Is it worth it to talk to crazy Jews?

[zachor_ve_kavod]

I just read the Jews for Obama reply to my post on the Miami Herald.  I think it must have been some type of press release because nowhere in their response did they actually address any of my ideas.  But reading their statement, I really got a sense of how INSANE these people really are.  They believe Obama because he's right, and he's right because they believe him.  And he's a visionary and so on.  I think these Jews actually may believe that he's the Messiah (G-d forbid). 

So I wonder if it is actually worth it to speak with leftist Jews.  They are so far gone, I doubt that they can be reached.  If they want to go jump off a cliff, who am I to stop them.  I think perhaps the best we can do is to ensure that they do not take innocent young Jews with them.

My people have been disappointing me lately.  There is no question about that.

[AsheDina]

  YES it IS, we HAVE TO.

[muman613]

  YES it IS, we HAVE TO.

AisheDina,

You are correct... We can never give up on our brothers and sisters because they are a part of us. It is very sad and very challenging to confront this problem but it is our mission. At first I was with Zachor_ve_Kavod in his feeling that it is almost impossible to change the tide... But that is just depression and pessimism. The fact is that light will ALWAYS drive away the darkness.

muman613

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

I can't argue with that. I know many that have sociliast ideas. One of my "Friends" that i know from where I used to live was bragging on Facebook that she just voted for Obongo. They think he is good because is a good speaker what ever that means. Just wait until the is tested if and when G-d forbid he gets in the Media will act as if he is Jesus.

[zachor_ve_kavod]

I can't argue with that. I know many that have sociliast ideas. One of my "Friends" that i know from where I used to live was bragging on Facebook that she just voted for Obongo. They think he is good because is a good speaker what ever that means. Just wait until the is tested if and when G-d forbid he gets in the Media will act as if he is Jesus.

No they won't.  Jesus is one of the things that they hate.  I know what you mean though, they treat Obama as a Messianic type of figure.  But make no mistake, one of the their obectives is to destroy Judaism and Christianity.  Because atheism is an essential aspect of leftism.

[~Hanna~]

I just read the Jews for Obama reply to my post on the Miami Herald.  I think it must have been some type of press release because nowhere in their response did they actually address any of my ideas.  But reading their statement, I really got a sense of how INSANE these people really are.  They believe Obama because he's right, and he's right because they believe him.  And he's a visionary and so on.  I think these Jews actually may believe that he's the Messiah (G-d forbid). 

So I wonder if it is actually worth it to speak with leftist Jews.  They are so far gone, I doubt that they can be reached.  If they want to go jump off a cliff, who am I to stop them.  I think perhaps the best we can do is to ensure that they do not take innocent young Jews with them.

My people have been disappointing me lately.  There is no question about that.

THEY THINK HE IS THE MESSIAH?? 

I thought the Messiah had to have certain biblical qualification to qualify as the Messiah...I mean, for instance, shouldn't he at LEAST be Jewish?

Please forgive me if I am wrong, but I think he does, doesn't he?

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

The Media will act as if he is Jesus.

I was saying that that Media will treat him like Jesus. And I have no doubt they would

[~Hanna~]

OBONGO!!!!

 

[schrodinger's cat]

My aunt is a far left "reconstructionist" Jew who loves Obama.  I told my mom that Obama was a socialist and that he has associations with antisemites and communists.  When my mom confronted my aunt about this, my aunt said that she would absolutely sit on a board with weather underground terrorist william ayers, and then she said my mom was acting like an "NRA" member for not supporting Obama.  My family almost fell apart due to this.

Liberal Jews are insane.

[muman613]

My aunt is a far left "reconstructionist" Jew who loves Obama.  I told my mom that Obama was a socialist and that he has associations with antisemites and communists.  When my mom confronted my aunt about this, my aunt said that she would absolutely sit on a board with weather underground terrorist william ayers, and then she said my mom was acting like an "NRA" member for not supporting Obama.  My family almost fell apart due to this.

Liberal Jews are insane.

camerakid400,

This is very, very sad... I have a feeling that our tribe may be loosing a lot of members when the end of days comes. I keep on remembering that only 4/5ths of the Jews of Egypt survived the plague of darkness. Those unrighteous and immoral Jews will be wiped out with the mixed multitudes. I realize that some in my family may be part of those who will not see the redemption. I have a feeling your aunt may be a wicked one also {who can justify working with an unrepentant terrorist?}.

muman613

[zachor_ve_kavod]

My aunt is a far left "reconstructionist" Jew who loves Obama.  I told my mom that Obama was a socialist and that he has associations with antisemites and communists.  When my mom confronted my aunt about this, my aunt said that she would absolutely sit on a board with weather underground terrorist william ayers, and then she said my mom was acting like an "NRA" member for not supporting Obama.  My family almost fell apart due to this.

