WALMART, SHOP RITE, AND NAZI CAKE.

[angryChineseKahanist]

Shoprite denies little boy his birthday cake

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/12/16/2008-12-16_happy_birthday_adolf_hitler_boy_with_naz.html

[mr. bungle]

Recently, an anti-Semite who named his child Adolf Hitler (Adolf Hitler Campbell) went to Shop Rite to have a birthday cake made up with "HAPPY BIRTHDAY ADOLF HITLER" on it, along with a swastika.  Shop Rite refused.  He then went to Wal-Mart and they agreed to do it.  (Or so the story goes.)

I'm wondering if anyone else has heard this on the news, and what you think of it -- especially in light of Wal-Mart's commendable decision to remove the pro-Islam dolls from their shelves.  Should they have refused to make the cake?  Does it matter?  I'm not suggesting it doesn't, I'm just not sure what the real ramifications are.  On the one hand, I would like to throw this guy a beating.  On the other, making the cake for him with the ant-Semitic sentiments drawn in frosting is not the same as selling an anti-Semitic product.

[MasterWolf1]

Hats off to Shop Rite

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

Anyone who names their child "Adolf Hitler" should be killed together with their children.

Having any dealings with these Satanic Nazi Amalekites is the height of wickedness. The Walmart employees who sold them the cake should also be killed.

The Biblical commandment is to exterminate Amalek in every generation. Amalek are all nations and individuals that make war against the Jewish people.

[zachor_ve_kavod]

Anyone who names their child "Adolf Hitler" should be killed together with their children.

Having any dealings with these Satanic Nazi Amalekites is the height of wickedness. The Walmart employees who sold them the cake should also be killed.

The Biblical commandment is to exterminate Amalek in every generation. Amalek are all nations and individuals that make war against the Jewish people.

Wait a minute.  Why should their children be killed?  They didn't name themselves.

[angryChineseKahanist]

The children are innocent.
The parents are retarded.
The man looks like a dope addict.

[muman613]

Anyone who names their child "Adolf Hitler" should be killed together with their children.

Having any dealings with these Satanic Nazi Amalekites is the height of wickedness. The Walmart employees who sold them the cake should also be killed.

The Biblical commandment is to exterminate Amalek in every generation. Amalek are all nations and individuals that make war against the Jewish people.

Wait a minute.  Why should their children be killed?  They didn't name themselves.

Because the children are a product of their parents. Torah says that he will curse to the fourth generation and bless to the thousand generation...

Exodus 20:4-6
"
for I the LORD thy G-d am a jealous G-d, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me;  5 and showing mercy unto the thousandth generation of them that love Me and keep My commandments. {S}  6 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy G-d in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain. {P}
"

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

Anyone who names their child "Adolf Hitler" should be killed together with their children.

Having any dealings with these Satanic Nazi Amalekites is the height of wickedness. The Walmart employees who sold them the cake should also be killed.

The Biblical commandment is to exterminate Amalek in every generation. Amalek are all nations and individuals that make war against the Jewish people.

Wait a minute.  Why should their children be killed?  They didn't name themselves.

The children are rodfim (pursuers of Jewish blood), because when they grow up, they will very likely become Nazis as well.

And BTW, the reporters who are doing stories sympathetic to the Nazis should also be killed.

[zachor_ve_kavod]

That's sounds harsh to me, but if it says that in the Torah, then it is right and I'm not.

[Noah]

Anyone who names their child "Adolf Hitler" should be killed together with their children.

Having any dealings with these Satanic Nazi Amalekites is the height of wickedness. The Walmart employees who sold them the cake should also be killed.

The Biblical commandment is to exterminate Amalek in every generation. Amalek are all nations and individuals that make war against the Jewish people.

Wait a minute.  Why should their children be killed?  They didn't name themselves.

The children are rodfim (pursuers of Jewish blood), because when they grow up, they will very likely become Nazis as well.

And BTW, the reporters who are doing stories sympathetic to the Nazis should also be killed.

Children are innocent. That poor child should be taken from its parents but not killed.

