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Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« on: November 17, 2008, 06:10:17 AM »
This is really shocking, isn't it ?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2004464782_albinos08.html

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Albinos being "hunted" for their body parts

By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

The New York Times

DAR ES SALAAM, Tanzania — Samuel Mluge steps outside his office and scans the sidewalk. His pale blue eyes dart back and forth, back and forth, trying to focus.

The sun used to be his main enemy, but now he has others.

Mluge is an albino, and in Tanzania there is a price for his pinkish skin now.

"I feel like I am being hunted," he said.

Discrimination against albinos is a serious problem throughout sub-Saharan Africa, but recently in Tanzania it has taken a wicked twist: At least 19 albinos, including children, have been killed and mutilated in the past year, victims of what Tanzanian officials say is a growing criminal trade in albino body parts.

Many people in Tanzania — and across Africa, for that matter — believe albinos have magical powers. They stand out, often the lone white face in a black crowd, a result of a genetic condition that impairs normal skin pigmentation and strikes about one in 3,000 people here. Tanzanian officials say witch doctors are now marketing albino skin, bones and hair as ingredients in potions that are promised to make people rich.

As the threats have increased, the Tanzanian government has mobilized to protect its albino population, an already beleaguered group whose members are often shunned as outcasts and die of skin cancer before they reach 30.

Police officers are drawing up lists of albinos in every corner of the country to better look after them. Officers are escorting albino children to school. Tanzania's president even sponsored an albino woman for a seat in Parliament to show that "we are with them in this."

Salvator Rweyemamu, a Tanzanian government spokesman, said the rash of killings was anathema to what Tanzania had been striving toward; after years of failed socialist economic policies, the country is finally getting development, investment and change.

"This is serious because it continues some of the perceptions of Africa we're trying to run away from," he said.

But the killings go on. They have even spread to neighboring Kenya, where an albino woman was hacked to death in late May, with her eyes, tongue and breasts gouged out. Advocates for albinos have also said that witch doctors are selling albino skin in Congo.

The young are often the targets. In early May, Vumilia Makoye, 17, was eating dinner with her family in their hut in western Tanzania when two men showed up with long knives.

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Vumilia was like many other Africans with albinism. She had dropped out of school because of severe nearsightedness, a common problem for albinos, whose eyes develop abnormally and who often have to hold things like books or cellphones 2 inches away to see them. She could not find a job because no one would hire her. She sold peanuts in the market, making $2 a week while her delicate skin was seared by the sun.

When Vumilia's mother, Jeme, saw the men with knives, she tried to barricade the door of their hut. But the men overpowered her and burst in.

"They cut my daughter quickly," she said, making hacking motions with her hands.

The men sawed off Vumilia's legs above the knee and ran away with the stumps. Vumilia died.

Al-Shaymaa Kwegyir, Tanzania's new albino member of parliament, said, "People think we're lucky. That's why they're killing us. But we're not lucky."

She said it was a curse to be born in equatorial Africa, where the sun is unsparing, with little or no protective skin pigment. Albinism rates vary throughout the world; about 1 person in 20,000 is an albino in the United States.

Police officials said the albino killings were worst in rural areas, where people tend to be less educated and more superstitious.

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Re: Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 07:51:10 AM »
I think it's horrible, but almost everything that happens to people in Africa is horrible because they're a savage and primitive race that never moved far from swinging from the trees.

It hurts me to think of the little African kids that starve or the albinos that are killed or the horrible people that eat each other, scarify each other, cut little girl's genitals, spread AIDS, etc. but Africans never managed to invent so much as the wheel on their own, so it's very unlikely things will ever change in Africa unless Whites or Northeast Asians take it over, and G-d help them if the Asians take it over because there WILL be order enforced if that happens and the Africans will never take the continent back from Asians. It'd probably be better than what the blacks are going through now though.

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Re: Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 08:26:24 AM »
Despite all the afflictions they suffer there is a population boom in Africa, they are just too numerous to be overtaken by Chinese or any other type of orderly people. I think what might happen is that Islam take over the Africans, This is actually already taking place. Islam is relatively speaking, less primitive, and yet it is savage and cruel enough to appeal to many Africans, and to be forced on the ones who oppose it.

