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Accepting the Torah, But Remaining a Gentile
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: muman613 on December 19, 2008, 03:20:52 PM ---I have watched Rabbi Mizrachi and have not heard a thing which is not true. I dont know why some people here feel a need to disprect Rabbis who have studied and present the Torah in a very powerful message.
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Muman, Rabbi Mizrahi is far from perfect, which is normal for a human being. I am always skeptical of anyone who leaves israel. He needs to stop the christian bashing because it doesn't make him look that smart. Why bash people who support israel, unless he doesn't care about israel. I honestly believe his is just not bright and that is why he gets involved in this stuff. I try to believe that he doesn't do it intentionally. If he bashes christians, then why did he come to a christian country? He ran away from a jewish country didn't he?
muman613:
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on December 19, 2008, 03:53:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: muman613 on December 19, 2008, 03:20:52 PM ---I have watched Rabbi Mizrachi and have not heard a thing which is not true. I dont know why some people here feel a need to disprect Rabbis who have studied and present the Torah in a very powerful message.
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Muman, Rabbi Mizrahi is far from perfect, which is normal for a human being. I am always skeptical of anyone who leaves israel. He needs to stop the christian bashing because it doesn't make him look that smart. Why bash people who support israel, unless he doesn't care about israel. I honestly believe his is just not bright and that is why he gets involved in this stuff. I try to believe that he doesn't do it intentionally. If he bashes christians, then why did he come to a christian country? He ran away from a jewish country didn't he?
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DWI,
I share with Rabbi Mizrachi a very serious problem with Christian missionaries. I dont want to get involved in bringing up sensitive topics so I will leave it at this. When I was a young man I was told by a Christian friend I was going to hell. I was never friends again with this person.
I don't consider America a Christian country as you do. Our constitution clearly intends America to be religiously nuetral and that is what makes it so great. Freedom of Religion is Americas true strength and is why my family emigrated here at the turn of the 20th century.
My family has suffered mightily to the ravages of Assimiliation. America has been so good to the Jew that it has quitely killed the Jewish soul. There are no Jews left in my family because all have married non-Jewish women. I am the only true Jew left in my family. I work hard on trying to preserve the Jewish identity in a culture which is very anti-Jewish.
PS: Israel should not need non-Jewish support. Never in our history has anything good come from the nations for the Jewish people. Why should we believe it will change?
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
C.F. he does refute islam also. And about missionizing, I was referring to that specific guy he had the dabate with- that guy came to us (our community) and was missionizing door to door. So he was invited for a debate, and the rest is on tape.
Anyway DWI im sorry to say that you are just inflaming things, please show some respect to Rav Mizrachi. Again if you really care about the Israel thing then just email or call him. Infact come to 108th street (Beit Gavriel) on the 31th and ask him in person if you want.
And by the way, he does talk down about Arabs (as does the Torah) "Peri Adam". And with the whole insuting chrisitians thing- he doesn't really insult chrisitians, maybe once in a while he might refer to jc as jc penny. Or say that marry was you know what, but he directs it more to the religion (not the people).
Anyway about allies- not everyone sees it that way. If their is an organization that does then that is their buisness, and it doesn't make it obligatory for everyone else to follow that. (And by the Torah- straight from the Bible I can show you that the prophets said counter to that also).
What you see is your own little mission. And as long as other groups support that mission of yours then everything else is okay. What you see is supporting zionism, so as long as anyone supposidly supports Jews going back to Israel, everything else is completly okay by you. (You will probably say no but if you analyze your thoughts and at least what you write and who you see as "good" and "bad" or "right and wrong" it is completly based on who supports Jews living in Israel or not, ignoring everything else.
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Rabbi Mizrachi's website is for jews.
Yes. some over-zealous unwise newly religious jewish idiot(s) post RABBI VS CHRISTIAN onto the forum, and gentiles ignorant of these things, get that impression.
The torahanytime website is for jews, and things dealing with christianity are counter-missionary.. Or, purely targetted at jews to try to get them to believe judaism.
It's not bashing other religions.
It's about bringing jews to judaism. It's not for gentiles e.g. christians and muslims.
q_q_:
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on December 19, 2008, 12:19:58 PM ---<snip>
Q_Q, I know that JudeaNoncapta doesn't like Chabad, <snip>
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just to be clear, I didn't say that.
I said that his argument about a third of the torah any time ,applies to them and most orthodox jews in the world....
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