Shame on you, Chaim!

[muman613]

That's sounds harsh to me, but if it says that in the Torah, then it is right and I'm not.

Yes it sounds harsh and I believe most Jews would not go about carrying it out. But the Torah also has a mitzvah called the "Mitzvah of the Rebellious son" which requires a parent to turn in a rebellious child to be put to death. Whenever I read it it terrifies me because I was a rebellious son.

In Parashat Ki Setzi it is written:

(Devarim 21:18 - 21) When a man has a wayward, rebellious son, who does not obey his father and mother, they shall have him flogged. If he still does not listen to them...(The parents) must declare to the elders of his city, "Our son here is wayward and rebellious. He does not listen to us, and is an (exceptional) glutton and drunkard . And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die; so shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

http://www.shemayisrael.co.il/Parasha/leff/archives/kisetzei.htm

The Gemara explains that the rebellious son is killed now because if allowed to continue on the same path he will eventually become a robber and murderer. He is killed for his own benefit so that he doesn't lose his portion in the World to Come. From this we learn the most important lesson of child-rearing. A parent must focus on the souls of his child and his eternal status even more intensely that his physical well-being. What parent would think of exposing his child to even a slight chance of catching a serious communicable disease? How much more so should a parent protect his child from an environment that might exert negative spiritual influences. If we fret over our child's ability to earn a living, how much more so should we be concerned that he or she grow to be a successful ben or bas Torah.

[zachor_ve_kavod]

That's sounds harsh to me, but if it says that in the Torah, then it is right and I'm not.

Yes it sounds harsh and I believe most Jews would not go about carrying it out. But the Torah also has a mitzvah called the "Mitzvah of the Rebellious son" which requires a parent to turn in a rebellious child to be put to death. Whenever I read it it terrifies me because I was a rebellious son.

In Parashat Ki Setzi it is written:

(Devarim 21:18 - 21) When a man has a wayward, rebellious son, who does not obey his father and mother, they shall have him flogged. If he still does not listen to them...(The parents) must declare to the elders of his city, "Our son here is wayward and rebellious. He does not listen to us, and is an (exceptional) glutton and drunkard . And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die; so shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

http://www.shemayisrael.co.il/Parasha/leff/archives/kisetzei.htm

The Gemara explains that the rebellious son is killed now because if allowed to continue on the same path he will eventually become a robber and murderer. He is killed for his own benefit so that he doesn't lose his portion in the World to Come. From this we learn the most important lesson of child-rearing. A parent must focus on the souls of his child and his eternal status even more intensely that his physical well-being. What parent would think of exposing his child to even a slight chance of catching a serious communicable disease? How much more so should a parent protect his child from an environment that might exert negative spiritual influences. If we fret over our child's ability to earn a living, how much more so should we be concerned that he or she grow to be a successful ben or bas Torah.

And this is a mitzvot that I cannot do.

[muman613]

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And this is a mitzvot that I cannot do.

Zachor, Read the commentary... It is very interesting in that it explains this mitzvah:

http://www.shemayisrael.co.il/parsha/leff/archives/kisetzei.htm

The Gemara (Sanhedrin 71a) says that there never was a rebellious son executed by beis din. The topic was recorded in the Torah in order to learn and receive reward. But even if there never was rebellious son, we can learn a great deal about chinuch banim (raising children) from a careful study of the Torah's description of the rebellious son. By studying the factors that help create a son so tainted that it is a chesed to kill him while he is still young and has not yet committed all the heinous crimes he otherwise would, we can learn to do the opposite with our own children.

It must be clear at the outset that there are no sure-fire rules of education that apply to all children at all times. Reishis Chachmah quotes a midrash that it is easier to raise a legion of olive trees in the Galilee, where the soil and climate are not conducive to growing olive trees, than to raise one child in Eretz Yisrael, even though Eretz Yisrael is conduce to proper education, since the atmosphere itself helps to imbue one with wisdom and holiness.

