Should JTF go back to the old ways?

[angryChineseKahanist]

At this point I really don't care about black negro african americans versus n_ggers.
We gave the whole damn country to them.
Now the whole s__t load of them will flood this once great country.

[cjd]

When JTF made the decision to become more main stream in their positions held about the animals that are destroying America and by extension the rest of world society I though it was a great mistake. The movement away from our early policy was not all that great but its is enough to get us moving in the wrong direction and cause us to loose sight of our Conservative values over time. I think Chaim himself now sees the mistake it was to temper our message in an effort to make us more appealing to the multitudes. JTF should be speaking out about evil people and roundly ridiculing them in every way possible. Also if people in the questionable groups do positive things we at JTF should also highlight that. We want like minded people in our movement that will work for the targeted goal of a strong America and Israel. Over the next year or so I am sure Obama will try to put in place policy that impacts what is being said over the air and on the web. That in mind we need to find ways to get our positions across and not become muzzled by policy that would hamper the goals of our movement.

[Scriabin]

When JTF made the decision to become more main stream in their positions held about the animals that are destroying America and by extension the rest of world society I though it was a great mistake. The movement away from our early policy was not all that great but its is enough to get us moving in the wrong direction and cause us to loose sight of our Conservative values over time. I think Chaim himself now sees the mistake it was to temper our message in an effort to make us more appealing to the multitudes. JTF should be speaking out about evil people and roundly ridiculing them in every way possible. Also if people in the questionable groups do positive things we at JTF should also highlight that. We want like minded people in our movement that will work for the targeted goal of a strong America and Israel. Over the next year or so I am sure Obama will try to put in place policy that impacts what is being said over the air and on the web. That in mind we need to find ways to get our positions across and not become muzzled by policy that would hamper the goals of our movement.

Precisely.

[Scriabin]

Chaim said that a lot of people objected to the old JTF because of racial language, etc.

This poll says otherwise.

 

[nessuno]

Chaim said that a lot of people objected to the old JTF because of racial language, etc.

This poll says otherwise.

 

I also enjoyed when JTF had a bit more of an edge...although I can understand the reasoning behind the change.
I'll vote now.

[Scriabin]

Chaim said that a lot of people objected to the old JTF because of racial language, etc.

This poll says otherwise.

I also think that Chaim is losing his anger as he gets older.

[nessuno]

Chaim said that a lot of people objected to the old JTF because of racial language, etc.

This poll says otherwise.

I also think that Chaim is losing his anger as he gets older.

Do you?  I think he is just using it in a different way.

[briann]

Chaim said that a lot of people objected to the old JTF because of racial language, etc.

This poll says otherwise.

I also think that Chaim is losing his anger as he gets older.

Hahaha... kinda like my dad.

I think he's just as angry... but I think this was more of a strategic move.  Maybe it was only meant to be short term anyway.

[Rubystars]

The first time someone tried to show me JTF I clicked on the latest "Ask JTF" and heard Chaim talking about black people and it turned me off. I didn't undersand why he was speaking that way about them. It was only later that I understood and agreed with him.

[Ulli]

I think JTF should stand for the rights of the citizens of

1. religious freedom
2. personal freedom
3. economic freedom

And it should stand for the guarantee of this rights against all wicked evil people who want to take it away from the citizens, like Muslims, Socialists, Nazis and black supremacists. Every group on his own way.

Imo a natural economic order combined with strict law & order would be totally sufficient to end this whole spook from that we suffer today.

Imagine the USA/EU would end nutrient help to Egypt i.e.

The whole land would be in flames beneath a week and the Muslim oil countries had to help them out. Alone fair nutrient prices on the worldmarket without subsidies would consume great parts of the oil money.

Our countries are causing the problems, but not in the twisted way selfhaters think. The exposing of this truth should be a central point of JTF.

Chaim spoke often about this points.

I think it is necessary to improve and not to go back to old times. The real points hurt people, like Wright, Jackson, Farakhan etc. more than 100 King Kong videos.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Well?

I think so.

Political correctness be damned!

What old ways?

You haven't given any details as to what you are talking about.   Just a yes/no poll of a question I haven't seen.

[q_q_]

I think JTF should stand for the rights of the citizens of

1. religious freedom
2. personal freedom
3. economic freedom

And it should stand for the guarantee of this rights against all wicked evil people who want to take it away from the citizens, like Muslims, Socialists, Nazis and black supremacists. Every group on his own way.

<snip>

Do you mean -remove those rights- from evil people that take those rights away from their citizens?

[Scriabin]

Well?

I think so.

Political correctness be damned!

What old ways?

You haven't given any details as to what you are talking about.   Just a yes/no poll of a question I haven't seen.

Apparently, you're the only one that doesn't understand what I mean.

I'm talking about the fact that Chaim has changed his tone over the past year or two.  He said so himself.

