"Pray Obama Fails"

[Xoce]

This article is written for right-wing Christians by Joseph Farah, but/and I think all JTFers will appreciate its message.  Chaim said that he is praying for America, but certainly not for B.O aka B.Hussein Obama.

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86469

Pray Obama fails
Posted: January 19, 2009
1:00 am Eastern

Many American Christians believe, as an article of faith, that we are to pray for the success of our leaders.

It has become a sort of conventional wisdom among soft-minded believers. The biblical proof-text for this misguided way of thinking is Romans 13:1-4:

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

"For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

What could be more clear-cut? At face value, it would seem the Bible is telling us government is a God-ordained good and that we are not to resist its terrors.

Many a coward has been bolstered in his conviction against challenging tyranny by not reading too deeply into the Scriptures. Yet, nowhere does the Bible ever suggest evil rulers are to be obeyed. When the rule of men conflicts with the commands of God, the Bible leaves no doubt about where we should stand.

That's why I do not hesitate today in calling on g-dly Americans to pray that Barack Hussein Obama fail in his efforts to change our country from one anchored on self-governance and constitutional republicanism to one based on the raw and unlimited power of the central state.

It would be folly to pray for his success in such an evil campaign.
          

I want Obama to fail because his agenda is 100 percent at odds with G_d's. Pretending it is not simply makes a mockery of G_d's straightforward Commandments.

So you will not see me joining in the ritual of affirming Obama and his mission in public or private prayer this week – or any other week.

Instead, I uphold the words of Jesus in Matthew 15:14: "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." And I take warning from Isaiah 9:16: "For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed."

And please don't tell me about "rendering unto Caesar."

It's important to consider the circumstances and the audience behind Jesus' instructions to "render unto Caesar." The Sadducees were attempting to trap Jesus into advocating open contempt for Caesar. He recognized their wicked and hypocritical little game and answered them with a totally truthful response that astonished everyone.

But think about it. There are two components to Jesus' words. We are to "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's," but we are also to "render unto God the things that are God's." Well, everything ultimately belongs to God. But, most of all, this injunction by Jesus instructs us that government laws cannot trump God's laws – ever.

If government commands you to do evil, as a Christian you must resist. There is no alternative. Citing the "render unto Caesar" line is an apologetic for accountability to God – nothing more, nothing less.

Furthermore, it needs to be pointed out that in America we don't have a Caesar. Never have, never will. You see, our system of government is called a free republic, and it is based on the concept of constitutional self-government. We have no "rulers" in America – except ourselves and our God. We believe in the rule of law, not the rule of men.

This is an important distinction, not a semantic one.

Nowhere in the Bible does it teach us to obey evil rulers. Nowhere.

This is a time for principled biblical resistance, not phony Christian appeasement.

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[Debbie Shafer]

I am torn about this decision.  If Obama does not succeed, does the US fail?  What will life be like?

But if we become a socialist nation, we have lost anyway.   I see racism disappearing, and say to Islam, if the United States can put aside their anti -semetism, and vote for a black candidate, then Islam can accept other peoples religions, and acknowledge Israel's right to defend herself and live in peace.

I agree though, the Media is over doing every detail about the Inauguration.  I think the Porta Potty explosion is too too Much!  Look what all this is costing!

[briann]

I am torn about this decision.  If Obama does not succeed, does the US fail?  What will life be like?

But if we become a socialist nation, we have lost anyway.   I see racism disappearing, and say to Islam, if the United States can put aside their anti -semetism, and vote for a black candidate, then Islam can accept other peoples religions, and acknowledge Israel's right to defend herself and live in peace.

I agree though, the Media is over doing every detail about the Inauguration.  I think the Porta Potty explosion is too too Much!  Look what all this is costing!

THis is about long-term survival.  For America, Israel, the west, and Judeo-Christian values to succeed.. he MUST fail.  Think about his potentail justice appointees.  THink about Iran. etc etc

[SavetheWest]

I am torn about this decision.  If Obama does not succeed, does the US fail?  What will life be like?

But if we become a socialist nation, we have lost anyway.   I see racism disappearing, and say to Islam, if the United States can put aside their anti -semetism, and vote for a black candidate, then Islam can accept other peoples religions, and acknowledge Israel's right to defend herself and live in peace.

I agree though, the Media is over doing every detail about the Inauguration.  I think the Porta Potty explosion is too too Much!  Look what all this is costing!

If there's an evil entity ruling over the USA, then you have every right to pray against it.  If he fails, America will be like an alcoholic that is hitting bottom; Ameirca will have to have its head in the mud for it to see what it needs to do to free itself and actually see a future.  Praying or not, Obama will fail, you may just not hear about it. 

[AsheDina]

I dont care WHO its written by- OBAMA IS AN ANIMAL INVADER- NO PRAYERS!!!~!!

[JewishAmericanPatriot]

I daven every day for Obama to fail. I feel it is my duty as a Jew and as an American to do so, because he is an impostor and usurper!

If he were legitimate, then perhaps that might be wrong to pray for his downfall. But because he is an impostor and a usurper, we MUST pray for his downfall, and work for it, too!

One way to prevent his success is to take all our money out of this economy. I already closed out all my bank accounts, thereby taking well over 200K out of this economy! I know a LOT of people doing the same thing, many with much more money than I have.

I also shut off all luxuries such as cable TV. A lot of people will suffer but in the LONG run we will prevent his success.

REMEMBER: iF HE SUCCEEDS, THEY WILL RE-ELECT HIM!

[briann]

One way to prevent his success is to take all our money out of this economy. I already closed out all my bank accounts, thereby taking well over 200K out of this economy! I know a LOT of people doing the same thing, many with much more money than I have.

YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!

