in the Republic of Serbia mostly vote for “right” parties whose main priority is the interest of the domestic nation and of the other citizens of Serbia.
But Serbian minorities for example in Croatia – will not vote for right wing parties.
They prefer the Croatian left wing parties.
That is understandable, for national minorities it is not responsible to vote for extreme right wing parties! Neither is it normal that representatives of a national minority will form a coalition with an right wing party.
It is familiar that extreme right wing parties in Germany, Austria and Croatia (former fascist countries) are not popular among national minorities. The political program of these parties has more in common with Hitler’s party than with the left wing parties.
You often say, on this forum, that fascists and national socialists are the same as Bolshevik and leftists?
Do you agree with the following:
The only common characteristic which I can find between Bolsheviks and Fascists is that they were both murderers. The fascists of Hitler’s Europe had killed their victims for the interest of the domestic nations of the fascist alliance. In Serbia the communists had killed the domestic people (Serbs) in order to establish unity and equality among the Yugoslavian nations. In Russia the communist had also no mercy for the domestic nation. The communists and fascists were both murderers in their own way.
The program of the Nazis was to expel or extermination the minorities.
In Germany the Jews, Gypsies and even some Slavs were exposed to an extermination process. In occupied Croatia and Bosnia the Nazis added the extermination Orthodox Serbs.
How can you call Nazis left wing?
Left wing parties aim for total equality, sometimes to the disadvantage of the domestic nation. Is not this in contradiction to the right wing parties?
Why do not national minorities, for example in the former fascist countries (Croatia, Hungary, Germany and Austria), vote for right wing parties?
The answer is because right wing parties are reminding them to the Nazis.
You can not expect that a Serb in Croatia will prefer a righting wing party above a left wing option. It is juts not natural to say that Nazis are left. I can not understand that!
Sorry for the long tekst!
AryehYehudah:
--- Quote ---It is familiar that extreme right wing parties in Germany, Austria and Croatia (former fascist countries) are not popular among national minorities. The political program of these parties has more in common with Hitler’s party than with the left wing parties.
You often say, on this forum, that fascists and national socialists are the same as Bolshevik and leftists?
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They are the ultra-left. Nazi = National "Socialists"
Nazism was not a monolithic movement, but rather a (mainly German) combination of various ideologies and groups, sparked by anger at the Treaty of Versailles and what was considered to have been a Jewish/Communist conspiracy (known in the vernacular as the Dolchstoßlegende or “Stab-in-the-Back Legend”) to humiliate Germany at the end of the First World War. The "National Socialist Program" of 1920 was the formulation of the Austrian German Workers Party's policies, which was, in turn, copied by the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nazi party). This Nazi party came to power in the aftermath of the Great Depression in 1933, which they blamed on capitalism and believed in a "Third Position" between capitalism and communism.
How can you call a party , far right, when they have a fundamental belief that capitalism was the reason for the downfall. Hitler was all for redistribution of wealth. Of course, he believed that white Germans and the other so-called "Aryans" should get most of it. As far as their policies, they are beyond what communists imposed. True, many communists had strict moral codes, but this in no way made them "right-wing". You seem to have a vague understanding of what most people here believe as to be "Far-RIght". Leftists, believe in attacking traditional Christian and Jewish values, which the Nazis were grounded in Pagan mythology mixed with Lutheranism and Catholicism. THey had their own bizaree belief system that went on ideologies common among many liberal pagans, such as the black supremacists you see in America. Nazis like communists had a belief in giving first priority to the "State" and "LEader". This mimics very much how Stalin ran his government. People would also praise the name of the leader and honor him like their G-d.
Everyone has their opinion of left and right, but in the context of Jewish people, we know what "Right" means. Leftists are those who stray away from capitalist and democratic government; as well as adopt other types of religions or fundamental beliefs than the CHristian and Jewish religions such as atheism/stateism (Communists) or paganism/leader worship (Nazis).
I am not an expert on the subject, but I know where these misconceptions arise. The Nazi party in EUropean countries are promoting a state-centered, anti-semitic agenda, with foundations in pagan mythology, which is agaisnt moral principles of a right-wing traditional Christian or Jewish governmnet.
Ulli:
I think the main differentiator in order to count a party to the right wing or the left wing is the view on the individual.
If the party wants to archieve, that the individual should have the greatest freedom possible and the greatest responsibility possible - the party is rightwing
A real rightwing party tries to enforce a real liberal and natural economic and social order.
This means, that they defend the autonomy of the individual, it's property, it's freedom of religion and it's economic freedom.
Nazis didn't believe this and of course they don't do this. They have the same ideas of social engeneering, welfare etc. like bolschewist parties, with the only difference, that they add to this whole marxists [censored] the racist garbage.
I think if JTF - the real right - not the so called right - would be an electable party in European countries a Serb could vote with clean conscious for it.
But this so called phony right wing movements are frauds and imo criminals (like the socialists).
Ambiorix:
--- Quote from: Pheasant on October 24, 2008, 03:42:54 PM ---I think the main differentiator in order to count a party to the right wing or the left wing is the view on the individual.
If the party wants to archieve, that the individual should have the greatest freedom possible and the greatest responsibility possible - the party is rightwing
A real rightwing party tries to enforce a real liberal and natural economic and social order.
This means, that they defend the autonomy of the individual, it's property, it's freedom of religion and it's economic freedom.
Nazis didn't believe this and of course they don't do this. They have the same ideas of social engeneering, welfare etc. like bolschewist parties, with the only difference, that they add to this whole marxists drek the racist garbage.
I think if JTF - the real right - not the so called right - would be an electable party in European countries a Serb could vote with clean conscious for it.
But this so called phony right wing movements are frauds and imo criminals (like the socialists).
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We will see how the political situation evoluates from now till 2050.
In my opinion, a major shift to the right will come, but probably too late, at the point that we indegenous people from Europe, are a minority.
The Eu will import millions of non-whites, to fuel the economy, and to care for the elderly.
Maybe, we will be able to win the resulting civil war, end to end "multi-culturalism".
I don't think that the debate about socialist racists versus liberal racists does matter really.
Fact is, that we live under a socialist government, and that our tactics must be to overthrow and replace it before it is too late.
Those who will refuse to fight the 1-worldistation forces of evil - or the muslims or other ennemies, will be eradicated.
Maybe a 3-d World War will prevent further turdworldisation of Europe and it's former majority white colonies.
I am sure that half of Europe at a certain point will be lost to islamic invaders.
They will be the majority in the hearth of Europe (Axis London-Paris-Brussel-Amsterdam) by 2030.
Ulli:
--- Quote ---The Eu will import millions of non-whites, to fuel the economy, and to care for the elderly.
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This is a legend. The main immigration comes from Muslim countries and this people are coming to our countries not in order of working, but in order of welfare.
They are not cheap workers, because they refuse to work like normal people, but they are coming because of welfare.
If we will enforce a real liberal market economy, this plague will be gone faster than we can see.
Egypt i.e. is spending is spending the wasp majority of it's budget for welfare, Saudi Arabia and Iran are doing the same.
Any form of Socialism is worse cancer than all quranimals on this whole world together, because Socialism is the source of evil and the source of all punishments from G-d, we suffer of.
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