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Croatia vs Serbia vs Croatia cases at ICJ
« on: November 18, 2008, 08:01:28 PM »
Croatian genocide suit in ICJ jurisdiction

18 November 2008 | 11:39 -> 13:07 | Source: B92, Tanjug

BELGRADE, THE HAGUE -- The International Court of Justice has today declared itself competent to handle a lawsuit filed by Croatia against Serbia for charges of genocide.

he decision was announced by Court President Rosalyn Higgins, who outlined the reasoning of the 17-member panel of judges.

Following today's decision, unless the two sides reach an out-of-court settlement--which seems unlikey--a debate will be held on the nature of the suit on whether genocide was committed in Croatia, and whether Serbia was responsible for it.

Serbia will then a have a year to prepare its defense and launch a potential counter-suit against Croatia for genocide against Serbs, for which the Belgrade legal team has already been readying itself. The case would be unlikely to begin for another two years

The ICJ rejected Belgrade's argument that the case was outside the Court's purview as Serbia could not be held responsible for crimes perpetrated at a time when the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia did not exist and was not a UN member, and therefore not a signatory of the Convention on Genocide.

10 of the 17 judges voted that the Court was competent to hear the case.

The court ruled that although the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia’s status in the UN had been “unclear”, the authorities in Belgrade had recognized the ICJ’s jurisdiction in the Nineties, in responding to Bosnia-Hercegovina and Croatia’s suits and in lodging its own suit against NATO member-states.

Under the ruling, the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia’s declaration of April 1992, submitted to the UN General Assembly, was tantamount to announcing its assumption of all international commitments stemming from membership of international organizations and conventions, including the Convention on Genocide.

As a result, the Court’s jurisdiction in proceedings launched between 1992 and 2000 had been clearly established, Higgins explained.

In the suit lodged in 1999, Croatian claimed that Belgrade was responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Croatian citizens, as a form of genocide, because it “directly controlled the activities of its armed forces, intelligence agents and various paramilitary units that perpetrated crimes in Croatia, in the Knin region, and in eastern and western Slavonia and Dalmatia.”

The two sides' arguments

Belgrade contests the court’s jurisdiction and contends that Serbia cannot be held responsible for crimes perpetrated at a time when the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia did not exist and was not a UN member.

However, Zagreb claims that Belgrade had special relations with the UN that included “attributes of membership” and recourse to the ICJ.

Should the ICJ declare itself competent, the case would begin.

Zagreb wants the ICJ to find Serbia guilty of breaching the Convention on Genocide, to order that all the perpetrators should be punished, to order a return of all Croatian cultural property, and to order Serbia to pay war reparations of an amount to be set by the Court.

If the ICJ rules that it is competent to hear the case, Serbia still has the possibility to respond by lodging a counter-action.

However, that is a political decision that would have to be taken by the Serbian government, which has still to announce its tactics on the matter.

Optimists continue to believe that Belgrade and Zagreb will ultimately reach an out-of-court settlement, which is one of the possible options that Serbia has already unsuccessfully offered to Croatia.

Croatia first lodged the genocide suit in 1999.

Zagreb called for Serbia to be found guilty of breaching the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide during the 1991-95 war.

In recent years, the ICJ has declared itself competent to hear Bosnia-Hercegovina’s case against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, and has only once declared a case outwith its jurisdiction—the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia’s suit against NATO member-states over the 1999 air strikes.

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Re: Croatia vs Serbia vs Croatia cases at ICJ
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 08:02:06 PM »
Serbia will sue Croatia for Storm crimes

18 November 2008 | 20:25 -> 21:00 | Source: Tanjug

BELGRADE -- Serbia will file a lawsuit against Croatia for ethnic cleansing and war crimes committed during the so-called Op Storm, FM Vuk Jeremić said late on Tuesday.

"Croatia did not appropriately respond to the hand of reconciliation which Serbia repeatedly offered, with a desire to leave the past behind and turn to our common future in Europe. A lawsuit will now be filed against Croatia in order for the truth finally to be found out," the minister told the state television RTS.

Jeremić said that Croatia had refused to face the fact that 250,000 ethnic Serbs had been ethnically cleansed from the territory of Croatia in 1995.

"We will do all in our power to have our case appropriately presented to the court. We will review all developments in the 20th century, World War II and Independent State of Croatia. We will turn to history to find out the truth for the sake of our common future," the foreign minister stressed.

Speaking about the two states' future relations, Jeremić said that Serbia wants the best relations with her neighbors, but that the truth about the crimes committed during Operation Storm must be revealed.

"Our common future is the European future. We will turn to history to determine the truth for the sake of our common future," Jeremić said.

He explained that the lawsuit will be filed wit the International Court of Justice (ICJ), which today ruled itself competent to take on Croatia's genocide suit against Serbia.

Belgrade mulls "counter-suit"

Earlier, Serbia's legal representative to the ICJ Tibor Varadi said that Belgrade could sue Croatia for the genocide committed against the Serbs in the last war.

The counter-lawsuit must refer to genocide, which is the subject matter of Croatia's legal action against Serbia, since the ICJ is competent to process only for the gravest crimes, Varadi said in a statement to Tanjug.

He added that unless the two sides reach an out-of-court settlement, a public debate on the merit of the dispute would follow and the court would then most likely give Serbia a one-year deadline to prepare its defense and possible counter-suit, and the entire procedure might last for at least three years.