We MUST MUST MUST spread the word.... TAKE YOUR MONEY OUT OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NOW!!!!

NOW IS THE TIME!!!

TAKE YOUR MONEY OUT OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NOW!!!!

[SavetheWest]

I daven every day for Obama to fail. I feel it is my duty as a Jew and as an American to do so, because he is an impostor and usurper!

If he were legitimate, then perhaps that might be wrong to pray for his downfall. But because he is an impostor and a usurper, we MUST pray for his downfall, and work for it, too!

One way to prevent his success is to take all our money out of this economy. I already closed out all my bank accounts, thereby taking well over 200K out of this economy! I know a LOT of people doing the same thing, many with much more money than I have.

I also shut off all luxuries such as cable TV. A lot of people will suffer but in the LONG run we will prevent his success.

REMEMBER: iF HE SUCCEEDS, THEY WILL RE-ELECT HIM!

Wow!  You are my hero!!! 

You guys helped the drop in the market today!  The media tried so hard to cover that up.  Unfortunately I have to wait until the market goes a bit up to recover my $ and rest assured, as soon as I can I'm selling everything.  It's not much but if we all cancel cable, do not go to movies, they will never be able to get the funds for their evil agendas.

[briann]

I daven every day for Obama to fail. I feel it is my duty as a Jew and as an American to do so, because he is an impostor and usurper!

If he were legitimate, then perhaps that might be wrong to pray for his downfall. But because he is an impostor and a usurper, we MUST pray for his downfall, and work for it, too!

One way to prevent his success is to take all our money out of this economy. I already closed out all my bank accounts, thereby taking well over 200K out of this economy! I know a LOT of people doing the same thing, many with much more money than I have.

I also shut off all luxuries such as cable TV. A lot of people will suffer but in the LONG run we will prevent his success.

REMEMBER: iF HE SUCCEEDS, THEY WILL RE-ELECT HIM!

Wow!  You are my hero!!! 

You guys helped the drop in the market today!  The media tried so hard to cover that up.  Unfortunately I have to wait until the market goes a bit up to recover my $ and rest assured, as soon as I can I'm selling everything.  It's not much but if we all cancel cable, do not go to movies, they will never be able to get the funds for their evil agendas.

Hmmmm. Im just guessing... but there might be a bit of a bump... maybe by mid Feb... it will get close to 9000.. but thats just a guess.

The MORE important thing is to pull your money OUT OF THE BANKS!!!!  Believe it or not.. you can do more damage that way... and protect yourself better. Consider temporarily putting it in a Chinese fund, like PGJ which is well diversified with a low expense ratio).  Again... just temporarily.

Even putting your money under your mattress would be a better option than the banks right now.... as banks are offering near zero interest rates ( unless you purchase a CD, which you expose yourself to more risk, and will find it harder to withdraw if there is a bank panic)

[IsraelForever]

Right now, I'm sitting here and thinking that it will be impossible for Obama to fail.  Why do I say this?  Because the brainwashed will never see any failure on his part.  The prejudice FOR Obama will blind them to even the most obvious failures.  Besides, I believe that all his failures will be blamed on President Bush (of course). 

And, by the way, of course he will fail. 

[IsraelForever]

I just saw this on the 'net and thought it very appropriate to this thread.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/01/21/nr.sanchez.slater.limbaugh.cnn

[muman613]

Well, my company is still doing well. Our stocks went up today about 5%. I will not take any money out of the system. I am doing all I can to make sure that this countries economy remains strong. I think those who are trying to destroy it are just America haters. I doubt you took 200K out of the bank and put it under your matress, really! What are you going to do? Live in a cave like Osama?

[cjd]

A little money under the mattress might be ok however if the situation gets so bad that banks start going down at a rate that the FDIC could not sustain I think cash itself would quickly become worthless. A major run on the banks would very likely cause the entire economy to collapse. Most banks are still offering 2 or 3% for money market accounts with a decent balance.  While its good to have some cash around for a short term problem having a great deal of cash in the house is really not a good policy. Be sure your covered by the FDIC rules on all your accounts keep enough cash around to keep food on the table lights burning and the rent paid for a month or two if you can. Gold is up so high now trying to use it as a hedge could end up being very volatile. While I don't want to see the successor succeed in his agenda I would like to see some stability in the banking industry since many older folks are really getting pounded with their retirement income. Even younger folks who have done everything right have their dreams put on hold because of this sub prime mess. 

[IsraelForever]

I'm wondering how long the dollar (as we now know it) will even last.  I'm not an expert on this stuff, but, if I recall correctly, you just can't start printing billions and trillions of dollars and start giving it out without serious consequences to your money system.  Is this correct?

[cjd]

I'm wondering how long the dollar (as we now know it) will even last.  I'm not an expert on this stuff, but, if I recall correctly, you just can't start printing billions and trillions of dollars and start giving it out without serious consequences to your money system.  Is this correct?

More dollars = less value per dollar. Money is only as good as people think it is. In a good economy you could have a great deal of money floating around and the economy would be able to sustain it. When people start loosing confidence in the money supply to much money floating around could be a real problem. In my opinion we are very close to that situation  now. We have got to a point where its now a tight wire act. Remove to much money from the system and cause a depression or leave to much in and cause a bad case of inflation. The government right now has to proceed with caution and not do anything that will cause people to question the money supply any more then they already do and cause panic.

[JewishAmericanPatriot]

Well, my company is still doing well. Our stocks went up today about 5%. I will not take any money out of the system. I am doing all I can to make sure that this countries economy remains strong. I think those who are trying to destroy it are just America haters. I doubt you took 200K out of the bank and put it under your matress, really! What are you going to do? Live in a cave like Osama?

Not under my mattress. In a safe, a very fire-proof safe in my home.