I THINK THAT WE SHOULD FAST AND PRAY FOR THIS ELECTION!!!!!!

[~Hanna~]

DAVID WON AGAINST GOLIAH!!!!!!!!!!!![/glow]

I am not ready to concede this election to the liberals, just yet....

I know some of you might think I am being too religious...but this is really important, it really is....!!!!!

I think we should all fast and pray and watch what happens in this election......!!!!

Remember David and Goliath?

It LOOKED hopeless, but David went out there and fought ANYWAY!!

He did NOT give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


Can I get an AMEN???

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

I will fast on Jan 20th if that beast wins. It will be they day that ends America as we know it God Forbid 1000 times

[muman613]

DAVID WON AGAINST GOLIAH!!!!!!!!!!!![/glow]

I am not ready to concede this election to the liberals, just yet....

I know some of you might think I am being too religious...but this is really important, it really is....!!!!!

I think we should all fast and pray and watch what happens in this election......!!!!

Remember David and Goliath?

It LOOKED hopeless, but David went out there and fought ANYWAY!!

He did NOT give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


Can I get an AMEN???

Amen Hanna,

We are fasting for Yom Kippur this Thursday. What other day do you propose to be a fast day?

muman613

[~Hanna~]

DAVID WON AGAINST GOLIAH!!!!!!!!!!!![/glow]

I am not ready to concede this election to the liberals, just yet....

I know some of you might think I am being too religious...but this is really important, it really is....!!!!!

I think we should all fast and pray and watch what happens in this election......!!!!

Remember David and Goliath?

It LOOKED hopeless, but David went out there and fought ANYWAY!!

He did NOT give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


Can I get an AMEN???

Amen Hanna,

We are fasting for Yom Kippur this Thursday. What other day do you propose to be a fast day?

muman613

Hi Muman:

I am sitting here feeling that we should fast the day before the elections!!!!!

Yes, I think this would be good.......

WHAT DO YOU THINK???

anyone else have an opinion here??
Do you know what day that is by any chance?? 

[muman613]

Hanna,

If the election is held on November 4th, then the 3rd would be the day before...

You are asking for the Fast on Monday, November 3rd.

I dont see a problem with it. Though I dont think we ordinarily should afflict ourselves there have been occasions where it annulled Hashems evil decree. The most obvious is during the story of Purim, read in the Megillah Esther.

From OU website:

http://www.ou.org/chagim/roshchodesh/adar/thirteenth.htm
On the 13th of Adar (this year, 5764, the 11th - see explanation below), the Fast of Esther is observed in commemoration of the Fast observed by Mordechai and Esther and all Israel. On that very day, the enemies of the Jews had planned to subjugate and destroy them. The opposite, however, occurred and the Jews ruled over their enemies.

The practice of fasting was observed by the people of Israel whenever they were faced by war. Thus Moshe Rabenu also fasted when he came to wage war against Amalek. The aim of the fast was to affirm that a man does not prevail by physical or military strength, but only by lifting his eyes heavenward in prayer so that Divine Mercy might give him the strength to prevail in battle. This then was the purpose of the fast observed by Israel at the time of Haman, when they gathered to defend themselves against those who sought to destroy them. And in memory of that Fast, a yearly Fast was fixed for generations on the same day. We are to recall thereby that G-d accepts each person's prayer and penitence in the hour of his trouble.

The acceptance of this Fast of the 13th of Adar on the part of Israel for later generations is alluded to in the Scroll of Esther: 'And as they accepted upon themselves and upon their children, the matters of their fastings and their cry' (Esther 9).

The Fast is called by the name of Esther because it was she who first requested the observance of a fast, of Mordechai: 'Go and gather all the Jews who are found in Shushan and fast over me, and do not eat and do not drink three days, night and day; and I and my maidens will also fast thus.' (ibid. 4)

The fast which we observe is nevertheless not observed for a three-day period, as was the case with the original Fast, nor is it observed on the same date. Originally the Fast was observed by Esther and the entire people of Israel on the 14th, 15th and 16th of Nisan, immediately after Mordechai was informed of Haman's decree and of the letter of annihilation which Haman wrote on the 13th of Nisan. Our Fast however, is observed on the 13th of Adar, in memory of the Fast observed by Israel on the day of their mobilization for war against the enemies. The Fast is nevertheless called by the name of Esther since it was she who first proposed its observance.