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 09:30:31 AM »
Despite all the afflictions they suffer there is a population boom in Africa, they are just too numerous to be overtaken by Chinese or any other type of orderly people. I think what might happen is that Islam take over the Africans, This is actually already taking place. Islam is relatively speaking, less primitive, and yet it is savage and cruel enough to appeal to many Africans, and to be forced on the ones who oppose it.

Possibly you are right. Christianity seems to be too complex for most blacks.

The norms are always in a stress field between different poles and Paul's theology is not easy to understand and demands a lot of intensive studies.

Islam is easy to understand and the cruel punishments are perhaps for most people there necessary in order to establish a rudimental  working society.

Althrough their are some great Christian communities, i.e. in Malawi.
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Re: Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 09:49:13 AM »
Despite all the afflictions they suffer there is a population boom in Africa, they are just too numerous to be overtaken by Chinese or any other type of orderly people. I think what might happen is that Islam take over the Africans, This is actually already taking place. Islam is relatively speaking, less primitive, and yet it is savage and cruel enough to appeal to many Africans, and to be forced on the ones who oppose it.

Possibly you are right. Christianity seems to be too complex for most blacks.

The norms are always in a stress field between different poles and Paul's theology is not easy to understand and demands a lot of intensive studies.

Islam is easy to understand and the cruel punishments are perhaps for most people there necessary in order to establish a rudimental  working society.

Althrough their are some great Christian communities, i.e. in Malawi.

Most black christians are not understanding christianity properly.

They just get the basic Jesus Loves You message.   Probably like many americans actually..

Though the black christians are also obsessed with demon possession, since I think it's in the new testament too so it just fuels it. There was a program  on recently on how their christian pastors suddenly point to a child and say the child is a witch. The child is then beaten under the pretense that it is treatment for them, that it is part of the exorcism. They interviewed one pastor that said he had killed hundreds of children in the past, but now he treats them by getting them to drink a potion (it was his blood mixed with alcohol).

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Re: Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 09:56:45 AM »
There are all sorts of 'Christians' warlords in Africa who are merely savages falsely claim to be born again Christians because they seek support from western churches (like Charles Tailor) or sometimes they claim to be related to Jesus and to posses divine power (Like the leader of a major rebel army in Uganda whose name I don't remember now). There are millions of nominally Christians who are actually adhering to a form of a syncretic belief system, part animist part Christian.

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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 10:40:55 AM »
There are all sorts of 'Christians' warlords in Africa who are merely savages falsely claim to be born again Christians because they seek support from western churches (like Charles Tailor) or sometimes they claim to be related to Jesus and to posses divine power (Like the leader of a major rebel army in Uganda whose name I don't remember now). There are millions of nominally Christians who are actually adhering to a form of a syncretic belief system, part animist part Christian.

that's the reality of christianity in africa.

they believe in jesus, they call themselves christians.

You can deny that there are any christians in africa , saying they aren't true christians, but then you're making a theological statement.
As far as somebody outside a religion is concerned, if somebody calls themselves an X, and they believe core tenets of X, then they are an X.

they are christians..
even if they have other beliefs ,  those beliefs don't really contradict it. they have this other culture and set of superstitions that comes from old african religions. But they are still christians.

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Re: Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 10:48:42 AM »
If nothing else this proves that Africa is for the most part a $h!t-h0le !
 Blacks in the USA have nothing to complain about !!

 God bless Ian Smith  of the Former Rhodesia & his ilk !

 At one time I thought he was a racist but now I realize he was right !
 If I was African I would hope that white whiskered,pith-helmeted old whitey would come back & restore law, order & whats more , SANITY to the dark continent !

 Wait till O'Bummer gets through with America !

Perhaps in 50 years when America becomes 10% white minority perhaps we can revert to some sort of "Aparthied" system in our favor.
 Nahhh........maybe we can hopefully by then reason with
President-for -life Queen Mother Malia Obama Idi Amina El-Shabbaz that it is not nice to cannibalise white people  !   :'(





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Re: Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 11:27:39 AM »
There are all sorts of 'Christians' warlords in Africa who are merely savages falsely claim to be born again Christians because they seek support from western churches (like Charles Tailor) or sometimes they claim to be related to Jesus and to posses divine power (Like the leader of a major rebel army in Uganda whose name I don't remember now). There are millions of nominally Christians who are actually adhering to a form of a syncretic belief system, part animist part Christian.

that's the reality of christianity in africa.

they believe in jesus, they call themselves christians.

