Author Topic: Hindu nationalist leader issues excellent statement on Israel and Pakistan (Read 2885 times)

Chaim Ben Pesach · « **on:** January 21, 2009, 01:40:50 PM »

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Praveen Togadia from the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) issued an excellent statement supporting Israel, and criticizing the leftwing Indian government's pro-Arab, anti-Israel position.

In addition, VHP called for the elimination of the artificial Muslim terrorist state of Pakistan. If Hindu India took over all of Pakistan, this would be a much safer world. Pakistan has nuclear weapons, and Pakistan is the nation that provided the centrifuges to Muslim terrorist Iran - centrifuges that are bringing Iran very close to building nuclear bombs, G-d forbid.

This Hindu nationalist movement is taking positions that would greatly benefit the United States, Europe, Israel and the whole non-Muslim world.

http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/482492/Politics/6/20/6

mord · « **Reply #1 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:43:01 PM »

Thats a excellent idea

Muck DeFuslims · « **Reply #2 on:** January 21, 2009, 02:10:21 PM »

" India should go for an all out war against Pakistan, an Islamic, jihadi terrorist state, the survival of which has become a threat for the entire world,"VHP's international secretary general Praveen Togadia told media here on the sidelines of a function organised by the saffron outfit.

"It may be done with the help of powers like Israel and Europe and the aim should be the extinction of the Pakistani state itself, whatever may be the cost in terms of expenditure and loss of human lives,"he added.

Wow. Talk about being politically incorrect and blunt.

Don't know anything about this guy or the VHP, but he sure doesn't mince words.

May Hindu tanks roll into an irradiated Karachi soon.

syyuge · « **Reply #3 on:** January 21, 2009, 03:12:20 PM »

He is correct. Papistan666 is the wicked and wretched mother of the Global Islamic Jihadi Terrorism. As a measure of recourse of natural reorientation, Papistan666 should be abolished and reinstated completely back to India. That is a big step towards demolishing Islamic Jihadi Terrorism from the face of the earth. Obviously it may take a little of time, but it is certain.

Ulli · « **Reply #4 on:** January 21, 2009, 03:22:40 PM »

Imo it is time for our global counterstrike.

I know we all have theological differences. But we are all sane people too and we can cooperate with each other in order to stay alive.

The Muslims and their leftists and Nazi menials like David Duke, Lauren Booth and the German NPD-Nazis that travelled to Teheran and Gaza and bowed down to the Muzz and offered him collobaration are our main problem.

We should get rid of them in our own vital interest and our freedom.

I like the new developments and I appreciate our new allies.

We can build a positive and righteous Internationale.

Long live our religious, economical and personal freedom!

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #5 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:11:00 AM »

Thank You Chaim for supporting the views!

SavetheWest · « **Reply #6 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:39:24 AM »

This is such good news. Perhaps Indians are getting sick of their leaders acting like scared children in front of the Pakistani murderers. India and the world cannot afford a Pakistan with nuclear weapons, especially if they overthrow the prime minister. It seems like it will only be a matter of time until Al Qaeda runs Pakistan. Waiting for an Al Qaeda run nuclear country to take hold with Obama in power is madness. They will strike the West and India within months if this happens.

We need a global friendship where like minded Jews, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists and all non Muslim righteous people in between, believe in righteousness, economic and political freedom, morality and most importantly, a movement that encourages and respects national sovereignty against a new world Muslim socialist agenda.

SavetheWest · « **Reply #7 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:43:19 AM »

It's funny how much Afghanistan hates Pakistan where they are willing to work with India and the US to get at them.

Masha · « **Reply #8 on:** January 22, 2009, 05:23:30 AM »

Quote from: Chaim Ben Pesach on January 21, 2009, 01:40:50 PM

Praveen Togadia from the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) issued an excellent statement supporting Israel, and criticizing the leftwing Indian government's pro-Arab, anti-Israel position.

This is what I don't get. Why does the Indian leftwinf government support Islam and is pro-Arab? This just doesn't make sense to me. It does sort of make sense that Western leftist are pro-Arab/anti-Israel. But it doesn't make sense that leftist Indians should have the same position. After all, they are not the ones with "white guilt." They have no historical bone to pick with Jews, so to speak. They have every reason to be anti-Arab and Jew-neutral. And yet they are also on the anti-Zionist wagon. This only confirms my underlying intuition that anti-Zionism/anti-semitism is a form of Satanism. Whomever Satan possesses, he turns into an anti-semite. This is a perfect litmus test.

As for Indian nationalists, this again confirms that, in most cases, a nationalist will find common language with another nationalist.

syyuge · « **Reply #9 on:** January 22, 2009, 10:29:44 AM »

Leftists everywhere on global basis are more or less guided by the terms of EuroCommunism. So there is not much to differentiate between the leftists of East and West. Only a bit of difference may be due to the cultural variations.