[Ulli]

I think JTF should stand for the rights of the citizens of

1. religious freedom
2. personal freedom
3. economic freedom

And it should stand for the guarantee of this rights against all wicked evil people who want to take it away from the citizens, like Muslims, Socialists, Nazis and black supremacists. Every group on his own way.

<snip>

Do you mean -remove those rights- from evil people that take those rights away from their citizens?

Yes, I think freedom must be defended. It is suicide to grant rights to people that want to de-establish our rights.

I didn't want to live in a system of collectivism or worse in a class society with masters, like Islamic or Nazi societies that have all rights and I would be totally dependent to their grace.

Chaim said once, that this people have no rights to nothing. I agree.

[q_q_]

<snip>
Chaim said once, that this people have no rights to nothing. I agree.

He wouldn't have said that..

"No rights to nothing" , is the kind of english that uneducated people use, and if you think about it,  it means rights to something. Because not nothing is something.  Not none is some.

You mean, "no rights to anything".

People in Britain that say "Don't know nothing" normally say "Don't no nuffin". Because they can't pronounce English either.

Side note - A person that says "Doesn't know nothing" , if he says it in an intelligent way, might not be uneducated and may intentionally mean to say that somebody isn't totally ignorant.

[Ulli]

<snip>
Chaim said once, that this people have no rights to nothing. I agree.

He wouldn't have said that..

"No rights to nothing" , is the kind of english that uneducated people use, and if you think about it,  it means rights to something. Because not nothing is something.  Not none is some.

You mean, "no rights to anything".

People in Britain that say "Don't know nothing" normally say "Don't no nuffin". Because they can't pronounce English either.

Side note - A person that says "Doesn't know nothing" , if he says it in an intelligent way, might not be uneducated and may intentionally mean to say that somebody isn't totally ignorant.

Yes you are right. Is this the double negation?

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Well?

I think so.

Political correctness be damned!

What old ways?

You haven't given any details as to what you are talking about.   Just a yes/no poll of a question I haven't seen.

Apparently, you're the only one that doesn't understand what I mean.

I'm talking about the fact that Chaim has changed his tone over the past year or two.  He said so himself.

Well if you want my opinion, describe it.  I'm not a mindreader.

[q_q_]

<snip>
Chaim said once, that this people have no rights to nothing. I agree.

He wouldn't have said that..

"No rights to nothing" , is the kind of english that uneducated people use, and if you think about it,  it means rights to something. Because not nothing is something.  Not none is some.

You mean, "no rights to anything".

People in Britain that say "Don't know nothing" normally say "Don't no nuffin". Because they can't pronounce English either.

Side note - A person that says "Doesn't know nothing" , if he says it in an intelligent way, might not be uneducated and may intentionally mean to say that somebody isn't totally ignorant.

Yes you are right. Is this the double negation?

It's called a double negative. There is even a wikipedia on it, with that title
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_negative

[Masha]

The first time someone tried to show me JTF I clicked on the latest "Ask JTF" and heard Chaim talking about black people and it turned me off. I didn't undersand why he was speaking that way about them. It was only later that I understood and agreed with him.

This is what happened to me. I was put off, and then I came around. It had taken me - oh, maybe a month or two. That's the whole point with JTF - it tells the truth! That's what's great about it. We cannot achieve a cultural/political/social/religious revolution we are striving for until we start telling the truth about race. The lies about race are the cornerstonenof the Politically Correct Global Order. We cannot overturn it by being "moderate." There are zillions of "moderate" movements, and they are all small. The people who don't come around and keep harping about political correctness are not worth keeping in this movement in the first place. We are going to grow big without them. Listening to them will keep us small. We must be passionate, angry, and outrageous in order to challenge people and capture their attention. We need to be agents-provocateurs! I like it the way Chaim put it in one of the earlier program: we should not be afraid to ridicule our enemies. That's my opinion.

[briann]

I like it the way Chaim put it in one of the earlier program: we should not be afraid to ridicule our enemies. That's my opinion.

Amen... I believe Mel Brooks said that as well.

[Daniel]

What are the "old ways" of JTF and how do they differ from the ways of today?

[Ambiorix]

regarding the dubble negation... we need some Suid-Afrikaner here again...
The double negation is the official language to say...
They have no rights to anything (at All) _> Sei hebben geen rechte op niks nie....

[Masha]

What are the "old ways" of JTF and how do they differ from the ways of today?

Less politically correct. More outspoken.

[Masha]

I'm talking about the fact that Chaim has changed his tone over the past year or two.  He said so himself.

I noticed a toned-down rhetotic in the last couple of months.

[q_q_]

I'm talking about the fact that Chaim has changed his tone over the past year or two.  He said so himself.

I noticed a toned-down rhetotic in the last couple of months.

on askjtf?

where are the regular videos now?