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muman613:
Hindu Zionist,
Please visit the website http://www.aish.com . It is an incredible site which contains much Jewish wisdom and insight. I am a supporter of the Aish HaTorah Yeshiva which teaches many thousands of students all around the world.
q_q_:
--- Quote from: muman613 on December 18, 2008, 03:31:27 PM ---Hindu Zionist,
Please visit the website http://www.aish.com . It is an incredible site which contains much Jewish wisdom and insight. I am a supporter of the Aish HaTorah Yeshiva which teaches many thousands of students all around the world.
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AISH IS FOR JEWS
IT'S FOR JEWS. THEY TEACH THOUSANDS OF **JEWISH STUDENTS**
I know what has influenced you. You linked to a Rabbi lazer brody video and mention him alot. I reckon you listen to him alot.. But from the video I saw, it seems perhaps you have completely misunderstood him.
He talked there about preaching outwards about emunah. Because it is universal. He is not talking generally about teaching Torah to gentiles.
muman613:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on December 19, 2008, 12:30:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: muman613 on December 18, 2008, 03:31:27 PM ---Hindu Zionist,
Please visit the website http://www.aish.com . It is an incredible site which contains much Jewish wisdom and insight. I am a supporter of the Aish HaTorah Yeshiva which teaches many thousands of students all around the world.
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AISH IS FOR JEWS
IT'S FOR JEWS. THEY TEACH THOUSANDS OF **JEWISH STUDENTS**
I know what has influenced you. You linked to a Rabbi lazer brody video and mention him alot. I reckon you listen to him alot.. But from the video I saw, it seems perhaps you have completely misunderstood him.
He talked there about preaching outwards about emunah. Because it is universal. He is not talking generally about teaching Torah to gentiles.
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I am not teaching to gentiles. I too watched that video last night and I do not misunderstand him. I do believe that the whole world will come to know Hashem. If there are souls who are seeking Hashem there is no reason why we should not allow them to pursue it. This doesnt take away from the Jewish mission which is to bring Hashem into the world and to take care of our people first. I do take care of Jewish causes first, and then I give to non-Jewish causes.
You heard Rabbi Brody say that a bunch of American Indians have bought copies of the "Garden of Emuna" which is a book about Torah and Jewish faith. I dont want to argue with you about this again. Please realize that my only point in pointing people towards Torah if they are interested is because I believe {and have heard Rabbis explain} that during the messianic age evil will be banished and all humanity will live in peace, not just the Jewish nation.
Please show me a law or halacha I am violating if I am doing so. If I am wrong I will apologize {as you know I have in the past}. I have read about the laws about not teaching Torah to a non-Jew. I don't believe that is what I am doing when I explain a Torah concept. I will consult with my Rabbi to determine if I am doing anything wrong.
PS: Should I have simply suggested that he investigate the Noachide covenant?
http://lazerbrody.typepad.com/lazer_beams/2006/08/the_garden_of_e.html
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Watch Rabbi Brody talk about themes of Garden of Emuna here:
http://lazerbrody.typepad.com/lazer_beams/video_torah_english/
http://lazerbrody.typepad.com/lazer_beams/2008/11/garden-of-emuna-shiur-part-1.html
http://lazerbrody.typepad.com/lazer_beams/2008/11/garden-of-emuna-shiur-part-2.html
Watch Part 2 @ about 16:00-18:00 where he talks about spreading Hashem amongst all peoples of the world...
q_q_:
Teaching is helping to learn..
You say "I am not teaching to gentiles", and then you point them to a site that teaches it.
I suspect you are aware it is wrong, or why deny teaching it to them?
There are issues involved.. If they show interest, then referring them to the noachide laws is a great idea.
--- Quote from: muman ---PS: Should I have simply suggested that he investigate the Noachide covenant?
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yes, that's the thing to do.
muman613:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on December 19, 2008, 01:28:24 AM ---Teaching is helping to learn..
You say "I am not teaching to gentiles", and then you point them to a site that teaches it.
I suspect you are aware it is wrong, or why deny teaching it to them?
There are issues involved.. If they show interest, then referring them to the noachide laws is a great idea.
--- Quote from: muman ---PS: Should I have simply suggested that he investigate the Noachide covenant?
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yes, that's the thing to do.
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Honestly I dont think I am violating any Jewish law but I do respect your opinion {despite our many issues}. I will research it because I am concerned when any Jew is upset about what I explain according to my understanding. I do seek to do good and follow the law so if I am doing wrong I will attempt to cease. But at this time I still do not feel as if I am really going about trying to make anyone convert to Judaism. But our books and our wisdom is available to those who are interested.
I am sorry if you think I am doing something wrong.
PS: I just tried a google search for 'Jewish Wisdom' and the Aish site came up as the second highest search result after www.jewish-wisdom.com .
PPS: I did find a Ask the Rabbi question which supports your position : http://www.yeshiva.org.il/ask/eng/?id=1206
But this Rabbi is more lenient it seems: http://www.yoatzot.org/question.php?id=1270
--- Quote --- Teaching a non-Jew
I wanted to tell my non-Jewish sister some basic ideas of taharat ha mishpachah. A Rav told me not to do so, as we must not teach Torah to non-Jews. But if she would use the Internet, she could learn everything by herself.
If teaching detailed laws in the internet is allowed, why may I not teach only basic ideas personally?
Dear questioner,
Thank you for your question.
The custom is that only detailed and formal instruction is prohibited when teaching a non-Jew. You may relay some general and broad concepts that are illuminating regarding Judaism's attitude to the couple relationship. It is true that she may turn to the internet and learn some details on site, but that is her decision and one that cannot be controlled.
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{I just realized this question is not answered by a Rav, instead by Yoetzet}
I guess I will have to ask my Rabbi what his opinion is and trust in his opinion.
I am listening to this Shuir entitled 'Teaching Torah to Non-Jews' @ http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/722695/Rabbi_Hanan_Balk/Teaching_Torah_to_Non-Jews
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