Varadi said that all objections of the Serbian team had not been rejected, since the court believed that they belonged to the merit of the dispute, rather than the preliminary decision on competence.

He said that it was good that the key issue was whether Serbia could be held liable for crimes committed during the armed conflicts before April 27, 1992, when the FR Yugoslavia (SRJ) was still not established as a state.

Varadi said that the Serbian legal team had prepared for defense for the past eight years and that it had worked on the counter-suit in parallel.

According to this expert, "it would have been good if the court had decided that it was not competent, because it would be politically good and healthy to stop with confrontations and continue determining individual responsibility for crimes committed on all sides".

Varadi recalled that Serbia had repeatedly made it very clear that it was ready for an out-of-court settlement, but that Croatia had ignored it and added that it was now Croatia's turn to react.

Varadi also revealed that he will no longer head the Serbian legal team, because it was agreed previously that he should deal only with the procedural part of the dispute.

Also in Belgrade on Tuesday, Justice Snežana Malović commented on the news out of The Hague by saying that "Serbia's arguments will be accepted and that the final ruling will be in Serbia's favor".

She told reporters that that the possibility of a settlement or Serbia's counter-lawsuit will be considered but that a decision on this will be made at a later date.

Malović called on political structures of the two countries to reconcile, "because that is one of the main conditions for the European integration of the countries in the region", Tanjug reported.

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Re: Croatia vs Serbia vs Croatia cases at ICJ
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2008, 02:49:08 AM »
"Croatia suing Serbia for genocide" during the 1990's?! Is this Croatia's idea of a sick joke? This is akin to Hitler's crumbling Third Reich suing the Jewish diaspora in 1945 for "genocide against the German people"


"Jeremić said that Croatia had refused to face the fact that 250,000 ethnic Serbs had been ethnically cleansed from the territory of Croatia in 1995."

The Krajina military frontier province never belonged to - nor was it ever a legitimate part of Croatia - unless of course you regard Hitler's and Mussolini's Ustasha NDH Indepenedent State of Croatia's borders during the Holocaust as "legitimate".

Just because the West - in the form of the European Community [EC] - ILLEGALLY recognized Krajina as being "a part of Croatia" in January of 1992 does not make it legitimate or legal.

Jeremic also failed to mention the 300,000 Serbs ethnically cleansed from Krajina from late 1990 to July 1995.

Jeremic is clearly a sycophantic lackey of Washington and the EU - owing his political appointment to Boris Tadic and the SPS socialists.

International Strategic Studies Association's  Defense & Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy journal report from January 1993, entitled "Croatia, at a Key Strategic Crossroad, Builds Militarily and Geographically"

"The Krijena offensive demonstrated Croatian military strength, but it also raised the question to an international audience as to whether the shape of Croatia itself, so hastily agreed by the European community and then the UN, is in fact legal or valid. Krijena was never a Croat area, and, indeed, Dalmatia itself was historically never part of the region normally associated with Croatia".

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Jan3193.htm
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Re: Croatia vs Serbia vs Croatia cases at ICJ
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2008, 03:49:19 AM »
"Croatia suing Serbia for genocide" during the 1990's?! Is this Croatia's idea of a sick joke? This is akin to Hitler's crumbling Third Reich suing the Jewish diaspora in 1945 for "genocide against the German people"


"Jeremić said that Croatia had refused to face the fact that 250,000 ethnic Serbs had been ethnically cleansed from the territory of Croatia in 1995."

Yeah,Josh..something like that,but even worst.Croatia is suing Serbia for ethnic cleansing of Serbs during Operation Storm,too.  :o So it would be more like that todays Germany is starting process against Israel for crimes against Jewish community.Really weird thing,but hey welcome to Balkans. ;D At least Serbia will make case from NDH 41-45 to todays day and that is 19.11.2008.I don't know what took our ministry so long.

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Re: Croatia vs Serbia vs Croatia cases at ICJ
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 03:33:49 AM »
"Croatia suing Serbia for genocide" during the 1990's?! Is this Croatia's idea of a sick joke? This is akin to Hitler's crumbling Third Reich suing the Jewish diaspora in 1945 for "genocide against the German people"


"Jeremić said that Croatia had refused to face the fact that 250,000 ethnic Serbs had been ethnically cleansed from the territory of Croatia in 1995."

Yeah,Josh..something like that,but even worst.Croatia is suing Serbia for ethnic cleansing of Serbs during Operation Storm,too.  :o So it would be more like that todays Germany is starting process against Israel for crimes against Jewish community.Really weird thing,but hey welcome to Balkans. ;D At least Serbia will make case from NDH 41-45 to todays day and that is 19.11.2008.I don't know what took our ministry so long.

Exactly, what took so long!!
And why are the Serbs the ones who are retaliating instead of initiating?
Still over 200,000 Serbian refugees who are unable to come back, and the current Serbian government is so spineless as to say that it is willing to put the past behind and move forward!

Forward to what?
Another ethnic War in 50 years?

Past issues need to be addressed, and Croatia needs to be accountable for its fascist actions.
However there are some obstacles in our way.
The Hague is notorious for being anti Serb, and not a place of justice.
I hope that Serbia will get a fair hearing and that the atrocities committed by the Ustashi 41-45 will be taken into consideration.
I also hope that the Serbian government has the balls to take it all the way, and not accept any settlements in exchange for better relations.
Every brother is a deceiver, and every friend a slanderer.
(Jeremiah 9:4)