Children are not objects to be fashioned at will, but rather human beings who have their own free will and can reject, if they so choose, even the best chinuch. The most a parent can hope to achieve, as Chiddushei HaRim points out regarding all learning, is to put the words of Torah on the heart of the child so that when the heart opens up, the Torah found on it will sink into the receptive heart.

The law of the rebellious son is applicable only when the child is thirteen and for the next three months, i.e., at the very inception of his manhood. This points to the importance of a proper foundation in the education of children š that early education forms the basis of the child's experience and hence is the root and foundation of his life.

Avos deRav Nosson expounds on the Mishnah in Pirkei Avos (4:25), "One who studies Torah as a child, to what can he be likened? — to ink, written on fresh paper." Just as ink is readily absorbed into new paper, so the Torah learned when young permeates the very fiber of the child's being.

Alshich explains the injunction (Mishlei 22:6), "Educate the youth according to his path," as a warning to put him on the proper path before he develops the wrong path on his own. The proper beginning is crucial, for it forms the root, and any blemish in the root will manifest itself a thousand-fold in the resultant growth. A strong root, however, insures a healthy plant.

The Torah describes the rebellious son as not heeding the voice (kol) of his father and mother. Maharal points out that a kol denotes a voice or noise, something not necessarily intelligible. The rebellious son listens to his parents when their words make sense to him, but when their directives are not understood by him, he ignores them.

A child must be taught to rely on his parents' instructions and trust in their desire and ability to guide him on the proper path, even though he may not understand or grasps the wisdom of their directions. Though a parent should try to explain to the child the reasons for his directions and instructions, the child must be taught that in the end whether he understands or not, he must accept his parents' authority.

The learns from the phrase, "he does not listen to our voices," that to be deemed a rebellious son, both parents must have similar voices. Both parents' guidance must reflect the same values, and they must be consistent in their instruction. If the parents do not speak with one voice, their child cannot be deemed rebellious because the blame for his rebellious behavior is not his alone.

The parents must point at their son and say "this son of ours." If the parents are blind and thus incapable of pointing him out, the son cannot be deemed a rebellious son. The requirement that the parents be able to see hints to the necessity of parents viewing each child as an individual, with unique gifts and needs, who must be educated according to his individual personality. If parents are blind predetermined formula, the child can also not be fully blamed.

To be classified as a rebellious son, he must steal money from his parents to eat and drink like a glutton. This conduct shows, says Ibn Ezra, a distorted outlook. The glutton makes the pleasures of this world his only goal rather than seeing this world as the place to prepare for eternal spiritual life. The meat and wine he consumed could have been glatt kosher. It is not enough to teach a child that he does not become a Jew in form but not in substance.

The Gemara explains that the rebellious son is killed now because if allowed to continue on the same path he will eventually become a robber and murderer. He is killed for his own benefit so that he doesn't lose his portion in the World to Come. From this we learn the most important lesson of child-rearing. A parent must focus on the souls of his child and his eternal status even more intensely that his physical well-being. What parent would think of exposing his child to even a slight chance of catching a serious communicable disease? How much more so should a parent protect his child from an environment that might exert negative spiritual influences. If we fret over our child's ability to earn a living, how much more so should we be concerned that he or she grow to be a successful ben or bas Torah.

We should remember in Elul that there is no greater merit for the Day of Judgment than having raised a child properly. The Zohar teaches that when an individual appears before the Heavenly Court after one hundred and twenty years, G-d inquires if he educated his children properly. If the answer is affirmative, Hashem refuses to accept any more testimony against him, for the merit of guiding his children properly overshadows everything else.

May we learn the deep lessons contained in the Torah's discussion of the rebellious son so that we merit to raise children fully occupied in Torah and mitzvos.

[briann]

I'm a bit of a softie when it comes to kids.  But if they are above a certain age... then by all means... then they should be hung out to dry for practicing such evil. 

THis is also why I am pro-life.  If a satanic mom has an abortion... it may seem like the right thing to do... but that baby is innocent... at least until he/she starts becoming another satanist and is above a certain age.... Im not sure what that age is.