Liberal Jews are insane.

camerakid400,

This is very, very sad... I have a feeling that our tribe may be loosing a lot of members when the end of days comes. I keep on remembering that only 4/5ths of the Jews of Egypt survived the plague of darkness. Those unrighteous and immoral Jews will be wiped out with the mixed multitudes. I realize that some in my family may be part of those who will not see the redemption. I have a feeling your aunt may be a wicked one also {who can justify working with an unrepentant terrorist?}.

muman613

That is very sad.  Personally, for the sake of family harmony, I would avoid talking politics with your aunt.

[nopeaceforland]

Guys: I thought we were all friends here. Who are you calling crazy? I spend one measly week in Bellevue Psychiatric and I'M crazy?


Seriously, these real leftist nuts are NOT WORTH IT! They'll never change. You can talk until you're blue in the face. Never change.

[Sparky]

Jews and liberalism are very deeply rooted and not easily changed. I used to be a leftist Jew and it took me about a decade to finally come around.  So it can be done, but it takes a lot of effort.

I wouldn't bother arguing with older leftist Jews. They're unlikely to change a lifetime of liberal thinking. Perhaps it might be worth speaking to younger Jews, though being young in itself is problem when it comes to conservative thinking.

So, basically, I have no clue what you should do. But if I had to make a recommendation, I'd say go ahead and speak to young leftist Jews...as long as you can stomach it.

[zachor_ve_kavod]

Jews and liberalism are very deeply rooted and not easily changed. I used to be a leftist Jew and it took me about a decade to finally come around.  So it can be done, but it takes a lot of effort.

I wouldn't bother arguing with older leftist Jews. They're unlikely to change a lifetime of liberal thinking. Perhaps it might be worth speaking to younger Jews, though being young in itself is problem when it comes to conservative thinking.

So, basically, I have no clue what you should do. But if I had to make a recommendation, I'd say go ahead and speak to young leftist Jews...as long as you can stomach it.

Well, I have been, but it gives me a headache.  They just don't listen, the can't argue, they are immune to logic.  I feel like I would have a better chance of convincing one of my dogs.  At least they can sense when I'm getting impatient with them.

[q_q_]

Jews and liberalism are very deeply rooted and not easily changed. I used to be a leftist Jew and it took me about a decade to finally come around.  So it can be done, but it takes a lot of effort.

I wouldn't bother arguing with older leftist Jews. They're unlikely to change a lifetime of liberal thinking. Perhaps it might be worth speaking to younger Jews, though being young in itself is problem when it comes to conservative thinking.

So, basically, I have no clue what you should do. But if I had to make a recommendation, I'd say go ahead and speak to young leftist Jews...as long as you can stomach it.

Well, I have been, but it gives me a headache.  They just don't listen, the can't argue, they are immune to logic.  I feel like I would have a better chance of convincing one of my dogs.  At least they can sense when I'm getting impatient with them.

meditate over this line. It came to me a few years ago in a moment of clarity
** leftists/liberals are defence lawyers for the enemy  **

it's good to be an honest judge, it's also normal to be on your own team. A defence lawyer for your own..   Like Kahane often said "I'm an orthodox rabbi..  I love jews".
That was deeper though, he did it out of a religious obligation, not for racial reasons.

"Leftism" is a mental illness, and they have to recognise that they have a problem, and they don't. So you can't help them.  But some things can snap them out of it.
A bomb, or a safer say that can work.. somebody like Walid Shoebat.

And this works on any leftist.   

Remember. A leftist is a defence lawyer for the enemy.

So what messes them up is when their client suddenly turns around and says he's the persecutor! it implies that they are defending the wrong team!
 

[Sparky]

Jews and liberalism are very deeply rooted and not easily changed. I used to be a leftist Jew and it took me about a decade to finally come around.  So it can be done, but it takes a lot of effort.

I wouldn't bother arguing with older leftist Jews. They're unlikely to change a lifetime of liberal thinking. Perhaps it might be worth speaking to younger Jews, though being young in itself is problem when it comes to conservative thinking.

So, basically, I have no clue what you should do. But if I had to make a recommendation, I'd say go ahead and speak to young leftist Jews...as long as you can stomach it.

Well, I have been, but it gives me a headache.  They just don't listen, the can't argue, they are immune to logic.  I feel like I would have a better chance of convincing one of my dogs.  At least they can sense when I'm getting impatient with them.

Then I'm changing my recommendation.  Spend more time with your dogs.   

[Shamgar]

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[muman613]

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