Others hold the view, that even our Fast is also primarily a commemoration of the original three-day Fast observed by the Jews when the decree was announced. But since the Fast could not be permanently fixed for later years in its proper time (because fasting is not permitted during Nisan), the Sages therefore fixed it for the 13th of Adar - which was also a Fast day for the Jews, who then gathered to wage war against their enemies. And although the Fast of Esther is therefore a memorial to the original three days of fasting, the Rabbis were nevertheless lenient in fixing it for only one day.

In deference to this view, there are some who fast an additional three days; on Monday, Thursday and Monday after Purim. Others voluntarily fast the night as well as the day on the 13th of Adar, since the original three-day Fast was observed night and day.


L-rd, deliver us; May the King answer us on the day we call!
Hashem Hoshea HaMelech Yananu BaYom Karanu!

muman613

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

 A good idea people might concider. Maybe instead of making a no-eating fast (which is good, but isn't used the way its supposed to in todays day by most people.) How about a Taanit Dibbur- a No speaking "fast". ( Also include typing/texting, and in general communicating. The only thing allowed is strictly learning or teaching Torah, everything else (unless life risk, one should not say anything, and if another asks, make a note before hand and put in your pocket and show them).

[Shamgar]

How about a no-working fast. That fits right in with the Obamanites.

[Rubystars]

A good idea people might concider. Maybe instead of making a no-eating fast (which is good, but isn't used the way its supposed to in todays day by most people.)

What's the proper way?

[MasterWolf1]

In all fairness.. Tom Lockjaw is one of the most slimey leftist one sided journalist or so called journalist.

[muman613]

In all fairness.. Tom Lockjaw is one of the most slimey leftist one sided journalist or so called journalist.

Huh? Who is Tom Lockjaw? What is the relevance to the proposed fast day?

muman613

[~Hanna~]

In all fairness.. Tom Lockjaw is one of the most slimey leftist one sided journalist or so called journalist.

Huh? Who is Tom Lockjaw? What is the relevance to the proposed fast day?

muman613

I think it was just a joke.....

[MasterWolf1]

In all fairness.. Tom Lockjaw is one of the most slimey leftist one sided journalist or so called journalist.

Huh? Who is Tom Lockjaw? What is the relevance to the proposed fast day?

muman613

I call Tom Brokaw Tom Lockjaw, lets be fair he had no control over this thing.  And what kind of questions were these.  This was a Town Hall where they select questions, which means he selects them.  I mean they came up with very leftist thing, come on now Green job for the enviroment is right out of the page of the Democrats.

[muman613]

In all fairness.. Tom Lockjaw is one of the most slimey leftist one sided journalist or so called journalist.

Huh? Who is Tom Lockjaw? What is the relevance to the proposed fast day?

muman613

I call Tom Brokaw Tom Lockjaw, lets be fair he had no control over this thing.  And what kind of questions were these.  This was a Town Hall where they select questions, which means he selects them.  I mean they came up with very leftist thing, come on now Green job for the enviroment is right out of the page of the Democrats.

MW, are you sure you are posting to the correct topic? We are discussing a fast day to cry out to Hashem to prevent Obama from winning.

muman613

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

A good idea people might concider. Maybe instead of making a no-eating fast (which is good, but isn't used the way its supposed to in todays day by most people.)

What's the proper way?