I also believe this about Hitler Youth and Islam.   If after their brainwashing ordeal.. they can be saved... and completely renounce their ways... then I'm ok with them.  But this assumes a completely genuine renouncement of their evil past... and not Taqqiya.

[angryChineseKahanist]

Yes, I agree the children can be saved.
The parents are both crazy so they can't be saved.

The children are only three. They can be renamed jack, jane and jill. They'll never know this happened when they're grown up.
They can be made normal kids.

[Rubystars]

I respect Chaim's view of this as it's based in the Jewish religion. However I disagree that these kids are likely to become Nazis themselves. I think they're more likely to grow up being really resentful of what their parents did to them and will rebel against this type of idiocy. At least I hope that's what happens.

[Zevida]

The picture of the kid with his parents looks like he has two mom's to me.  They're both quite feminine in appearance.  Whoever agreed to make this type of cake is probably also a member of the Aryan Nation.  Note the couples daughters are named JoyceLynn Aryan Nation and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie.  They probably live in some backwards little town that hates Jews even though they've never actually seen one. 

They're morons---people like that should do the world a favor and kill themselves.  Then we don't have to worry about them anymroe.

[Dnew]

All Nazis, their children, their grand children, their friends and their dogs should be exterminated.
Exterminated in the most painful and inhumane way

[briann]

It reminds me of Prussian Blue. 



The mom apparently brainwashed them from the second they were born. 

Ive heard they've tried to distance themselves from their upbringing now... but either way... a mom who does this is pure evil.

[Noah]

All Nazis, their children, their grand children, their friends and their dogs should be exterminated.
Exterminated in the most painful and inhumane way

Children are incapable of being Nazis.  They're innocent.

[AsheDina]

Anyone who names their child "Adolf Hitler" should be killed together with their children.

Having any dealings with these Satanic Nazi Amalekites is the height of wickedness. The Walmart employees who sold them the cake should also be killed.

The Biblical commandment is to exterminate Amalek in every generation. Amalek are all nations and individuals that make war against the Jewish people.

Wait a minute.  Why should their children be killed?  They didn't name themselves.

Because the children are a product of their parents. Torah says that he will curse to the fourth generation and bless to the thousand generation...

Exodus 20:4-6
"
for I the LORD thy G-d am a jealous G-d, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me;  5 and showing mercy unto the thousandth generation of them that love Me and keep My commandments. {S}  6 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy G-d in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain. {P}
"

  Muman,

  Dont you think that if Saul did his JOB that we would not have these ENEMIES today??

[AsheDina]

It reminds me of Prussian Blue. 



The mom apparently brainwashed them from the second they were born. 

Ive heard they've tried to distance themselves from their upbringing now... but either way... a mom who does this is pure evil.

  The mother is a SICKO pig, she is EMBRACING what our grandparents fought AGAINST. These little girls.... you all think they "dont know" what they are wearing?? OH YES THEY DO. And I BET that they are JERKS in their schools, and their parents are EVIL, and mock their grandparents. They calculate over 18 MILLION people, PLUS SIX million Jews were MURDERED in the holocaust- they must LOVE obama, b/c Hi#ler was a LEFTIST, and THIS IS EXACTLY what HUSSEIN WANTS TO DO.

[AsheDina]

  You should all think twice if you DONT think that children cant become DAMIEN OMEN OBAMAS

 

[Noah]

Anyone who names their child "Adolf Hitler" should be killed together with their children.

Having any dealings with these Satanic Nazi Amalekites is the height of wickedness. The Walmart employees who sold them the cake should also be killed.

The Biblical commandment is to exterminate Amalek in every generation. Amalek are all nations and individuals that make war against the Jewish people.

No. The child should be taken from its parents and raised by a different family, not killed. Culture makes people bad, not genetics. Just like you say about black people.

[angryChineseKahanist]

What are we afraid of?
If they grow up to be decent, we leave them alone.
If they grow up to be Nazis, we can put them in work camps via railroad and give them hot showers.