You can deny that there are any christians in africa , saying they aren't true christians, but then you're making a theological statement.
As far as somebody outside a religion is concerned, if somebody calls themselves an X, and they believe core tenets of X, then they are an X.

they are christians..
even if they have other beliefs ,  those beliefs don't really contradict it. they have this other culture and set of superstitions that comes from old african religions. But they are still christians.


I think, that your definition is true, because Christianity is a pure confession-religion. Even Jeremiah Wright and Barak Hussein Obama can call themselve Christian.

But I highly doubt, that most Christians I am acquainted with would accept them in their service. This has nothing to do with skin colour, but with theology.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 11:37:16 AM »
I think, that your definition is true, because Christianity is a pure confession-religion. Even Jeremiah Wright and Barak Hussein Obama can call themselve Christian.

But I highly doubt, that most Christians I am acquainted with would accept them in their service. This has nothing to do with skin colour, but with theology.

I don't know about "confession". But I think the definition I have is true of islam too.

it's true of O judaism too, though O judaism, aside from beliefs, I would say it also requires shabbat and kosher to be done to be considered orthodox judaism.
And with that, if they do that they are Orthodox. Even if one turns round to the other and says he isn't following judaism.  (as some anti-zionists may do to zionists). I would say it is. But somebody outside should avoid such  a theological statement about what is true following or interpretation of a religious text, it shouldn't matter to the outsider at all. What matters is the reality of the religion   

Sheikh Prof Dr Abdul Palazzi is an islammic scholar, an Alim even (that's a proper islamically qualified scholar in one area or another. Sheikh just means elder / a title of respect).  Of course, he believes the tenets of islam, completely. He is sincere. His articles are logical and scholarly, nobody has refuted him. (part of it might be that people that might have a chance, like him too much!). And he is a right wing zionist.     It would be arrogant and stupid to say that he is not a muslim.  Of course, there's only one muslim like him. And only one or two muslim scholars in the world that are zionist, and that may be an over-estimate.

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Re: Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 11:42:01 AM »
WOW!!!!  That is sickening!!!!


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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 12:36:26 PM »
q_q, I meant with confession, that somebody has only to confess and he is. Baptism is not necessary for salvation, only faith is.

Rituals are only signs for commemoration in Christianity without an immanent power.

So it is different to Judaism. There you have the beth-din as controll authority, the circumcision etc.

No one can say that he is a Jew without the agreement of the Rabbis.

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2008, 01:02:26 PM »
q_q, I meant with confession, that somebody has only to confess and he is. Baptism is not necessary for salvation, only faith is.

Rituals are only signs for commemoration in Christianity without an immanent power.

So it is different to Judaism. There you have the beth-din as controll authority, the circumcision etc.

No one can say that he is a Jew without the agreement of the Rabbis.



It's different with somebody saying he is a jew, because somebody is a jew regardless of belief. And somebody that believes orthodox judaism, could be a jew or a noachide.

But if they say they are an Orthodox Jew, and they believe the tenets. Then an outsider would have to say that they are an orthodox jew.

One of the tenets of orthodox judaism , i.e.  if they believe the tenets of orthodox judaism then they believe the rule that says somebody is jewish if their mother is jewish or they converted.  (circumcision doesn't change things by the way).

So the definition works there too. For O-Jew.

Or for a noachide.  i.e. if they say they are a noachide and they believe the tenets of O judaism.. or noachidism if you want to call it that, / the tenets in the Torah, then they are a noachide.


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Re: Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 04:22:51 PM »
I understand. I have totally forgotten the Noahides. Of course you are right.
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Re: Albinos are being 'harvested' in Africa
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2008, 09:17:02 PM »
It's Africa, stupid.  :laugh:

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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2008, 03:40:25 PM »
Just horrible, like something out of science fiction.