I wish that the Indian leftists shall keep on supporting the muslamics and the arabs. Whomsoever they support invariably goes to the dogs.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #10 on:** January 22, 2009, 02:47:06 PM »

One of the video of Praveen Togadia in a rally held in J&K which is more than 75% Muslim majority state.

I just did its subtitle, thinking of promoting it on flix.co.il , but cant understand Hebrew!
and rate it if one can!

Fortis · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2009, 03:40:05 PM »

Is it not possible to promote secular nationalism in Pakistan and for it to be successful?

I thought that this is what we, in the West, were trying to do.

Would it ever be possible for Pakistani muslims to become Hindus like their ancestors were?

I think that the answer to that question is 'no', and is this not a terrible shame?

Sentinel For Truth · « **Reply #12 on:** January 22, 2009, 03:43:04 PM »

If I was in that part of the world, I'd invest in potassium iodide futures.

Seriously though, the global economic depression combined with coming food and water shortages will bring all of this to a head certainly within our lifetimes.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:47:24 AM »

i have uploaded it to flix
http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=3048804
maybe Shlomo can consider it for using that on jtf homepage

syyuge · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:41:47 AM »

Excellent...

GoIsraelGo! · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:44:42 AM »

Quote from: Muck DeFuslims on January 21, 2009, 02:10:21 PM

" India should go for an all out war against Pakistan, an Islamic, jihadi terrorist state, the survival of which has become a threat for the entire world,"VHP's international secretary general Praveen Togadia told media here on the sidelines of a function organised by the saffron outfit.

"It may be done with the help of powers like Israel and Europe and the aim should be the extinction of the Pakistani state itself, whatever may be the cost in terms of expenditure and loss of human lives,"he added.

Wow. Talk about being politically incorrect and blunt.

Don't know anything about this guy or the VHP, but he sure doesn't mince words.

May Hindu tanks roll into an irradiated Karachi soon.

G-d willing for India to take over pakistan...the terrorist state.

^5 to your post! Shalom - Dox

syyuge · « **Reply #16 on:** January 25, 2009, 01:10:23 AM »

G_d bless the warriors against global muslamic jihadi terrorism.

q_q_ · « **Reply #17 on:** January 25, 2009, 01:52:01 AM »

Quote from: Fortis on January 22, 2009, 03:40:05 PM

Is it not possible to promote secular nationalism in Pakistan and for it to be successful?

I thought that this is what we, in the West, were trying to do.

Would it ever be possible for Pakistani muslims to become Hindus like their ancestors were?

I think that the answer to that question is 'no', and is this not a terrible shame?

getting a country of people to leave islam is impossible..

every muslim is like a muslim missionary.

Go to the east end of london. If you mention religion to a muslim, then he'll try to convert you. Infact, if you talk for any length of time, he'll try. He'll say we also believe in the prophets e.t.c. then he'll try to add mohammed.. They are told in the Quran how to sell it to jews and christians, literally "say this to the jews and the christians". And they hate atheists.. They are all very strong in their belief that G-d exists and think atheists are just denying the obvious. And they will never leave islam because the punishment is death.. and they feel they'd deserve death if they left.. British ones see a weak christianity in Britain and it strengthens their belief in the superiority of islam. As I said, Every muslim is a missionary. Try speaking to them.. you'll see how crazy your idea is.
If the west can't even wage war against a weaker enemy, they can't even understand them, they have no chance converting them out of their religion!

Really, being a religious jew, when I hear on the radio or television, discussions about religion.. I see that the people discussing it have the intellectual understanding of small children. Muslims can play everybody for fools.

It would be good if some ex muslims made tv programs to get muslims to leave islam, and broadcasted them.. Though I don't think it would help that much..

Sometimes people join a false religion for some emotional reason, and nothing gets them out except a psychiatrist, and even there they'd have to admit they have a problem. Many of them are not honest anyway..

Your idea is just crazy.. impossible.

The west isn't trying to secularize muslims.. they are trying to spread democracy.. with disasterous consequences.. Look at Gaza, when they had democracy there, they voted Hamas. I knew that would happen..

chamish said something funny about democracy in the arab world.. somethlikg like... once they have their first democratic election, that's their last!

דוד בן זאב אריה · « **Reply #18 on:** January 25, 2009, 03:22:01 AM »

India is a Reichous counrty and we need to support them. If they were to take out Pakistain Hussein Obama may not support it but I know Israel would and so would I they are our friends and we need to be vocal about it.

AussieJTFer · « **Reply #19 on:** January 25, 2009, 04:56:11 AM »

Only India and Israel will save the planet from the islamic plague. It is time to unite and crush this evil once and for all. I would love to see Israel and India share a border somewhere in the middle of where Iran is today.

Sentinel For Truth · « **Reply #20 on:** January 25, 2009, 05:41:24 AM »

God is not protecting the United States, any European country or any Asiatic country. He is protecting Israel alone to show all of humanity that he lives up to his promises.

