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Offline Dan Ben Noah

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« on: October 16, 2008, 08:15:34 PM »
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 09:49:02 PM »
How much do you want to spend. Do you plan to carry it concealed. Do you live in a single family structure or apartment? Do you have a range nearby where you can practice on a regular basis?
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 10:14:52 PM »
Children usually start with a .22 rifle.

Adults?

Try a .38sp/.357mag combo revolver.  Its simple, allows you to shoot .38sp and .357mag rounds and its lethal.
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 10:22:17 PM »
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 10:34:56 PM »
Quote from: Americanhero on October 16, 2008, 10:22:17 PM


That'll work.

I'd get a shorter barrell. 

And that's a Taurus (Brazialian) right?

I prefer Smith and Wesson.
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 10:46:57 PM »
Quote from: Scriabin on October 16, 2008, 10:34:56 PM
Quote from: Americanhero on October 16, 2008, 10:22:17 PM


That'll work.

I'd get a shorter barrell. 

And that's a Taurus (Brazialian) right?

I prefer Smith and Wesson.

Yes it is a Taurus
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2008, 10:52:48 PM »
Quote from: Americanhero on October 16, 2008, 10:46:57 PM
Yes it is a Taurus

Ricardo Lopez did himself with a Taurus .38.
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2008, 10:53:06 PM »
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2008, 11:18:17 PM »
Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on October 16, 2008, 11:14:29 PM
Quote from: Shamgar on October 16, 2008, 09:49:02 PM
How much do you want to spend. Do you plan to carry it concealed. Do you live in a single family structure or apartment? Do you have a range nearby where you can practice on a regular basis?

I wouldn't want to spend too much more than $500 at this point.  I would like to be able to carry it concealed, but that doesn't really matter.  I live in a townhouse, which means I share 2 of my walls with others but I own my portion of the building plus my yard.  And yes, I would be able to go to a place nearby to shoot.

Thanks to Scriabin and Americanhero for the input.  I will start checking that type out.

You might want to try gun magazines because they give you prices and where to buy them
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2008, 12:25:03 AM »
The S&W model 60 is a good one:

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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 03:45:37 AM »
Isn't it best to just train with the type of gun you intend to shoot?  Some guns are not practical for all situations.  Carrying a large .45 caliber may not be necessary on the city streets; however, out in the forest/wilderness, you can forget about a .38 saving your life against a charging angry, rabid or just adrenaline pumped bear or even a mountain lion.  Beginner or expert, you should train for the situation you need. 

I thought this was a good article..  I am not a gun expert, but have a basic interest.  I, don't really use handguns, but I do plan on training soon..  I spend most time in forest, so I would like to start with larger handguns, myself, since fighting off wild animals, like grizzlies or large black bears usually would require it.   Not that I go out of my way looking for this type of ordeal, but I have had a few run-ins!  Of course, when Barack Hussein comes into power, the only wild animals you will have to really worry about hiding in the forest, are islamonazis.

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-45acp-discussion-room/69185-45-acp-beginner-3.html
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 10:21:17 AM »
Quote from: AryehYehudah on October 17, 2008, 03:45:37 AM
Isn't it best to just train with the type of gun you intend to shoot?  Some guns are not practical for all situations.  Carrying a large .45 caliber may not be necessary on the city streets; however, out in the forest/wilderness, you can forget about a .38 saving your life against a charging angry, rabid or just adrenaline pumped bear or even a mountain lion.  Beginner or expert, you should train for the situation you need. 

I thought this was a good article..  I am not a gun expert, but have a basic interest.  I, don't really use handguns, but I do plan on training soon..  I spend most time in forest, so I would like to start with larger handguns, myself, since fighting off wild animals, like grizzlies or large black bears usually would require it.   Not that I go out of my way looking for this type of ordeal, but I have had a few run-ins!  Of course, when Barack Hussein comes into power, the only wild animals you will have to really worry about hiding in the forest, are islamonazis.

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-45acp-discussion-room/69185-45-acp-beginner-3.html

You would have to unload a lot of ammo on a bear using a .45 caliber
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2008, 10:36:40 AM »
Come on.

Who's going to be attacked by a Grizzly bear or a cougar?

Don't be silly.
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2008, 10:47:04 AM »
I had this during my service and I can tell it is safe, easy to use and very robust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_USP

The younger soldiers that were on training could handle it after a few days very well and they hit more often the target than with the old P1.
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2008, 10:50:14 AM »
Quote from: Pheasant on October 17, 2008, 10:47:04 AM
I had this during my service and I can tell it is safe, easy to use and very robust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_USP

The younger soldiers that were on training could handle it after a few days very well and they hit more often the target than with the old P1.

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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2008, 11:21:50 AM »

Fabrique Nationale (FN) Five-seveN (Belgium)
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2008, 11:25:01 AM »
Those semi-autos are expensive and not the best for a beginner.

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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2008, 11:26:45 AM »

Browning PRO-9 pistol (Belgium / USA)
$587.00
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2008, 11:32:30 AM »

9mm HS2000 pistol
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2008, 11:39:17 AM »
Quote from: Scriabin on October 17, 2008, 11:25:01 AM
Those semi-autos are expensive and not the best for a beginner.



What is the price of one HK USP in the USA?
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Re: What is a good starter gun?
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2008, 11:40:30 AM »
Quote from: Pheasant on October 17, 2008, 11:39:17 AM
Quote from: Scriabin on October 17, 2008, 11:25:01 AM
Those semi-autos are expensive and not the best for a beginner.



What is the price of one HK USP in the USA?
$840.88

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