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Accepting the Torah, But Remaining a Gentile
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
" will say though that any so-called Christian who is convinced to leave their faith never was one in the first place."
No. Their are x- christians who knew a lot, one of them even spoke publicly in Beit Gavriel (a latino like you). was verry religious, spoke about his life, etc. and then how he changed by seeing the debate.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on December 19, 2008, 03:03:41 PM ---Also with moslems- 1 we dont see them missionizing (and if that was the case other things would be done- probably will be more aggressive)
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That's not true; dawa (evangelism) is one of the central commandments of Islam. In parts of London, it's impossible to walk two blocks without getting preached to by a bunch of ragheads.
--- Quote ---and 2-People have to be smart, and people must take care of their life. If someone who doesn't have body guards talks agains't these fanatics, then they can be dead like rushdie (actually I remembered now that R Mizrachi did origionally talk very strongly agains't islam, but then they edited the Divine Information video, becuase it is just no worth it if it will not change anything.)
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Anything can happen to anybody. It isn't "safe" to criticize Islam anywhere, certainly not even Israel (where the Bolshevik apparatus of the state and most of the population alike both give preferential treatment to Muslims over each other). I am not advocating wild, blatant flaming, but he can scathingly refute the premises of Islam without being willfully insulting. Why does he have the need to insult Christianity? What does he hope to accomplish by flaming Christianity? All he is going to do by this is push his natural allies away and convince Christians and many fellow Jews alike that he is a crackpot.
--- Quote ---It was the same in the past with christian europe. The Rabbis would not talk strong words agains't that because they knew that they would endanger themselves and their communities. And they did what they HAD to do.
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This isn't "Christian" medieval Europe. Christians are not Amalek today. I see what you are saying but the Christians of today (or at least many of them) have not done anything to merit this attack. If Rabbi Mizrahi is merely debating a Christian evangelist who has come to him that is one thing, but to just flame Christians in general is completely uncalled-for and a cheap shot.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on December 19, 2008, 03:06:29 PM ---" will say though that any so-called Christian who is convinced to leave their faith never was one in the first place."
No. Their are x- christians who knew a lot, one of them even spoke publicly in Beit Gavriel (a latino like you). was verry religious, spoke about his life, etc. and then how he changed by seeing the debate.
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It is a matter of teaching in the Christian Scriptures (the New Testament) that anyone who "goes out from" the Christian faith never belonged to it in a first place; therefore, this is central Christian doctrine, and not just opinion. That is why I said what I did.
muman613:
The difference between Christians and Muslims is:
The Christian will kill the Jew spiritually (Assimiliation/Intermarriage and Crusades/Inquisitions)
The Muslim will kill the Jew physically (Jihad)
I have heard many Rabbis make this statement.
muman613:
I have watched Rabbi Mizrachi and have not heard a thing which is not true. I dont know why some people here feel a need to disprect Rabbis who have studied and present the Torah in a very powerful message.
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