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Can someone please explain this to me.
q_q_:
--- Quote from: AsheDina on January 29, 2009, 10:57:19 AM ---
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--- Quote from: AsheDina on January 29, 2009, 08:18:40 AM ---<snip>
q_q, Dear, dont you think that we SHOULD look into these things? I do, but I must confess that I have always been a person that wants to protect people, so obviously I believe the ONLY place I can look for the necessary information is Torah and the Tanach, there is NO other source BUT the word of G-d.
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In the sense that all Torah is holy, yes.. But I don't think it's of practical use..
There are these prophecies of negative things, which come from our sin, and can be avoided - not by finding some cunning way to avoid them - but by following G-d. Or lessened by following G-d. Now the situation has hit us, fighting yishmael, we can see what we are up against.. We know enough to even be cunning in dealing with our silly enemy. But there is nothing of practical use in that prophecy to tell us anything we don't already know about how to deal with it, the message is to follow G-d.
And the obvious thing is to fight those that come to kill us, which judaism demands (and doing that is common sense anyway).
It helps to know about Esau, and Yishmael.. Though that's talked about early on in tenach , in Genesis. And we know that really well. And we've experienced both.
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Lately I have been ALL over the Tanach and Torah. ALL of the answer are in there. I dont know why more people dont read it. Maybe I shouldnt say that, but it really does seen that Christians in USA have totally forsaken the "O.T." which is strikingly similar, (things taken out) to Torah. Proverbs, for ie.. it has ways to deal with people. WITHOUT law- which is Torah, in a nation like America, we are DOOMED. My nation, q_q, is FORSAKING its Judao roots of law, its sad.
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I think you'll find that diaspora jewry are less familiar with the prophets and writings portion of tenach.
I think christians are often very familiar with the prophets.. They don't have as much to learn and do as jews do.
but in israel, where people are naturally completely fluent in hebrew without any effort, from a young age, there may be more familiarity.
AsheDina:
Why Christians?? All the Christians I meet, they think the Torah and Tenach INVALID.
q_q_:
--- Quote from: AsheDina on January 29, 2009, 01:27:11 PM ---Why Christians?? All the Christians I meet, they think the Torah and Tenach INVALID.
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evangelical christians that love israel .. I've even heard a political one, come out with the line that when you bless Israel you will be blessed!
there are loads of israel loving christians.. christian zionists, the christian right.
The ones here are very biblical.. they believe the Tanach.. and unless my memory is failing me.. Tanach=tenach.
They don't believe in following the laws.. but they believe G-d promising Abraham Isaac and Jacob the land of israel, and the jews return to the land.. and so on..
The christians here take these Tanach things seriously.. and there are loads of christians here.
AsheDina:
I believe the Tenach a SERIOUS book. Daniel is my #1 right now.
muman613:
--- Quote from: AsheDina on January 29, 2009, 02:02:53 PM ---I believe the Tenach a SERIOUS book. Daniel is my #1 right now.
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AisheDina,
I dont want to correct you for any reason other than for your own education.
Tenak is an acronym for Torah, Naviim, and Ketuvah which are the 5 books of Moses, the Prophets, and the other writings.
You sound redundant when you say Torah and Tenakh as if they are separate entities. I think you meant Tanak and Talmud which would encompass both the Written and the Oral Torah. Of course there is the more general term Torah which in context means all of Jewish teachings.
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