SavetheWest · « **Reply #21 on:** January 25, 2009, 05:59:59 AM »

Quote from: q_q_ on January 25, 2009, 01:52:01 AM

Quote from: Fortis on January 22, 2009, 03:40:05 PM
Is it not possible to promote secular nationalism in Pakistan and for it to be successful?

I thought that this is what we, in the West, were trying to do.

Would it ever be possible for Pakistani muslims to become Hindus like their ancestors were?

I think that the answer to that question is 'no', and is this not a terrible shame?

getting a country of people to leave islam is impossible..

every muslim is like a muslim missionary.

Go to the east end of london. If you mention religion to a muslim, then he'll try to convert you. Infact, if you talk for any length of time, he'll try. He'll say we also believe in the prophets e.t.c. then he'll try to add mohammed.. They are told in the Quran how to sell it to jews and christians, literally "say this to the jews and the christians". And they hate atheists.. They are all very strong in their belief that G-d exists and think atheists are just denying the obvious. And they will never leave islam because the punishment is death.. and they feel they'd deserve death if they left.. British ones see a weak christianity in Britain and it strengthens their belief in the superiority of islam. As I said, Every muslim is a missionary. Try speaking to them.. you'll see how crazy your idea is.
If the west can't even wage war against a weaker enemy, they can't even understand them, they have no chance converting them out of their religion!

Really, being a religious jew, when I hear on the radio or television, discussions about religion.. I see that the people discussing it have the intellectual understanding of small children. Muslims can play everybody for fools.

It would be good if some ex muslims made tv programs to get muslims to leave islam, and broadcasted them.. Though I don't think it would help that much..

Sometimes people join a false religion for some emotional reason, and nothing gets them out except a psychiatrist, and even there they'd have to admit they have a problem. Many of them are not honest anyway..

Your idea is just crazy.. impossible.

The west isn't trying to secularize muslims.. they are trying to spread democracy.. with disasterous consequences.. Look at Gaza, when they had democracy there, they voted Hamas. I knew that would happen..

chamish said something funny about democracy in the arab world.. somethlikg like... once they have their first democratic election, that's their last!

So many good points here. You are correct that every single Muslim has a conversion speech at the ready. Even if .001 of people fall for it, it's a bad thing. They are like the Amway corporation. I don't know if you have them in Britain but they are a pyramid scheme that is like a cult. You'll meet one of them and they'll invite you to their house to discuss things. They drive you to the meeting place so it's harder to get out of there. The Muslims love talking about Jesus and Moses. One Muslim I worked with told me that one day I might not have a choice in America and may be killed as an unbeliever because he revealed Islam to me and I said no thanks.

syyuge · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2009, 06:49:33 AM »

Everything is with Hashem and his plans for future. It can be expected that the remnant survivors at Papistan666 may willingly go back to the Arab and Somali. For the few of them who stubbornly decide to stay at undivided India may adopt to any of the Indian religion for they all are part of the dharma, otherwise they may be free to adopt any other religion and remain with the national mainstream.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #23 on:** January 25, 2009, 07:44:28 AM »

Quote from: AussieJTFer on January 25, 2009, 04:56:11 AM

Only India and Israel will save the planet from the islamic plague. It is time to unite and crush this evil once and for all. I would love to see Israel and India share a border somewhere in the middle of where Iran is today.

reminds me of the following statement of Father of Hindu Nationalism - Savarkar given in the year 1956
"bear in mind if tomorrow there breaks out a war between Pakistan and Bharat almost all Muslims will be arrayed on the side of Pakistan in opposition to us and their enemy Israel will be our only friend. Therefore I say that Bharat should give unequivocal recognition to Israel. If we desire to safeguard the independence of Bharat we should be militarily strong"

syyuge · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2009, 09:43:19 AM »

Quote from: Hindu Zionist on January 25, 2009, 07:44:28 AM

Quote from: AussieJTFer on January 25, 2009, 04:56:11 AM
Only India and Israel will save the planet from the islamic plague. It is time to unite and crush this evil once and for all. I would love to see Israel and India share a border somewhere in the middle of where Iran is today.
reminds me of the following statement of Father of Hindu Nationalism - Savarkar given in the year 1956
"bear in mind if tomorrow there breaks out a war between Pakistan and Bharat almost all Muslims will be arrayed on the side of Pakistan in opposition to us and their enemy Israel will be our only friend. Therefore I say that Bharat should give unequivocal recognition to Israel. If we desire to safeguard the independence of Bharat we should be militarily strong"

Actually the Parsi,s (Zoroastrians) albeit remaining now in very small numbers due to long persecution by Muslamics shall be the real owners of Central Iran including Tehran.

So the Jewish shall include only Western Iran and Indian conglomerate shall include only Eastern Iran, with the due presence of a central Parsi strip.