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Offline Muck DeFuslims

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New Group Dedicated To Fighting The '2 State Solution'
« on: December 11, 2008, 02:07:47 PM »
Seems like a natural ally for JTF.

http://www.the18.org/manifesto.html




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Re: New Group Dedicated To Fighting The '2 State Solution'
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2008, 02:11:29 PM »
Ooops, I didn't notice AsheDina already posted a link to a video from this group.

Anyway, the manifesto and mission statement are worth reading.

I'm going to join.

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Re: New Group Dedicated To Fighting The '2 State Solution'
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2008, 02:21:55 PM »
pretty bad to be seen viewing that site in public though..

Many are aware that 18 is a code nazis use for AH, Adolf Hitler ysz.

I'm sure that site uses it innocently, but still (the problem remains)




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Re: New Group Dedicated To Fighting The '2 State Solution'
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2008, 02:01:56 PM »
pretty bad to be seen viewing that site in public though..

Many are aware that 18 is a code nazis use for AH, Adolf Hitler ysz.

I'm sure that site uses it innocently, but still (the problem remains)



18 is also Chai. Life in Hebrew

18 is the numerical value of God
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Re: New Group Dedicated To Fighting The '2 State Solution'
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2008, 04:45:57 PM »
pretty bad to be seen viewing that site in public though..

Many are aware that 18 is a code nazis use for AH, Adolf Hitler ysz.

I'm sure that site uses it innocently, but still (the problem remains)



18 is also Chai. Life in Hebrew

18 is the numerical value of G-d

different names for G-d have different numerical values.
there may be many numbers people associate with G-d.

YKVK-26,
elokim- more than that.

I don't know which  way you associate 18, but I wouldn't call any number "the numerical value of G-d".

If one thinks infinity is appropriate - infinity is not a number.

Anyhow given the bad connotation of 18, that it is used as a sign between nazis, it's not a good idea to show the number in big letters on a website.  Just as it would be unwise to have it on some t-shirt. Unless one is a nazi. Because it is used by them.

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Re: New Group Dedicated To Fighting The '2 State Solution'
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2008, 05:17:32 PM »
18 is also the name of the prayer the Jews recite 3 times a day - Shmona Esre ("The eighteen [blessings]")

Do Nazis use 18 as the sign of the their dead rotten idol? I thought they use 88.

Despite all this, I agree with q_q_ that 18 is not appropriate as the sign of Jewish power. It can still be associated with Nazi 88. And our enemies would certainly say: Jews are Nazis, they even use similar numbers.

Jews don't need to borrow signs of power from other peoples, especially from our haters. We have a plenty of ours. In fact, the opposite is true: German Teuton crusaders borrowed a sign of power from us. Their motto "Gott mit uns" - G-d with us - is just a translation of a Hebrew name "Immanuel".
Do not put your trust in princes, nor in a son of man, in whom there is no help (Psalms 146:3)

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Re: New Group Dedicated To Fighting The '2 State Solution'
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 12:12:18 AM »
 ;D I got no problem with the 2-state solution.You have 2 states in the original Palestine already, Israel & "Jordan" that was created in 1922 from East Palestine by Winston Churchill solely for the benefit of Emir Abdullah. OK ,fine ! As long as we do not have to permanently acccept a 3-4  state solution like now-"Hamastan/Gaza" (not too long for the world hopefully) & "fatahland" in the West Bank.