4International, I've learned that the code word for "Jews" among anti-Semites is often "bankers". I don't think that's what you intended at all though. I have read up on this funding information before you mentioned it though. It doesn't change the fact that it was Russia where communism found fertile ground to take root in, and not the USA.
Shalom Sister Paulette,
I am sure antisemites have code words for many things apart from the canard
"bankers = jews". Antisemites also claim that
"the news media is owned by the Jews". However it is obvious that not all bankers are Jewish and it is also quite clear that the news media is
not run by the Jews, for if it were it would not be so blatantly pro-muslim/pro-arab.
Yes, you are correct it was indeed Russia and not the US where communism found fertile ground to take root in, but you have to realize first of all that the situation facing Russia and the United States at that time was quite different. In World War 1, Russia had suffered 3,311,000 deaths (1,500,000 of these were CIVILIAN) with 5,000,000 military personnel wounded.In stark contrast the United States had suffered 117,465 deaths (757 of these were CIVILIAN) and 205,690 military personnel wounded.
So we have quite a massive difference in the number of civilian people killed to begin with:1.5 MILLION Russians as opposed to 757 Americans and 1,811,000 Russian soldiers killed as opposed to 117,465 Americans.5,000,000 Russian soldiers wounded as opposed to 205,690 American soldiers.
Russia suffered catastrophic human losses in World War 1 so the "fertile ground" for communism to "take root in" was helped tremendously by these frightful losses of the Russian population and the concomitant collapse of the Russian economy leading to massive discontent and poverty amongst the civilian population of Russia.
Also, it wasn't just mere funding by Wall Street banks and corporations. Secretly, certain groups of individuals in the administration of US President Woodrow Wilson were sending arms and ammunition to the Bolshevik army. Not only that but President Wilson also gave specific instructions
in person to US forces commander, General William S. Graves, to order U.S. troops to hold the Trans-Siberian railroad and to keep the Japanese out of Siberia until the Bolsheviks could take over - holding the Trans-Siberian railroad was essential to this goal.
This military intervention by General Graves on behalf of the Bolsheviks was necessary because the Bolsheviks controlled only a miniscule portion of Russia after the so-called October Revolution in 1917. Bolshevik forces only held Petrograd [St.Petersburg] the then capital city of Russia and Moscow only by November 1917.It took the Bolsheviks almost SIX YEARS to control ALL of Russia having only defeated General Anatoly Pepelyayev's White forces in the Ayano-Maysky District on the Pacific coast on June 17, 1923!
This US intervention under the command of General Graves was even reported on by an
Associated Press news wire and published by the
New York Times back in the day when the news media actually told the truth every now and then. Here you will read how the Bolshevik's thanked the Americans for saving their movement.:
Here is the February 15, 1920
New York Times report of the AP news wire:
VLADIVOSTOK: PRO-AMERICAN Revolutionist Staff Thanks Graves for Preserving Neutrality
VLADIVOSTOK, Feb 1. (Associated Press) -- Parades, street meetings and speechmaking marked the second day today of the city's complete liberation from Kolchak [monarchist] authority. Red flags fly on every Government building, many business houses and homes.
There is a pronounced pro-American feeling evident. In front of the American headquarters the [Bolshevik communist] revolutionary leaders mounted steps of buildings across the street, making speeches calling the Americans real friends, who at a critical time saved this present movement. The people insist upon an allied policy of no interference internationally in political affairs.
The General Staff of the new [Bolshevik] Government at Nikolak has telegraphed to the American commander, Major Gen. Graves, expressing its appreciation for efforts toward guaranteeing an allied policy of non-interference during the [Bolshevik]occupation of the city, also in aiding in a peaceful settlement of the local situation.
-- New York Times, February 15, 1920, 7:4We also have a copy of the memorandum written by a member of the Yale secret society known as
The Order of Skull & Bones summarizing intentions for the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution. The memorandum was written by Thomas D. Thacher (1904), a partner in the Wall Street law firm of Simpson, Thacher & Bartlett. Thacher's address was 120 Broadway. Today [1983] this law firm...has the largest billing on Wall Street and has former US Secretary of State Cyrus Vance (of Scroll & Key) as a partner.
In 1917, Thacher was in Russia with William Boyce Thompson's Red Cross Mission. After consultations in New York, Thacher was then sent to London to confer with Lord Northcliffe about the Bolshevik Revolution and then to Paris for similar talks with the French government.
The Thacher memorandum not only urges recognition of the barely surviving Soviet Government, which in early 1918 controlled only a very small portion of Russia, but also military assistance for the Soviet Army and intervention to keep the Japanese out of Siberia until the Bolsheviks could take over.
Here are the main sections from the Thacher memorandum:
"First of all...the Allies should discourage Japanese intervention in Siberia.
In the second place, the fullest assistance should be given to the Soviet Government in its efforts to organize a volunteer revolutionary army.
Thirdly, the Allied Governments should give their moral support to the Russian people in their efforts to work out their own political systems free from the domination of any foreign power...
Fourthly, until the time when open conflict shall result between the German Government and the Soviet Government of Russia there will be opportunity for peaceful commercial penetration by German agencies in Russia. So long as there is no open break, it will probably be impossible to entirely prevent such commerce. Steps should therefore be taken to impede, so far as possible, the transport of grain and raw materials to Germany from Russia."
-- U.S. State Department Decimal File, Microcopy 316, Roll 13, Frame 698The overwhelming majority of Russian people were against the Bolsheviks as evidenced by the fact that over 50,000,000 Russians (mainly Orthodox Christians) were killed by the Bolsheviks during the communist era.
Please read:
WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTIONhttp://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/index.html
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