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Offline White Israelite

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Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« on: November 21, 2008, 02:39:49 PM »
Well I don't know what Torah says about it, but there's been a lot of talk about space and mars lately, I'm admittedly a space junky myself. With the universe being so large and so many planets, the chance of life somewhere is very likely but does Torah mention anything about other forms of life or creatures? I'm not talking your average hillbilly who sees a UFO in his backyard or cropcircles as I think that's fabricated but life on other planets. Is it possible there is another life form that even follows Torah? I think it is mentioned that there are several dimensions somewhere.

I know eventually we will run out of crucial resources like oil and iron, we will need to obtain these somewhere. Mars has plenty of iron. The moon is rumored to contain Helium-3.

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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2008, 02:43:35 PM »
there might be, but so what? I highly doubt humans can survive on any other planet for a long term basis.
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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2008, 02:49:52 PM »
I've heard a rabbi and a preacher say that stating there is no life beyond earth is stating G-d is limited to his creation. Makes sense to me.

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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2008, 03:07:04 PM »
there might be, but so what? I highly doubt humans can survive on any other planet for a long term basis.

Curiosity, why else would these planets exist? There must be meaning in their existence. Maybe God intended for us to use these planets for resources or if we had to leave earth for some reason?

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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2008, 03:27:21 PM »
Well, if he's the God of the universe, and we're talking about planets in this gallaxy which are in this universe, then why not?
Are the other planets created by him?
Then why can't some of them carry life?
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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2008, 06:42:40 PM »
I'm guessing there is.

BUT!!!!! I have this strange feeling... that we MAY be the only intelligent ones out there.  But thats just a guess.... who knows!!!


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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2008, 06:45:39 PM »
As the same chemical and physical processes that are present on Earth appear to be consistant thoughout the local region of our universe...why should there not be life?
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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2008, 10:25:59 PM »
there might be, but so what? I highly doubt humans can survive on any other planet for a long term basis.

Curiosity, why else would these planets exist?

 Everything (all these planets) that G-d created, He created only for Israel (check Brachot 32).
 Also to see the glory of Hashe-m, the greatness of G-d who created it all.

 About life on other planets it's a debate and both use RambaN's words where he says that their isn't life on other planets like the life here. (So some say that their is life but without free choice like here, and other's take it to mean that their isn't other life.). And then again their are mentions of other forms of life in places like the Zohar, but I cant say what it really means. maybe its mashol and not literal. We dont know for sure untile we will see. (Not only life on other planet's, but life deep on this earth, deep deep down. I think the Zohar, maybe Talmud not sure talks about it).
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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2008, 10:34:38 PM »
If it's there then God knows about it and had a hand in forming it.

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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2008, 10:41:02 PM »
Well I don't know what Torah says about it,<snip>

In a previous thread (about the 6000 years, remember?) , a thread that you recently *started*..

I mentioned this link
including the words "Classic webpage" after it!

if you'd have read it you'd see it talks about aliens.

http://www.jewishmag.com/8MAG/WORLDS/worlds1.htm (Classic webpage)

ther are things in the Zohar about aliens, as Tzvi mentions.

here's a classic paragraph!

"Gehinnom (Hell) is identified as being at the fourth level called Gey, while, at the fifth level, in a world called Nishiyah, there lives a small statured race who are said to be all male (perhaps, androgynous),who have no noses, but only two slits through which they breathe. Sound familiar? Furthermore, a translation of the word Nishiyah means something like 'dreamlike' or 'amnesiac'. Earth, itself, is, of course, at the seventh level, and is known in the Zohar as Tevel.
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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2008, 10:46:37 PM »
Zohar is the Talmud? What's Zohar?

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Re: Aliens/other lifeform on planets?
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2008, 10:58:54 PM »
Zohar is the Talmud? What's Zohar?

A mystical text, accepted by most religious jews.

It's not a foundation of judaism..Not central to it. In that the text was discovered less than a thousand year ago. Curiously it had not even been mentioned beforehand.   There was of course orthodox judaism before the zohar. So many rabbis had never heard of it, but still new judaism inside out. 

The talmud and tenach are real core texts of judaism