 When Jews used to fast, the main thing on their head wasn't food and hunger (like it is in many cases today). They fasted, and used the time to pray to G-d, learn Torah etc. Same thing tommorow, when people fast on Yom Kippur, please use the time meaningfully. Dont preoccupy your thoughts with food, or whatever and how hungry you feel (which actually makes it worse, and if you think about hunger and how you want to eat, then you will want to eat more and it will hurt). You mind as well use the time productivly- go to shul, pray with some intent at least. Maybe take a little rest during the day if you have to, but overall make it a meaningful.
 (By the way I didn't imply that fasting is not good, but what I meant was that making additional fasts, etc. do not necessarily work that great with most people, and it is not for everyone, but still better then nothing- my suggestion was not to speak, so less Lashon Hara would be said, etc. which would be more productive).

[GodGunsAndGlory]

There was something on Free Republic and it a great quote from the Bible.

2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Plus there is this on FR.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2099259/posts

[t_h_j]

I will fast on Jan 20th if that beast wins. It will be they day that ends America as we know it G-d Forbid 1000 times

how would it end?  he's not going to become a dictator.  He won't be able to do much at all, since we have the legislative and judicial branches of government.

[Rubystars]

A good idea people might concider. Maybe instead of making a no-eating fast (which is good, but isn't used the way its supposed to in todays day by most people.)

What's the proper way?

 When Jews used to fast, the main thing on their head wasn't food and hunger (like it is in many cases today). They fasted, and used the time to pray to G-d, learn Torah etc. Same thing tommorow, when people fast on Yom Kippur, please use the time meaningfully. Dont preoccupy your thoughts with food, or whatever and how hungry you feel (which actually makes it worse, and if you think about hunger and how you want to eat, then you will want to eat more and it will hurt). You mind as well use the time productivly- go to shul, pray with some intent at least. Maybe take a little rest during the day if you have to, but overall make it a meaningful.
 (By the way I didn't imply that fasting is not good, but what I meant was that making additional fasts, etc. do not necessarily work that great with most people, and it is not for everyone, but still better then nothing- my suggestion was not to speak, so less Lashon Hara would be said, etc. which would be more productive).

It makes sense that it would be more productive to focus on the meaning of the fast rather than the hunger. Thanks for explaining.

[takebackourtemple]

How about a no-working fast. That fits right in with the Obamanites.

 

[~Hanna~]

There was something on Free Republic and it a great quote from the Bible.

2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Plus there is this on FR.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2099259/posts

Yes, this is a very good scripture.......many people here in America have been remembering and standing on this scripture for America.....

[AsheDina]

There was something on Free Republic and it a great quote from the Bible.

2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Plus there is this on FR.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2099259/posts

  THAT IS EXACTLY THE PRAYER that NEEDS to be PRAYED   I'm there. 100%. Fasting- praying-crying OUT LOUD- PLEASE G-d SPARE this nation.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

A good idea people might concider. Maybe instead of making a no-eating fast (which is good, but isn't used the way its supposed to in todays day by most people.)

What's the proper way?

 When Jews used to fast, the main thing on their head wasn't food and hunger (like it is in many cases today). They fasted, and used the time to pray to G-d, learn Torah etc. Same thing tommorow, when people fast on Yom Kippur, please use the time meaningfully. Dont preoccupy your thoughts with food, or whatever and how hungry you feel (which actually makes it worse, and if you think about hunger and how you want to eat, then you will want to eat more and it will hurt). You mind as well use the time productivly- go to shul, pray with some intent at least. Maybe take a little rest during the day if you have to, but overall make it a meaningful.
 (By the way I didn't imply that fasting is not good, but what I meant was that making additional fasts, etc. do not necessarily work that great with most people, and it is not for everyone, but still better then nothing- my suggestion was not to speak, so less Lashon Hara would be said, etc. which would be more productive).

It makes sense that it would be more productive to focus on the meaning of the fast rather than the hunger. Thanks for explaining.

  Actually today the Haf-Torah reading from the Prophets was saying this type of thing (Ill try to find where it was from -Maybe Micah).

[~Hanna~]

There was something on Free Republic and it a great quote from the Bible.

2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Plus there is this on FR.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2099259/posts

Amen...


  THAT IS EXACTLY THE PRAYER that NEEDS to be PRAYED   I'm there. 100%. Fasting- praying-crying OUT LOUD- PLEASE G-d SPARE this nation.